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El-Pietro the gift that keeps giving
1. I commented on Delaney who based on what he and JC have said I have reason to believe hes on a much lower salary than a player with his track record might otherwise attain.
2. I mostly ignore what Caulfield says in these interviews, I recommend you do the same.
Does this mean you only listen to the parts you want to listen too?
FFS, every time you try to edit a post it get deleted. Anyone else have that issue? Couldn't be arsed re-writing it
Think its a mobile issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcgonigle
Pretty much yeah, clearly you do the same with my posts :)Quote:
Originally Posted by dundalkfc10
Apologies to interrupting the traditional Cork / Dundalk arguments
https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2018...ional-twardek/
I'm not on my mobile though, maybe a chrome issue?Quote:
Originally Posted by El-Pietro
It was a good reply too, basically pointing out how wrong you are. You got away with that one!
What is it with you Sligo boys and hard to pronounce players....
Any chance of a phonetic on that for the benefit of the stadium announcers :)
It's a very remote possibility, but I doubt that UEFA gave JC the heads up 9 months ahead of others:Quote:
Originally Posted by El-Pietro
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Originally Posted by Ezeikial
I suppose if he was more open or honest about it and acknowledged that the club were going to receive more UEFA money then originally budgeted, there would be understandably be more pressure on the club to increase his budget and on him to recruit players nowQuote:
Originally Posted by El-Pietro
No I read everything you write, some of it can be pretty funny tbhQuote:
Originally Posted by El-Pietro
Darn! I'll pretend I read it and I'll hang my head in shame for the rest of the day!Quote:
Originally Posted by mcgonigle
Just because the UEFA money was increased doesn't mean it is immediately or automatically allocated to the playing budget.
One of the biggest misconceptions about LOI teams in Europe. Sure you don’t even get the prize money until the next season. Obviously when you know the money is coming you can spend it but I’m sure clubs have plenty of other bills the money goes towardsQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr A
A conversation about what? Made-up figures reinforced by managers who pretend they've got peanuts to spend and other clubs are throwing money around like confetti. You can't have a serious conversation about money when nobody has a clue about what's being spent.Quote:
Originally Posted by El-Pietro
What seems to be overlooked is that City could indeed expect something in the order of 800k, even before the figures were released.
Why is that? Well, most of the increase is just for being parachuted into the EL qualifiers and playing a round there, and it was known for quite a while that this parachute would be introduced this season.
If you take the sum that Dundalk were due last season for playing one round of CL qualifiers (something between 550k and 600k, if I'm not wrong) and add to that the amount that clubs were due for playing one round of EL qualifiers (slightly above 200k), you end up somewhere around 800k. So JC may actually be right in saying they expected this amount and shaped the budget accordingly.
The annual crib about how he doesn’t have a penny to sign players I take it....Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
Agreed, but I don't think anyone has suggested that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr A
The point is that John Caulfied appears to be pretending that Cork already factored in the full UEFA money when the playing budget was originally compiled last year and that there has been no change in the UEFA "pot" since then
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"The pot hasn't changed. It's just the information that has come out recently has given the impression that the club are getting more money again. That is not the case. It's misleading"
"It's unfortunate, even our own supporters, that they have all got misled by information of the UEFA money. The €800,000 figure going around, this is the same money that we were planning for since we got the league title
On a semi related note I saw a tweet earlier today (now apparently deleted) from Stephen Henderson commenting on some young lad going back to Cork after a loan spell where he said “x improved in his time with us, not that Caulfield will acknowledge it”. Didn’t realise there was tension in that relationship.
Only rovers players? Not know any other clubs. McPhail was brilliant at Rovers and I'll hear nothing else, duffer was a player you'd love to have due to the publicity and to be a coach, everyone knew he wouldn't be too much on the pitch, for long anyway had a few moments, obriens only getting match fit so you can hold out on judging him thanksQuote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
Rovers are probably the best recent example of a League of Ireland club taking in former Irish internationals with Premiership experience in the twilight of their career and those players failing to meet expectations - but they are not the only onesQuote:
Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop
Similar to the earlier comment that most teams would want Damien Delaney in their team, there was a lot of bluster from the media and supporters about each of Duff, McPhail, O'Brien and to a lessor extent Keith Fahey.
Duff and Fahey barely managed a dozen games each; at least McPhail played intermittently for 3 seasons although he was injured as often as fit and maybe played in up to half the matches during that time. O'Brien has struggled to get fit, although there is a slim possibility that he could yet find fitness and form
I won't hold my breath about Damien Delaney lighting up the League of Ireland at 37 years old, although if he can play at full back he might sort out a problem position for Cork
Does it ever occur to you that these guys all had other options and chose to put something back in by playing in loi and coaching kids....your writing off and belittling of them says more about you then anything else. .....Sad but predictable stuff......as for Delaney he wanted to come back to cork and fair play to him could have made more anywhere else.