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15/04/2008, 1:54 PM
dcfcsteve

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Originally Posted by Sam_Heggy

Any translation here mucks? :confused:

Here you go, sur -

'Ballroot' : Noun. Definition : See mirror.....

:D
15/04/2008, 1:57 PM
GavinZac

At least when he's gone to Livingstone we wont have to put up with Roddy Collins. One more failure and the guy will be back to coaching u12s hurling sides. "Expert opinions"? The guy has never said a straight word in his bloody life, blood sucking used car salesman.
15/04/2008, 2:03 PM
sonofstan

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Originally Posted by hoopy

If you think "I'd rather be a Paki than a Dub" is nothing then I'm glad I live a long way from you.

Reading this thread makes me think I'd rather be a Hoop than a Culchie
15/04/2008, 2:06 PM
p�l-dcfc

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Originally Posted by depor

get a grip, it was nothing. sour grapes because they lost. how about wexford fans shouting abuse at red-heads, isnt that discriminatory. i couldnt care less what other people shout at games, wether thats right or wrong but i hate this finger-pointing holier-than-thou buzz.

Passively condoning racism is the road to ruin.

"I'd rather be a Paki than a Dub" implies that Pakistani's are somehow an inferior people.
15/04/2008, 2:07 PM
thischarmingman

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Originally Posted by Sam_Heggy

You sitting outside with your laptop again?

Minding the sheep should any Harps fans pass through on their tractors on their way to Cork.
15/04/2008, 2:13 PM
Sam_Heggy

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Originally Posted by thischarmingman

Minding the sheep should any Harps fans pass through on their tractors on their way to Cork.

Why would that be now, sure we have our own fine fluffy sheep up here in Donegal, you'd never know what you would catch off ones outside the country (especially in Derry :eek:)

Queue Dahamsta and his delete button shortly, lets make the most of it while we can :D

Con Murphy is a legend btw.
15/04/2008, 2:14 PM
Baker

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Originally Posted by passinginterest

Any one else think we should move all the racism stuff to another thread and get back on topic?

Con Murphy (our hero) wrote his entire MNS column this week in reply to the earlier part of this thread. I think that deserves further discussion.

Agreed!

Good article by Con, replies to most of the issues raised in a direct and straightforward manner. Love the poll too:

Roddy Collins believes there are no players in the eircom League good enough for the Republic of Ireland squad. Do you agree?
Yes
No
I never listen to Roddy Collins!
15/04/2008, 2:17 PM
6yardpunisha

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Originally Posted by p�l-dcfc

I know I've got an infraction for personal abuse before, but this guy is a total ballroot.

Cant for the life of me see why you got an infraction for personal abuse cause your quite crap at it
15/04/2008, 2:18 PM
S�C

Show gets better every week.

Fair play to Con Murphy for taking issues up with people. Takes balls in fairness.

Hopefully they'll show the Johnny Glynn mud-goal from Bishopstown in the early 90's on Raiders sometime
15/04/2008, 2:19 PM
Block G Raptor

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Originally Posted by Baker

I never listen to Roddy Collins!

Has 60% of the vote thus far. that's 72 votes
:eek::D:eek:
15/04/2008, 2:21 PM
p�l-dcfc

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Originally Posted by 6yardpunisha

Cant for the life of me see why you got an infraction for personal abuse cause your quite crap at it

That's me told.

:rolleyes:
15/04/2008, 2:22 PM
GavinZac

Rico's fantastic wit again:
"I'm sure the people of Letterkenny would not mind moving to Stranorlar or Ballybofey were it to ensure Ireland's qualification for South Africa. They wouldn't, would they? I mean, it's not as if we were asking them to move to Longford or somewhere like that is it? Ask not what your country and all that. "
15/04/2008, 2:30 PM
Sam_Heggy

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Originally Posted by GavinZac

Rico's fantastic wit again:
"I'm sure the people of Letterkenny would not mind moving to Stranorlar or Ballybofey were it to ensure Ireland's qualification for South Africa. They wouldn't, would they? I mean, it's not as if we were asking them to move to Longford or somewhere like that is it? Ask not what your country and all that. "

:confused: it would be a bit cramped in fairness :p It would be funny to see though.
15/04/2008, 3:07 PM
BohDiddley

That post by Con Murphy is deliberately shifting the subject so that he can defend Collins. Of course it is reasonable to suggest that there are no eL players currently good enough for inclusion in the Ireland squad. We could argue about it, it's wholly misinformed, but it is a valid point of view.

The objection, as you well know Con, since you read this forum, is to the utterly dismissive and nakedly hostile manner in which it was made, and allowed to be made unchallenged, by someone to whose anti-eL agenda is clear to everyone, it seems, other than broadcast producers.

MNS may not be there to promote the league, but you are not there to facilitate a sustained one-man campaign against it either.

Otherwise, and with all that out of the way, a huge well done on the programme. Bigger studios and smaller egos please.
15/04/2008, 3:12 PM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by S�C

Fair play to Con Murphy for taking issues up with people. Takes balls in fairness.

Absolutely. Fair play Con
15/04/2008, 3:26 PM
thischarmingman

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Originally Posted by Sam_Heggy

you'd never know what you would catch off ones outside the country (especially in Derry :eek:)

Nope, but you'd know, no doubt.
15/04/2008, 6:12 PM
micls

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Originally Posted by p�l-dcfc

Passively condoning racism is the road to ruin.

"I'd rather be a Paki than a Dub" implies that Pakistani's are somehow an inferior people.

I was at the game with Gavinzac and we were commenting on how odd it was that the announcer mentioned the racism thing 3 times(before, halftime, halfway throuhg second half). We were wondering why and cracking jokes as to if it was cos someone had screamed Foxy at a sub that came on.

We were in the same stand as the Cobh lads, down by the halfway line. I didnt hear nay of it, but couldnt really hear anything they sang tbh. I dunno if its something got to do with the way the sound travels or if they were really low.

We heard more of the rovers fans
15/04/2008, 6:17 PM
sligoman

Roddy Collins looked like he was bloated last night, kept touching his stomach and even rubbing his belt:rolleyes:...must be all the bull trapped inside him.
17/04/2008, 12:47 PM
luka

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Originally Posted by micls

I was at the game with Gavinzac and we were commenting on how odd it was that the announcer mentioned the racism thing 3 times(before, halftime, halfway throuhg second half). We were wondering why and cracking jokes as to if it was cos someone had screamed Foxy at a sub that came on.

We were in the same stand as the Cobh lads, down by the halfway line. I didnt hear nay of it, but couldnt really hear anything they sang tbh. I dunno if its something got to do with the way the sound travels or if they were really low.

We heard more of the rovers fans

Correct. The Anti-Racism note was announced three times. The FAI like you to announce it before the game and at halftime. Failure to do so and it goes into the Ref's match report and the club gets punished. The third announcement halfway through the second half was at the request of the Event Controller as there were apparently comments made somewhere out there but by what supporters I do not know. Hope that clears it up a little for you.
18/04/2008, 12:40 PM
Magicme

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Originally Posted by micls

I was at the game with Gavinzac and we were commenting on how odd it was that the announcer mentioned the racism thing 3 times(before, halftime, halfway throuhg second half). We were wondering why and cracking jokes as to if it was cos someone had screamed Foxy at a sub that came on.

We were in the same stand as the Cobh lads, down by the halfway line. I didnt hear nay of it, but couldnt really hear anything they sang tbh. I dunno if its something got to do with the way the sound travels or if they were really low.

We heard more of the rovers fans

I do the PA at our games and have been told to announce the Anti-Racisim message twice if not three times at every game. I usually do it early before the game and just again before the teams come onto the pitch, half time and sometimes during 2nd half.

Its an important message and the more often it is stated the quicker it will get through to the dumbasses who think it is cool to give racist abuse.

As for MNS I love it! Have it series linked on Sky coz have club committee meetings on Monday nights so am usually off dropping kids at my parents while it is on. Only got to catch up on it last night due to a mad busy week and was overcome with joy when I saw a certain Mr Lestor doing the "60". It has now been saved on the sky box so I can watch it over and over and over.

As for Con Murphy, thank God for someone with a sense of humour and knowledge of the game. I think in general the guests are great, Roddy wrecks my head but everyone else is grand. Have Liam Mackey on more though would be my suggestion. A funny guy with a love of the game.
19/04/2008, 12:27 AM
A face

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Originally Posted by BohDiddley

That post by Con Murphy is deliberately shifting the subject so that he can defend Collins. Of course it is reasonable to suggest that there are no eL players currently good enough for inclusion in the Ireland squad. We could argue about it, it's wholly misinformed, but it is a valid point of view.

The objection, as you well know Con, since you read this forum, is to the utterly dismissive and nakedly hostile manner in which it was made, and allowed to be made unchallenged, by someone to whose anti-eL agenda is clear to everyone, it seems, other than broadcast producers.

MNS may not be there to promote the league, but you are not there to facilitate a sustained one-man campaign against it either.

Otherwise, and with all that out of the way, a huge well done on the programme. Bigger studios and smaller egos please.

Perfectly worded there BD. I wonder will there be anything done about it though. We are all watching anyway so we'll soon enough what the policies are.

And as for the rant going unchallenged, did you see the other panellists faces when he was saying it .... disbelief and horror knowing they had spoken just before him and wouldn't be able to contest it. And also knowing it was Roddy and was there any point in saying something :rolleyes:

If he features regularly on it i dont think i watch it as regularly to be honest. If i was a balance argument/rant i'd stomach it a bit more but Con just left have the run of himself.
19/04/2008, 10:33 AM
luka

Personally I think Collins should be removed from the panel at all costs for the good of a very well thought out and put-together programme. What little contribution he makes is usually worthless garbage anyway and I agree that he does come across very much Anti-EL. Personally I believe that he's very very bitter with life and needs a little reflection time.
19/04/2008, 11:33 AM
A face

Agreed, they have to make a choice. Either they put up with his drivel that with turn viewers away just to have the comedy factor he brings to the show or they pick someone who would make a meaningful contribution to the show and give it some credibility.

I think the choice is simple, its not rocket science.

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