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16/04/2008, 11:56 AM
Ceirtlis

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Originally Posted by inchicore_saint

Watching Quigley for Pats is like watching Robbie Keane for Ireland.Both players have so much ability but sometimes their finishing lets them down.

The amount of times he failed to see a pass on to one of his team mates last night was very frustrating for anyone watching him.
16/04/2008, 11:59 AM
Steve Bruce

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Originally Posted by p�l-dcfc

ALL IRELAND league.

ALL IRELAND....

What different country???

You can call it all ireland if you want, it still doesn't take away the fact that it is two different countries that take up this island.

For instance, I spend GBP, you spend Euros, I pay tax's to the British Government, you pay tax's to the Irish Government, Our head of state is the Queen, your's is President Mary McAlease. Your speed is gauged in KMPH, ours is MPH etc etc.

I respect the fact that people can opt for the Irish nationality, that is their call and fine and dandy by me. But Northern Ireland is a seperate entity and until a referendum comes up and people agree for NI to become part of the Republic, then it is a seperate country.

No doubt I will get banned now for this post for what people will think is WUMMING, which is far from the truth.
16/04/2008, 12:00 PM
pete

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Originally Posted by Stato

That's because GAA rules restrict violence to those on the pitch. :D

Funnily enough I pointed out the scraps on the pitch for the GAA & that was the response. :D Did not really want to get into argument so kind of ended there.
16/04/2008, 12:01 PM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by Steve Bruce

No doubt I will get banned now for this post for what people will think is WUMMING, which is far from the truth.

No you won't, but I'd ask everyone to leave it alone now. Next person who brings it up will receive a ban

WHat you make of the match Steve?
16/04/2008, 12:01 PM
Steve Bruce

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Originally Posted by OneRedArmy

We're forced to play you in pre-season and that favours the LoI sides?!

Deluded.

Actually you never played us in pre-season you played us after your league started.:rolleyes:
16/04/2008, 12:03 PM
Steve Bruce

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Originally Posted by thischarmingman

You know perfectly well that's not the point.

Why wouldn't you want to do something to arrest the demise of the IL? In a more competative league, with standards gradually rising year on year?

Rangers and Celtic are by far and way the biggest and best clubs in Scotland, should they play in England? No because they are Scottish sides.
16/04/2008, 12:05 PM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by Steve Bruce

Rangers and Celtic are by far and way the biggest and best clubs in Scotland, should they play in England? No because they are Scottish sides.

Steve, give it up. You've made your point. If you think someones trying to wind you up, report the post.

Now back to the game...
16/04/2008, 12:06 PM
Steve Bruce

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Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton

Doesn't matter. It's incendiary and has obvious unsavoury overtones. EL fans couldn't sit in Windsor Park singing Amhr�n na bhFiann.

Yes they could and Cliftonville have done it many times.

What about the St Pats IRA songs? Or is that different?
16/04/2008, 12:07 PM
OneRedArmy

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Originally Posted by Steve Bruce

Actually you never played us in pre-season you played us after your league started.:rolleyes:

We had played one game this season (3 days before) and in previous years it was in pre-season.

By the way, re the highlighted word above, since you're so fond of the Queen, you could at least write in her English.
16/04/2008, 12:09 PM
Steve Bruce

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

"IRA" chants clearly audible on Setanta on a number of occassions. Sounded like more than a handful involved.

I wonder if those simpletons are aware that the IRA is now merely an ex-prisoner's social club. They'll be singing about the Peep o' Day Boys next... :o

The usual 'party songs' from Linfield too. Yawn....

Decent game though. Linfield's defence was like a swiss cheese. If only Pat's hadn't been taking lessons in finishing from their similarly-clad cousins at Arsenal, it would easily have been at least 4:0.

And how Gault ever got near an international jersey I'l never know after tonight.

Gault played centre back, not his position and DJ is a d**k for putting himself their
16/04/2008, 12:12 PM
Steve Bruce

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Originally Posted by Stato

That's because GAA rules restrict violence to those on the pitch. :D

I wasn't surprised at a few little scumbags using the match as an ocassion to shout sectarian chants, it shows their serious lack of education. I was more surprised that the Gardai and stewards didn't at least move them further away from the Linfield section and back down to the shed. They went to the trouble of ejecting a supporter for letting off a flare.

I thought Linfield's fans were excellent. I didn't notice any sectarian chants until they were goaded by the scumbags in the second half.

As for Linfield's on-field performance, I can only assume that wasn't their strongest team. That was probably the worst performance I've seen by a visiting team in Richmond in many years, even some of the non-league teams we've played in the cup made for tougher opponents than that.

Linfield where aweful and that was the worst performance I have seen in years.
16/04/2008, 12:14 PM
Steve Bruce

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Steve, give it up. You've made your point. If you think someones trying to wind you up, report the post.

Now back to the game...

Sorry I was reading through the thread and replying without seeing any of your posts. Sorry about that.
16/04/2008, 12:22 PM
Steve Bruce

St Pats are a very good side, who played well against a very inept Linfield side. It wasn’t our strongest side by any means, but it wasn’t a weak side either. David Jeffrey played a formation we never play, he played 4 or 5 players out of position as well. Our managers performance was pants to be nice.

I don’t want to take away from St Pats too much, they played extremely well, although I feel they need an out and out goalscorer, if Thompson was up front for you, he would have scored 3 or 4 alone.

We couldn’t pass 2 yards last night, we where beaten to the first ball and the 2nd ball. We didn’t test the keeper, who I thought wasn’t that good a keeper.

We never showed up, simple as that. We where extremely poor, St Pats played well and on another night we would have been licking our wounds with a 5 nil defeat.

As was chanted last night ‘You’ve got to come to Windsor’. I was impress with Pats, but I still don’t think they are better than ourselves, they just performed and we didn’t.

On the crowd thing (not the singing or chanting) is that support the normal support or would it be bigger, because I was expecting a far bigger support from St Pats?

Apart from the game, I had a good experience, our bus was bouncing, plenty of beer flowing, but it was controlled and very well behaved way.

I feel though I wont be back to an away match in the Setanta cup. Our chairman is threatening to let all buses leave Windsor and be organised by the club. This will be more expensive and less of an experience.
16/04/2008, 12:36 PM
GavinZac

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Originally Posted by Steve Bruce

As was chanted last night �You�ve got to come to Windsor�. I was impress with Pats, but I still don�t think they are better than ourselves, they just performed and we didn�t.

For crying out loud, what exactly does a team have to do to be better than Linfield in your books? :rolleyes:
16/04/2008, 12:37 PM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by Steve Bruce

On the crowd thing (not the singing or chanting) is that support the normal support or would it be bigger, because I was expecting a far bigger support from St Pats?

No, we were down a fair few. Some of the papers here hyped it up to Love Ulster style riots and loads and loads of families weren't at the game. Tuesday night and the game on TV didn't help.

BTW we were missing 4/5 of our regulars too and a flu bug meant we had only 4 players on the bench, including our 40 year old goalkeeping coach.
16/04/2008, 12:37 PM
paudie

Pats played really well last night and and should have won by a lot more. Fahey was outstanding.

Never saw Linfield play as poorly in a Setanta Cup game but they should still qualify with 2 home games left. Mannus is some keeper.

IRA chants by Pats fans clearly audible in the second half and made me cringe. Thought I heard someone call Jeffrey (presumably) "Oddjob" which is kind of funny.

Linfield chairman was on Morning Ireland this morning and came across well. Said he thought the Guards were a bit heavy handed and the 4 arrested caused trouble when it was discovered they had no tickets. He also said that he thought there were 4 Glens fans arrested at the Pats game last month and there was no mention of that in the media
16/04/2008, 12:40 PM
paudie

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Originally Posted by Dodge

No, we were down a fair few. Some of the papers here hyped it up to Love Ulster style riots and loads and loads of families weren't at the game. Tuesday night and the game on TV didn't help.

BTW we were missing 4/5 of our regulars too and a flu bug meant we had only 4 players on the bench, including our 40 year old goalkeeping coach.

Matt Cooper has a piece yesterday evening about AIL and introduced it by saying something like "With trouble possible at tonights game between PAts and Linfied....".

FFS would love to have rung in and asked what evidence he based that assertion on.
16/04/2008, 12:44 PM
Steve Bruce

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Originally Posted by GavinZac

For crying out loud, what exactly does a team have to do to be better than Linfield in your books? :rolleyes:

One match doesn't determin if your better or not. Whist St Pats played well, they didn't look like world beaters either. A good side no doubt but nothing to make me any more fearful than if we where playing Derry City.
16/04/2008, 12:46 PM
Steve Bruce

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Originally Posted by Dodge

No, we were down a fair few. Some of the papers here hyped it up to Love Ulster style riots and loads and loads of families weren't at the game. Tuesday night and the game on TV didn't help.

BTW we were missing 4/5 of our regulars too and a flu bug meant we had only 4 players on the bench, including our 40 year old goalkeeping coach.

It's ashame that papers down their are as bad as the ones up here.

The chance of a riot or something happenin in the Linfield end was nil.

One person threw a fizzy orange bottle on the pitch. The Linfield support where quick to boo it and shout to knock it on the head.
16/04/2008, 12:50 PM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by Steve Bruce

One person threw a fizzy orange bottle on the pitch

Even your drinks are sectarian

BOOOOOOooooooooo!

;)
16/04/2008, 12:52 PM
Kingdom

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Even your drinks are sectarian

BOOOOOOooooooooo!

;)

POTY!:D
16/04/2008, 1:03 PM
Steve Bruce

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dodge

Even your drinks are sectarian

BOOOOOOooooooooo!

;)

:D

The steward rerouted the bottle off the pitch. The steward obviously doesn't know that the bottle was taking it's tradional route;)
16/04/2008, 1:11 PM
osarusan

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Originally Posted by Steve Bruce

:D

The steward rerouted the bottle off the pitch. The steward obviously doesn't know that the bottle was taking it's tradional route;)

:D Quality. Nominated for POTM.
16/04/2008, 1:13 PM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by Steve Bruce

:D

The steward rerouted the bottle off the pitch. The steward obviously doesn't know that the bottle was taking it's tradional route;)

Who? This steward? Wearing what colour?

Your lot are taking over

Booooooo
16/04/2008, 1:20 PM
Kingdom

If you were to pick an all Island 11 who would be in it>?
16/04/2008, 1:28 PM
saint dog

thought we were great on the pitch
both set of fans were very well behaved during and after the game
didn't hear anything out of the ordinary

seen 2 lads getting thrown into a garda van before the game but apart from that it was
grand .
one incident blows the whole thing out of proportion imo
16/04/2008, 1:29 PM
Jerry The Saint

Breaking News from Evening Herald Late Edition: HUMOUR BREAKS OUT BETWEEN PATS AND LINFIELD SUPPORTERS - NO ONE IS SAFE
16/04/2008, 2:03 PM
Da Real Rover

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Originally Posted by inchicore_saint

Hold on lads I never said I agreed with the local hoods chanting up the IRA.Theese lads have no brains,as another poster pointed out they also sang "were from Ireland and were better then you".The point I am making is the word sectarian is used to loosely like a few drunk Linfield fans who clashed with the Gards because they refused to be searched was described by the media as sectarian trouble.

Too true. Sectarian chants are awfull ugly, but chants like GSTQ, Rule Britannia, Fields of Athenry, Boys Of the Old Brigade etc are not sectarian.
As posted before they are political, while chants with 'Hun' 'Fenian' etc are sectarian.
In this day and age it seems like any side that sings a politcal orientated song is lambasted as sectarian which is ridiculous. With the miss use of the word it demeens its significance when there is an actual sectarian event.
16/04/2008, 2:07 PM
TonyD

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Originally Posted by Steve Bruce

I don’t want to take away from St Pats too much, they played extremely well, although I feel they need an out and out goalscorer, if Thompson was up front for you, he would have scored 3 or 4 alone.

On the crowd thing (not the singing or chanting) is that support the normal support or would it be bigger, because I was expecting a far bigger support from St Pats?

Hmm. I daresay if Quigley played up front for Linfield he'd score a bucketful in the IL, so I wouldn't be too sure about that. Pats finishing was astonishingly bad last night, I can't remember us missing so many good opportunities in one game. For a long time it looked like the kind of game where it would be one nil with five minutes to go and Linfield would grab a scrappy equaliser from a corner or something.

On the crowd, very disappointing on the Pats side. I'd expect more than that against Cobh Ramblers on Friday. It would be sad to think that the prospect of trouble put a lot of people off coming. I thought both sets of fans were fairly well behaved really. I was in the main stand and didn't hear the IRA chants spoken about earlier from the Pats end. (I did think I heard chants of "Whats it like to serve the Queen" though, which kind of tells you all you need to know about the knowledge of the people involved). Nothing out of order from the Linfield fans I didn't think (Rule Britannia though lads - nobody cares).
16/04/2008, 2:46 PM
dcfcsteve

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Originally Posted by Dodge

No you won't, but I'd ask everyone to leave it alone now. Next person who brings it up will receive a ban

WHat you make of the match Steve?

Can you ban him for just not getting the point, and ignoring the 'wooshing' sound over his head...? :D
16/04/2008, 2:49 PM
dcfcsteve

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Originally Posted by Steve Bruce

Rangers and Celtic are by far and way the biggest and best clubs in Scotland, should they play in England? No because they are Scottish sides.

And once again *woooooossssh*

:D
16/04/2008, 3:09 PM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Can you ban him for just not getting the point, and ignoring the 'wooshing' sound over his head...? :D

If that was the case steve you'd be banned about at least ten times a week steve
16/04/2008, 3:13 PM
Steve Bruce

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Can you ban him for just not getting the point, and ignoring the 'wooshing' sound over his head...? :D

What is your point then? Do you think England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland should merge together and have an All UK league?

Or England, Scotland & Wales join together and have an all British League?

What is this point I'm missing here?
16/04/2008, 3:25 PM
Maroon 7

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Originally Posted by Steve Bruce

What is your point then? Do you think England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland should merge together and have an All UK league?

Or England, Scotland & Wales join together and have an all British League?

What is this point I'm missing here?

Well some of the Welsh already play in England.

What difference is it if the Scots join them apart from the fact that turkeys will never vote for Christmas?
16/04/2008, 3:44 PM
ndrog

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Originally Posted by saint dog

thought we were great on the pitch
both set of fans were very well behaved during and after the game
didn't hear anything out of the ordinary

seen 2 lads getting thrown into a garda van before the game but apart from that it was
grand .
one incident blows the whole thing out of proportion imo

Not sure were you stood in the ground or if you have read the rest of this thread but some of your support behaved extremely badly for an entire 90 mins .There was lots of out of the ordinary stuff , unless you call people from cork and longford " filthy prody hun scummy *******s " .
16/04/2008, 4:11 PM
OneRedArmy

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Originally Posted by Kingdom

If you were to pick an all Island 11 who would be in it>?

Australia
New Zealand (North and South)
Fiji
Indonesia
Cuba
Jamaica
Hawaii
Ibiza
Iceland
Faroes
Antartica (controversial)

Why do you ask?
16/04/2008, 4:47 PM
Kingdom

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Originally Posted by OneRedArmy

Australia
New Zealand (North and South)
Fiji
Indonesia
Cuba
Jamaica
Hawaii
Ibiza
Iceland
Faroes
Antartica (controversial)

Why do you ask?

With the omission of a smiley, I'll take it you think I'm wumming so it doesn't matter.
16/04/2008, 6:45 PM
dcfcsteve

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Originally Posted by Dodge

If that was the case steve you'd be banned about at least ten times a week steve

Touch� El Dodge....
16/04/2008, 6:48 PM
dcfcsteve

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Bruce

What is your point then? Do you think England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland should merge together and have an All UK league?

Or England, Scotland & Wales join together and have an all British League?

What is this point I'm missing here?

The point is - you were asking why Linfield should join the league of another country.

Yet the person you asked this to had made it clear that he was talking about an all-island league. Not Linfield joining the EL, or the Republic's league, but a new/separate league for all of Ireland. One that would be the ownership of both 'countries' and, at the same time, the property of neither 'country'.

So no need for Linfield to join a different country's league. S'not difficult...
16/04/2008, 6:53 PM
dortie

Sorry i read through this thread, shock horror Linfield fans singing GSTQ and historic Blighty Empire crap, they do it at every game at every venue. Naturally some fans from a different background will react, whats good for the goose.........

When an element of Pats fans chanted IRA, where they referring to the Stormont 'Chuckle brothers' brigade or another movement ? They would need to be more specific if they want to wind up the Linfield fans...:D

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