FAI Junior Cup 2009/10

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Originally Posted by Longshanks

lads, didnt Westport lose a semi a fews years back but got the game replayed as the winners had played an ineligible player, they won the replay and went of to lift the cup. point being that if there is a bit of skullduggery or cute whoreism going on y'd better have all the i's dotted and t's crossed cos at this stage of the competition its not just on the pitch that games are won and lost. Now I'm not trying to stir but wasnt it a Limerick team who Westport found out, correct me if I'm wrong

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hate to be quoting meself, but......deja vu???

There's a awful lot of thanking goin on when people are not aware of the facts.why not just wait and see until the truth comes there will be an awful lot of people very surprised indeed:party:

Sure while I'm quoting meself.................'You'd have to wonder about the integrity of Junior football when you read these threads. Play suspended/ineligible players and if you get away with it well and good, if you dont its one of your rival clubs who 'ratted' you out and in that case its the 'ratting' thats worse than the cheating.'

Just as you sow you shall reap

serpico... what is the truth??? had a club in the St micks v Pike match an illegal player???(honest mistake or not) Was the objection that was then lodged also illegal????
2 simple questions.... if the answer to the second question is yes then the matter should be closed, winners advance.. if the answer to the second question is no and the answer to the first question is yes, then the team with the illegal player should be expelled...very simple....
not trying to pick on any club, just trying to have a conversation on the integrity of the competition..

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Originally Posted by leather

serpico... what is the truth??? had a club in the St micks v Pike match an illegal player???(honest mistake or not) Was the objection that was then lodged also illegal????
2 simple questions.... if the answer to the second question is yes then the matter should be closed, winners advance.. if the answer to the second question is no and the answer to the first question is yes, then the team with the illegal player should be expelled...very simple....
not trying to pick on any club, just trying to have a conversation on the integrity of the competition..

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As I've said in previous posts let's just wait until the final outcome and I'm sure people will find out exactly what happened instead of all this hearsay.

You mention hearsay, Serpico - that's a little ironic given that the Pike committee did not represent themselves at the Junior Council hearing but sent the LDMC in their stead. Maybe Micheal's should have sent TSDL officials to represent them?

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Originally Posted by leather

serpico... What is the truth??? Had a club in the st micks v pike match an illegal player???(honest mistake or not) was the objection that was then lodged also illegal????
2 simple questions.... If the answer to the second question is yes then the matter should be closed, winners advance.. If the answer to the second question is no and the answer to the first question is yes, then the team with the illegal player should be expelled...very simple....
Not trying to pick on any club, just trying to have a conversation on the integrity of the competition..

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to be honest leather no matter what people think or say this matter is strictly between pike,st micks and the fai and no one else needs to know the ins and outs only these parties.people are coming on here guessing and trying to find out whats going on when in fairness its a serious situation for both sides not to be discussing it on this forum.i know everyone has ther own views on it but as serpico said lets wait for the final outcome which could take awhile.

the truth and outcome in this matter is of great importance to all clubs that enter the FAI junior cup....if either one of the clubs or the fai are seen to be subverting , twisting or just disregarding the rules of the competition, then what is the point in having the competition in the first place.....

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Originally Posted by leather

the truth and outcome in this matter is of great importance to all clubs that enter the FAI junior cup....if either one of the clubs or the fai are seen to be subverting , twisting or just disregarding the rules of the competition, then what is the point in having the competition in the first place.....

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Leather it is none of your or your clubs business what is going on between pike and st michaels.write to the fai if you want to know what is goin on and see what they will tell you.

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Originally Posted by leather

the truth and outcome in this matter is of great importance to all clubs that enter the FAI junior cup....if either one of the clubs or the fai are seen to be subverting , twisting or just disregarding the rules of the competition, then what is the point in having the competition in the first place.....

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Well said. It is imperative that the integrity of the competition is upheld. It remains to be seen what bearing this latest episode will have on it.

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Originally Posted by the bandit

leather it is none of your or your clubs business what is going on between pike and st michaels.write to the fai if you want to know what is goin on and see what they will tell you.

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exactly my point bandit.well said.

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Originally Posted by redcardrory

i just checked rule 44 in the fai rule book and it looks like pike are safe and if an appeal goes in it goes to the domestics committee and it will be thrown out cos those players played in the summer season and regraded to amature satus for the begining of the winter season and they can not reg for thirty days after leaving pro-status so that means all ex loi players are free to play in this cup once regraded to amature.www.fai.ie/ policies and regulations(rule book)

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Red,

Could you post a link to the actual rule book? I can't find it anywhere on FAI website.

It was good to read back through this thread and see Connie had apologised for his ropey celebrations in Cooke Park (it was was the man, himself, who had posted). I think everyone accepts that people in football get over excited and impulsive when their team comes from two down to go ahead in a game. Similarly, most Saints people had no problem with Pike supporters running on to the pitch when the fourth goal went in. One issue, which was a cause for concern and will be a bigger one if a replay goes ahead, is that of Pike supporters sitting on top of the Michael's bench in Cooke Park. They were asked to move on the day and flatly refused. They were young looking fellas but by no means, kids/teens. Hopefully, common sense will prevail if a replay takes place and Pike officials will take steps to ensure this kind of nonsense does not reoccur.

Just to reiterate lads,this objection thing is no picnic for anybody,I'm trying my best to let you talk about it but I'll suspend anybody I think is messing up your avenue for discussing it.

There are enough sensible posts already here as proof that it can be done without getting personal about it.

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Originally Posted by the bandit

Leather it is none of your or your clubs business what is going on between pike and st michaels.write to the fai if you want to know what is goin on and see what they will tell you.

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well if thats the case maybe pike and st micks should set up there own thread for this,otherwise its a public forum and if leather or the man in the moon(providing he's got internet access) want to provide there opinion they are free to do so.
On another note firstly you had pike supporters on saying they had nothing to worry about,then when the "truth" came out it was the LDMC's fault and now no one from pike is commenting until the real truth comes out,its laughable,they were found in the wrong by the FAI knowingly or unknowingly doesn't come into it.What else can there be too it Serpico??

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Originally Posted by are you serious

why did the ldmc represent pike so?

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I think for the good of the competition everyone needs to know the ins and outs tbh

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Originally Posted by Damo

You mention hearsay, Serpico - that's a little ironic given that the Pike committee did not represent themselves at the Junior Council hearing but sent the LDMC in their stead. Maybe Micheal's should have sent TSDL officials to represent them?

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in all fairness your wrong here pike had 3 commitee members there sec,chaiman were def two of them

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Originally Posted by redcardrory

you should study the findings from the fai junior councill meeting with both clubs before you comment about something you know nothing about and any one on this thead from limerick and not supporting limerick teams should hang their heads in shame

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ah ya like i said nice to see pike supporting carew a few years back too!! short memories as i said before!why should i study the findings aren't they all on here sure!! or better still you know it all so tell me, and i'd actually prefer to support a fully legal team like say regional

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Originally Posted by mulla

I think for the good of the competition everyone needs to know the ins and outs tbh

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And I'm sure they will given time.the two clubs are the only people that know what is goin at the moment and as I have said on numurous occasions the outcome will be known soon enough.when you haven't got the facts you can only presume which is quite understandable.as for you damo go back to your sources.

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Originally Posted by leather

the truth and outcome in this matter is of great importance to all clubs that enter the FAI junior cup....if either one of the clubs or the fai are seen to be subverting , twisting or just disregarding the rules of the competition, then what is the point in having the competition in the first place.....

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leather i am sick of you bickering on,let pike,st micks get on with it will you,its none of your buisness your team are out now,another couple days and the grass will growing up in the boro and you can get on your lawnmower and worry about the things your employed to do up their........

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Originally Posted by serpico

And I'm sure they will given time.the two clubs are the only people that know what is goin at the moment and as I have said on numurous occasions the outcome will be known soon enough.when you haven't got the facts you can only presume which is quite understandable.as for you damo go back to your sources.

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well said serpico !!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by mulla

ah ya like i said nice to see pike supporting carew a few years back too!! short memories as i said before!why should i study the findings aren't they all on here sure!! or better still you know it all so tell me, and i'd actually prefer to support a fully legal team like say regional[/QUOTE
typical regional got park kicked out throw an objection,ye don't deserve to be where ye are in the fai and get the findings off the fai website or even better go down to the pike club tonight at 8.30 and ask for the sec and he'll show you the findings you well be surprised what you read if they let you read it

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i'm not a regional supporter,you said anyone not supporting a limerick team so i picked regional
don't have the time to be reading fai notes or sauntering up to the pike club,or the interest to be honest,just sick of the crap by lads backing pike or whatever other team ,as i said a while back i don't not support pike but if they were in the wrong they should be out,unfortunately since i didn't get the report i can only go on whats posted here like i'm sure the majority of lads do,except for those wit pleny of time on there hands!! and back to the limerick teams are there any of them of whats left follow the rules then?

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Originally Posted by redcardrory

i'm not a regional supporter,you said anyone not supporting a limerick team so i picked regional
don't have the time to be reading fai notes or sauntering up to the pike club,or the interest to be honest,just sick of the crap by lads backing pike or whatever other team ,as i said a while back i don't not support pike but if they were in the wrong they should be out,unfortunately since i didn't get the report i can only go on whats posted here like i'm sure the majority of lads do,except for those wit pleny of time on there hands!! and back to the limerick teams are there any of them of whats left follow the rules then?

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you starting to sound like bridge celtic lol

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Originally Posted by kev08

in all fairness your wrong here pike had 3 commitee members there sec,chaiman were def two of them

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Well, if that is genuinely the case, I hold my hands up - mea culpa! I had heard to the contrary. I will go back to those sources, Serpico!

fairview vs regional fai semi final,lads who do ye think will win this one,should be a good game........will regional have a full squad to choose from,heard they have a couple of injuries...

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Originally Posted by mulla

you starting to sound like bridge celtic lol

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ah sure somebody has to back him up:)

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Originally Posted by daisycutter

fairview vs regional fai semi final,lads who do ye think will win this one,should be a good game........will regional have a full squad to choose from,heard they have a couple of injuries...

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Regional for me, will be tight though

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Originally Posted by mulla

Regional for me, will be tight though

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i think the view will win this one as regional seem to fall this time every year,but saying that it will be tight,and what ever happens fair play to regional for coming this far,big things ahead for this club,imagine if they won it out right,that would be some story wouldnt it

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Originally Posted by Damo

Well, if that is genuinely the case, I hold my hands up - mea culpa! I had heard to the contrary. I will go back to those sources, Serpico!

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asked pike lad today ger smyth+mike blake were up there think chairman was there aswell not 100pc sure so damo your wrong here

Lads any clubs that have under 5s and under 6s that would be interested in a friendly could ye give me a pm thanks.

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Originally Posted by daisycutter

i think the view will win this one as regional seem to fall this time every year,but saying that it will be tight,and what ever happens fair play to regional for coming this far,big things ahead for this club,imagine if they won it out right,that would be some story wouldnt it

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We must remember that Regional had not the hardest path to the semi would Park have got this far i wonder......

good luck to the semi finalists

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Originally Posted by daisycutter

i think the view will win this one as regional seem to fall this time every year,but saying that it will be tight,and what ever happens fair play to regional for coming this far,big things ahead for this club,imagine if they won it out right,that would be some story wouldnt it

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Is the Regional v View semi final definitely going ahead next Saturday 03rd April?

If so what type of attendance figures does anyone reckon would attend?

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Originally Posted by are you serious

Sunday i think Alan, and i would say about 500

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It was originally set for Saturday 03rd April at 7.30pm in Jackman Park, has it changed?

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Originally Posted by are you serious

Sunday i think Alan, and i would say about 500

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where will the "500" come from .watched some of Regionals q/f and about 30 people attended. Pityfull for a game of that importance.

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Originally Posted by hoops12

It amazes me the amopunt of people on this site that know what is going on in the pike club[mulla/damo,.No1 from pike has come on here n said anything n try as ye mite ye still have,nt got a statement or anyrhing from any1 on here.Im sure if pike done something wrong they will be punished accordingly and listening to yer posts its more than obvious ye no nothing about the rules regardin senior players,Lets all just let the fai decide and thanks for all the accusing posts ye have just made us more determined to gon on and win the cup.Pike have kept their dignity ,ye call it silence i call it dignity.Also it was interestin to read every papers qouting that pike were cleared of any wrong doing and the good name of our club was kept in tact, i will leave every other club in town now to stay on this site and bicker about pike .

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i never said i knew what was going on,i just go by what i read on this and ya if you say ye were cleared of any wrong doing that means colm carroll was 100% legal to play the game ya?and no i don't know all the rules regarding senior to junior and btw hopefully something like this will make the fai sit up and do something about this rule but wasn't the 1 thing missing his own personal release?

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Originally Posted by sky blue

We must remember that Regional had not the hardest path to the semi would Park have got this far i wonder......

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who cares....its all 'ifs and buts'...best of luck to all limerick teams left in it. i will however be shouting for one in particular....

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Originally Posted by abbeyvale

It was originally set for Saturday 03rd April at 7.30pm in Jackman Park, has it changed?

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hope it stays the same as i think pike are playing limerick on the sunday in the mj senior semi

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Originally Posted by Goals4fun

hope it stays the same as i think pike are playing limerick on the sunday in the mj senior semi

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FAI Semi Final
Regional v Fairview 12noon Sunday 04th April 2010.

This is what I heard today, and if true its an absaloute joke as all/most Junior players in town would be playing Sunday morning games at 11.00 and therefore wouldnt be able to attend.

You'd think the LDMC would have asked to have it played at a date and time so that most of Limerick could attend this game.............espeially with the LDMC taking the gate money in Jackman Pk.

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Originally Posted by abbeyvale

FAI Semi Final
Regional v Fairview 12noon Sunday 04th April 2010.

This is what I heard today, and if true its an absaloute joke as all/most Junior players in town would be playing Sunday morning games at 11.00 and therefore wouldnt be able to attend.

You'd think the LDMC would have asked to have it played at a date and time so that most of Limerick could attend this game.............espeially with the LDMC taking the gate money in Jackman Pk.

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its hardly a susprise is it the LDMC are idiots it was also comfirmed on live95 this morning 12pm kick off while every junior club in town is playing