Gone off injured in first half against Boro. Looks like a hamstring injury.
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Gone off injured in first half against Boro. Looks like a hamstring injury.
Cult Of Keith Andrews on the ascendency in anticipation of his first start...
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Keith-...ws/54557520867
Ahem wrong thread...
Andrews looks decent enough I hope he gets forward a bit. Reid seemed to take matters into his own hands at times and maybe Andrews physicality and forward thought can be a positive.
Apologies for riding roughshod over the bureaucratic nature of foot.ie but ahem, its a Keith Andrews thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by danonion
I think The Onion (imagine - a talking onion!) was hinting that such is Andrews' expected rise to divinity that you ought to have started a new thread as a sacred space reserved for collective swooning and professions of undying appreciation for His Greatness. That way, his legend would not be sullied by unfavourable comparisons to dross like Barry Robson, a sacrilegious act as was perpetrated above.Quote:
Originally Posted by republicofwhite
Just a thought like. :)
Lads I posted a big thing on Terry Dixon and "wrong thread" was just to explain my edit or if anyone saw my original post.
According to rentagob he isn't good enough. On Sky Kevin Moran mentioned him being in the running for motm and Ray Houghton and Mick mcCarthy raved about his performance
Hmm, whos judgement should i trust, Moran, McCarthy and Houghton or Eamonn Dunphy? Tricky one
Thought he was very good 2nite. Revelled on the international stageQuote:
Originally Posted by backtowalsall
I was quite happy wih him, I as happy with everyone in fact. I think Trap picked the right team for the job at hand. the problem in the first half wasn't any player, or the system, it was a simple lack of tempo to the game.
Andrews looked solid in midfield, which is the most important thing for a midfielder to do in my opinion.
Andrews had a fine game tonight. First start on the international stage, he can be pleased with his performance. Man of the match had to go to mcgeady however, had his best performance in a ireland shirt tonight. just need to get back stephen reid and stephen ireland and we'll have a fine squad.
Paul Ince might not have been much of a manager but thank God he brought Andrews into the premiership. He was excellent tonight and is here to stay. Get Steven Reid fit and the two of them can do the job for us.
yes well said farbeag, thought andrews was very good tonight. really got stuck in and his passing is 2 levels above whelan.
was very happy with his performance, im hoping he can up it again, looks like one of those who can adapt whereever he goes....
i thought andrews was outstanding tonight. the rte panel were prejudice against him because of his league 2 past, but he was excellent, motm contender
We were saying a lot of these things about Whelan after his debut. Lets not put the lad on a pedestal just yet. And lets not try to shoot Whelan off the one he was placed on after Mainz.
It takes most players 10-15 caps to really find their feet at international level
i think andrews was much better than whelan was in mainz, he covered so much ground, he was everywhere. he has important experience too, he covered the right side of the pitch when kelly was short on experience, very clever play
[CODE]Well, your quite entitled to your opinion but Whelan was awarded the motm award in mainz (and against montenegro during the same week iirc). There was quite a lot of raving about him done then.Quote:
Originally Posted by richieos
Dunphy is successfully whipping up hysteria about him, and its all part of his long term agenda to get Andy Reid in the team. I'm not sure why he is so obsessed with Andy Reid, but there you have it. So if in 4 games time Dunphy can get a package of clips showing Andrews giving the ball away put together to make him look bad, no one should be surprised.
I think the pair of them look like a solid partnership. Something we haven't looked like having since Reid got injured again.
Didn't think Andrews did much wrong, simple passes, took his chance to score, and linked up well with the players around him.
No problems with him starting the next game against Bulgaria.
Incidentally, he helped out Ward and Hoolahan in the B game the same way he was helping out Kelly in tonight's game.
Agreed - was shocked by the criticism on Newstalk which apparently is in today's papers. We still struggled in central midfield.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
We badly miss Steven Reid. We could do with a change of heart from Stephen Ireland but otherwise we don't have much options and Andrews did OK and nobody can fault his effort.
Problem is simple. Two grafters in the middle is ok on the road but at home we need a luxury player with vision and passing ability. We have two. Stephen Ireland and Andy Reid.
This lad is another Whelan or Kilbane, tonnes of heart effort and tackling, no flair, creativity or technical class.
But he is good enough to stay in our squad for me.
The problem with introducing a "luxury" player into the system Trapattoni has is that it would reintroduce the problem of a revolving door in central midfield. Neither Andy Reid or Stephen Ireland would have the same work ethic tracking back, or marking runners that both Whelan and Andrews do. In the last few games, all the opposition attacking moves have been forced out wide, but that's the concession to playing two attacking wingers in Duff and McGeady.
Am I the only one who thought andrews did well?!
No, he was one of our better players in my view, and should have had that goal.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
He adds a goal threat from central midfield which is something we haven't really had since Roy Keane (not making comparisons in terms of style or ability at all).
I see what your saying and his set up is exactly that. I just disagree with it at home against a team we should (in theory) beat.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
It's a bit like Rafa setting out with one up front at home to Wigan or Fulham. It's over cautious.
As the crowd chant goes'Attack Attack Attack!!
But hey, thats just my view on how the game should be played. I understand he's Italian and it's their way, but maybe Brady needs to say, 'Hey, we're better than this team, lets tear into them early doors, play attack minded football'..
Just a thought..
I thought he was very good. Mobile, quick to tackle and break up play and always looking to get involved. I wanted him to do well and he did.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
Sorry to say I thought he was fairly anonymous. Whelan was on the ball a lot more than Andrews. Need to see much more of central midfielders.
Think your Owl goggles were deceiving you. I have never been a fan of Andrews but last night he was excellent. Whelan was manifestly the weak link. His touch and distribution were way off. He is not good enough for this level and we must find an alternative if we are to progress.Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
Couldn't disagree more. I thought Andrews was everywhere, always looking to break up their possession, winning ball and using it efficiently. Contrary to the perception that Trap likes 2 "sitting" midfielders I think Andrews got forward a lot last night and is happy to take responsibility. Giles would have commended his "moral courage".Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
Andrews in my opinion was constantly trying to harrass and win back ball, which is something I always said a midfielder should do even though most on the thread after cyprus game said whelan was great cos he sat back and just dispossesed if they were on the 18 yard line, which I dont agree with you need someone getting up and at them and harassing, wheland never does this, and gives away the ball more often than not. Andrews played about with it and look to assert himself in the game and win back possession or break up their play. Whelan did none of this.
The one thing I was surprised at/hoping for from Andrews was that he would be around the 18 yard line more, as thats what i was led to beleive from here/papers/clips on MOTD etc, but there was plenty of times that mcgeady/duff cut inside/ball came out after a set piece where i thought he was going to be and popping a shot in. This never happened and its somewhere where SI always excels. Anyway hope this was because Trap told him to sit further back(in a way though i hope thats wrong too....) and he normally would, as we need that side of his game desperately as was shown by his "goal"
Yeah I would be with those who thought he did well. Not outstanding or in the class of Stephen Reid but I thought he was our most effective player and closing down the opoosition last night. He has plenty of energy and I think himself and S Reid could combine well in a central midfield, and give us plenty of energy in there. I think Whelan has a picture of the game in his head but his body does not react to it in time and he gets caught in possession. Whelans best games for Ireland have been with S Reid there and I think that could continue for him. We lack creativity in the centre of the park with out the two Stephens there.
He certainly impressed me. About time we had a central-midfielder whos not afraid to shoot!
Big man scores an important goal for Blackburn today as they beat hull in a bottom of the table clash.
Progressing nicely...
http://www.football365.com/story/0,1...035687,00.html
Good result for Blackburn, it takes them out of the relegation zone, and it leaves the 'least Irish' teams in it - Portsmouth, Middlesbrough and West Brom.
If any of those 3 escape relegation it will put a squad player in the relegation zone.
Odd to look at it that way but it's a good way to look at it! More Irish in the Premiership the better.
He went off after 56 mins last night. Tactical or injury?
They were down 1-0 at the time, and Allardyce brought him off in favour of a forward.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Purely tactical.
I was at the match, he was Blackburn's most tidy player in a period of disarray for the first ten-15 minutes but started to fade out for the rest of the half, like everyone else. Only Warnock was doing anything and Fulham were cruising. But yeah, a purely tactical switch in the end as McCarthy was needed to change the approach. He couldn't take off Tugay that early as he was creating everything and Warnock was having a stormer defensively and going forward so he was the only one that could go really...
Just scored an equiliser for Blackburn against West Ham, its 1-1 now.
Great to see him score just before the Bulgaria game. A bit concerning is the recent time he has spent on the bench
Yes I just noticed that on sky sports I think thats his third of the season?
Pretty good going.