Seeing as most OWC fans don't appear to understand the CAS judgement or the FIFA rules of eligibility, even if he was able, Gerry would only confuse matters if he raised the debate above partisan, blind emotive level.
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Seeing as most OWC fans don't appear to understand the CAS judgement or the FIFA rules of eligibility, even if he was able, Gerry would only confuse matters if he raised the debate above partisan, blind emotive level.
Gerry is doing a great job so farQuote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
Its a bit like groundhog day, the preceeding decisions clarifications appear not to have registered or been understood, 'ignoring their own regulations' priceless
Aye, it's called 'denial'.
;)
As much as I'd love to, I'll have to let Gerry off the hook this time around as I have minimal-to-no internet access at the minute and it'll remain that way for another fortnight or so.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe_denilson
I just can't understand how poorly informed he is though. I mean, surely someone at the IFA has read the Kearns judgment and should be able to point out where he's going wrong.
I wouldn't be so sure DI.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
Reading it and understanding it are two different things.
My guess would be that certain senior figures at the IFA are still of the belief that FIFA are NOT upholding their own rules.
Just read that Swansea manager Brenadon Rodgers' son Anton has been playing for the Republic
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/nort...d/15016954.stmQuote:
As it stands, Rodgers' son Anton has declared for the Republic of Ireland, but his father says "that is not something that can't be rectified".
"I spoke with Gerry Armstrong recently as I'm a big advocate of Northern Ireland.
"I want to see Northern Ireland boys play for Northern Ireland and the reason my son is playing for the Republic is simple - they asked him while he was never asked to play for Northern Ireland.
Anton was born in Reading so I'm not sure he's a "Northern Ireland boy" but is apparently relatively highly rated for Brighton where he plays in the reserves (he is only 18)
Well, it looks like he's going to be press ganged into a decision to fulfil his oul lads dream of managing NI.Quote:
Originally Posted by theworm2345
He's all for NI lads playing for NI...well it's a pity he didnt apply that to his son when the FAI asked him to play for us.
The likes of him and Armstrong really make themselves look like tossers when they complain about lads declaring for us even though it's their birthright.
Just seen on BBC that Rodgers is a cousin of Worthington
Why are these catholics calling it a country ...times have changed. two uncle toms
As it stands, Rodgers' son Anton has declared for the Republic of Ireland, but his father says "that is not something that can't be rectified".
………."I've been speaking to Gerry and I think he's planning to go to Brighton to speak to him."
When the IFA approach players who have already declared for the FAI, it's called speaking to the player.
When/if the FAI do it, it's called poaching/kidnapping/an act of sectarian hatred/ part of a conspiracy plot to annihilate the loyalist base of the wee statelet.
Hands off our kids, Brendan Rodgers!
Or as per Gerry's official title, 'mentoring'.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
I trust geologists everywhere have been informed that the high ground ain't what it used to be.
Don't you mean, er, 'grooming' ??
:eek:
Brendan's Grandmother and Nigel's mother were sisters.Quote:
Originally Posted by greendeiseboy
So Gerry has "been in contact" with Anton Rogers about switching from the FAI to the IFA.
"Armstrong is employed by the IFA to try and stop their young players following in the footsteps of Darron Gibson, James McClean and Shane Duffy by linking up with the Republic."
Rogers, despite never playing for the IFA, is considered to belong to them. Theirs, y'hear?!
And considering the lenghts the IFA have gone to try and stop this they still think it's perfectly in order to make direct contact with our players to get them to declare for NI.Quote:
Originally Posted by Predator
All this despite there being no evidence that the FAI have ever directly approached an NI player to declare for us.
Despite the IFA taking no interest in him whatsoever until he turned out for us!Quote:
Originally Posted by Predator
Young Rogers is within his rights to change to the IFA team under FIFA rules, so if that's his choice its fine by me.
The hypocrisy of Armstrong and the IFA is another issue.
Armstrong has now opened up the whole issue by approaching Irish players and the FAI should now be contacting, recruiting and upping their pursuit of all players in the North. Invitations to training camps, trips to the Aviva, the whole gambit should be used to strengthen and increase the player base of our underage sides.
There is certainly no longer a need for players to contact the FAI first, seeking inclusion in our sides. Time for the FAI to openly go after any player in the North who will benefit our side.
I disagree CDG, the FAI door is always open, players are in no doubt they can play for us (unless they have played competatively for soembody else of course)I am happy to leave it at that. nothing stopping a player/parent picking up a phoneQuote:
Originally Posted by co. down green
TheIFA hypocrisy is there for all to see
Except the OWC.
We better be on the look out for the men draped in IFA attire, trying to remain inconspicuous as they get their nets ready, at our underage games in future. This is the end of football in Ireland.Quote:
Originally Posted by boovidge
Didn't know much about Brendan Rodgers so I've just had a look on his wiki. Retired at 20, no mention of his international appearances. I then clicked on the wiki page for his birthtown and on it, it states unsourced that he was a 'Republic' schoolboy! So I googled "Brendan Rodgers Republic schoolboy" and there are several articles that describe him as such.
However I'll take the man's word as the most authoritative source:
"I was brought up playing for Northern Ireland schoolboys and youth international games. We would play against the likes of France and Spain and Germany and always on the defensive. It was all about stopping them, not what we could do. I wanted to be in control. That was when the seed for my ideas was planted."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...uaranteed.html
However, the BT has an article from two weeks ago on the passing of Brendan's father and they describe him as:
"Losing both of his parents within a year of each other will come as a heavy blow to the former Republic of Ireland schoolboy international."
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...-16048414.html
I presume they're getting confused because he went to Catholic school and his son has played for an Ireland youth team. It's easy to see why they can't get their head around eligibility rules when they're so confused about what teams players have represented!
Young 15 year old Letterkenny native Dale Gorman has declared for the Northern Irish under 16 team.
His father Anthony Gorman played for the Republic of Ireland Youth team for a couple of years and played most of his football in the Irish League.
Dale Gorman was born in Derry but has lived in Letterkenny all his life. He has played for Donegal Schoolboys at the Kennedy Cup, Galway Cup & Foyle cup at different age groups.
I wish him the best. At the end of he day its a great opportunity/experience for the young lad. I see on the IFA website that he played in the 2 games for the Northern Irish under 16's in Finland last week.
It appears that the Republic coaches thought he was abit on the small side. I would certainly have question marks over the emerging talent programmes. Are we just looking to bring through 6 foot plus lads. Strange.
http://www.irishfa.com/news/item/677...ph-in-finland/
The BT describe Armstrong's mandate as being to "stop their young players following in the footsteps of Darron Gibson, James McClean and Shane Duffy by linking up with the Republic", then the opposite to his role would be bringing young Republic players to play with the North (following in the footsteps of Alex Bruce).
Rodgers has unintentionally dropped Armstrong in it, although I would suspect that Rodgers had given Armstrong permission to speak to his son prior to this.
It's also worth considering whether Anton Rodgers has taken a Shane Ferguson-type outlook in relation to this matter. Aside from whatever aspirations of playing for Northern Ireland that Brendan and Anton may hold, it's worth bearing in mind that Anton was only on standby for the Irish U19 squad for the European Championships. Had Anton been in that squad and travelled to a major youth tournament, then maybe his head wouldn't be turned by the opportunity to play for Northern Ireland. Anton found himself behind Jeff Hendrick in the pecking order for this tournament and why wouldn't he expect himself to be behind someone like Hendrick for the forseeable future given Hendrick's recent progression in Championship football?
I'm not implying that Anton feels no ties with Northern Ireland, I'm merely saying that there are plenty more factors attributing to this possible U-turn.
Is Gorman attending school in Derry? U16 is a schoolboy team and I think it's the NISFA that run it.
He goes to school in Letterkenny, St Eunans College which has a pretty good record with All Ireland success.
Some of that squad would be at school in England and elsewhere so dont think its an issue. Id say you have to have a direct link to Northern Ireland, either be born in the North or have parent/grandparent with northern connections etc.
I think another boy in that squad Sean Mullen also lives in Donegal but attends school in Derry. I wouldnt know the criteria thats its fully based on.
Must be something about the name Gorman?Quote:
Originally Posted by cestlavie
:eek:
Seriously though, most modern professional soccer players in this part of the world are now over 6 ft, maybe down to 5ft 10, at a pinch, so no great surprise if short-asses get rejected out of hand.
:(
The best football player in the world is a short ass.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
Essien (United) and David Silva (Real Madrid) are two examples of players rejected by clubs for being too short.
George Best was once rejected by Glentoran for being too small (I kid you not).
Think at that age physical build shouldn't be an issue.
I'd agree, but just talking about the evidence I see before me even in 'lesser' football, where most shorties get insufficient opportunities, mainly because they're not perceived to be able to compete physically, regularly....
'Short-sighted', I know.
:rolleyes:
I see Shane Ferguson still didn't get called up the N.Ireland senior squad for the games against Italy & Estonia
Interesting article from Thomas P Walsh book twenty years of Irish Soccer published in 1941. The article reproduced in full below was written by JL Brennan former chairman of the FAI and former secretary of the league. Article was produced in a FIFA 1929 publication
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...7/SANY0822.jpg
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...7/SANY0837.jpg
Any chance you could try another scan of it as I can hardly read it? Thanks.
Unfortunately my scanner is broken and I took about 20 photos last night and they are the best. Happy to email the photos to you in you pm me your email address.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_Parker
The print in the book is also quite small so even reading the article from the book isn't easy on the eye.
Ta, but don't worry. I managed to blow it up and read.Quote:
Originally Posted by gspain
Hmm, waffle of 60 years ago isn't much different to the waffle of now...
Ferguson still not answer his phone to NI.
Take the hint there Nige.
Kids these days and their mobile telephones.
Very good Sulli.
Where did you lift it from? OWB?
No way it could have been real though.
Lafferty would never understand a word like 'impending'. Too many syllables...