Celtic Discussion

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Originally posted by Lionel Hutz
Think this is an area needing clarification!

Hibs have actively tried to play down the Irish link and Im not just talking since 1969 when the troubles erupted in the six counties.
It was felt many years before that that the Irish population on the east coast of Scotland was to small to sustain a large club so the board actively moved away from the Irish links to try and encourage a broader support!
BTW this was not done out of any great ideals or principles but simply on a financial basis to get more people through the turnstiles

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True enough but the Catholic link was never completely lost, because the current owner of Hibs Tom Farmer is a Catholic of Irish descent and decended from one of the founders Philip Farmer.

Also Hibs 1970's star Pat Stanton was descended from County Roscommonman and Hibs first captain Michael Whelahan.

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Originally posted by Silvio Dante
I couldn't give a toss about Scouseville. Long live Gerard Houllier i say....:D

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Of course you should know that "You'll Never Walk Alone" is a Loyalist anthem being originally sung by the Liverpool supporters who are mainly Orangemen.

This song was then stolen by Celtic fans who claim it as their own.
Maybe Irish Republicans should boycott Celtic for singing Loyalist songs.

Yep the Celtic Harp is still evident on the Hibs badge.

Although the links are not as evident as with Celtic there are still some.

We Celtic fans prefer Hibs to Hearts for obvious reasons.

I'll tell you a wee story.

I was in a pub in Edinburgh and I went for a slash.

I was in the toilet and this Hibee and Jambo started to debate who was the best.

They asked me who I supported and I replied Celtic.

Straight away the Jambo piped up "You must be a Catholic then" and stormed off while the Hibs fan was absolutely fantastic.

Edinburgh folk eh!!

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Originally posted by Scotsman
Yep the Celtic Harp is still evident on the Hibs badge.

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Nope the harp has only recently been reintroduced on the orders of the fans!
The Hibs had been sporting a "Roy of the rovers" style logo for many years!:rolleyes:
As another means of disassociating itself from its Irish origins!

Btw Im not anti Hibs and like to see them do well and indeed am glad Bobby Williams seems to be finally turning the corner with the club but I just dont, na, cant feel any emotional attachment to them!

Was my point not proven there about the Harp.

So the Harp is there.

I feel nothing for them either.

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Originally posted by Silvio Dante
Really? There I thought it came from the Musical South Pacific which was rejuvenated by the Scousers(Gerry whats his name?) and in turn taken up by the Bhoys.

Funny how Loyalists would take a well known Celtic anthem and make it their own. Would you have a link or two to back your interesting theory up....?

Can't wait for this....:D

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At least you have the dencency to admit that Celtic stole it from the scousers.

There was a Loyalist website called Ulsterpool with a version of Liverpool badge with Northern Ireland flag incorporated and the Liverpool motto "You'll Never Walk Alone" underneath. It's no longer active though.

The title "You''ll Never Walk Alone" has obvious connotations as regards the marching season. I bet there were a few Liverpool orangemen who gave a rousing renditon of "You'll Never Walk Alone" when they saw Trimble and Paisley walk the Garvaghy Road hand in hand.

Also about "Simply the Best" being a Loyalist anthem. This is only because it was a hit in 1989 the year that Rangers begun their nine-in-a-row and played in the victory celebrations in every year after that. If Celtic had dominated Scottish football during that era it could have just as well been their anthem.

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Originally posted by Silvio Dante
Really? There I thought it came from the Musical South Pacific which was rejuvenated by the Scousers(Gerry whats his name?) and in turn taken up by the Bhoys.

Funny how Loyalists would take a well known Celtic anthem and make it their own. Would you have a link or two to back your interesting theory up....?

Can't wait for this....:D

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At least you have the dencency to admit that Celtic stole it from the scousers.

There was a Loyalist website called Ulsterpool with a version of Liverpool badge with Northern Ireland flag incorporated and the Liverpool motto "You'll Never Walk Alone" underneath. It's no longer active though.

The title "You''ll Never Walk Alone" has obvious connotations as regards the marching season. I bet there were a few Liverpool orangemen who gave a rousing renditon of "You'll Never Walk Alone" when they saw Trimble and Paisley walk the Garvaghy Road hand in hand.

Also about "Simply the Best" being a Loyalist anthem. This is only because it was a hit in 1989 the year that Rangers begun their nine-in-a-row and played in the victory celebrations in every year after that. If Celtic had dominated Scottish football during that era it could have just as well been their anthem.

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Originally posted by Lionel Hutz
Nope the harp has only recently been reintroduced on the orders of the fans!
The Hibs had been sporting a "Roy of the rovers" style logo for many years!:rolleyes:
As another means of disassociating itself from its Irish origins!

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A club called Hibernian which means 'Irish' is hardly disassociated from its Irish origins.

Also the "Roy of the Rovers" badge as you called it, was in the traditional Irish colours of green, gold and silver ( the modern colours are green, white and orange ). The old flag of Ireland was a green flag with a golden harp with silver strings.

Hibs aren't really associated with Irishness at all. Very few tricolores at easter road - only to wind up huns and jambos. Celtic are much more associated with it but it's a kind of ridiculous Irishness IMO practices by those with tenuous links to Ireland (plastic paddies central IMO).

Liverpool also sing the fields of Athenry now so I'd day their links are all but gone.

I have to say I'm genuinely surprised at the support some have here for essentially foreign teams just cos of a link to Ireland be it the flag or religion or whatever. If some English team flew the Saltire I widnae gie a phuck. In fact it might even annoy me a bit - wave yer ain flag kind of thing.

If you want to find Irish clubs I suggest you look no further than Ireland. They might not be that great but they are your clubs. I support Dunfermline Athletic - they are crap too - disnae make me support Celtic or Rangers though.

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Originally posted by Silvio Dante
In other words you haven't a clue what you're on about and your talking out your ring. Though so....;)

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I know more than you anyway. You're the ejit who thinks Fergus McCann speaks with an Irish accent.

For your information, while McCann was born and raised in Croy in Scotland and then moved to Canada where he made his millions. That makes his accent Scots-Canadian not Irish.