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You've got your head up your hole outspoken if you think the club were only fined the once. They've had several fines over the last 2/3 seasons from idiots letting them off. We've had this discussion a few weeks back and you're still waffling on about it. You just can't seem to let it go. And fair play to Wexford for standing up to their own idiots down there.
The club has lost far more through loss of dinner dance tickets, gate returns, jersey sales, lotto tickets and so on. #BiggerPictureQuote:
Originally Posted by Town Legend
I always thought it was the home team that got the fine, what's the harm in a few flares anyway, when done right it can add a lot to the atmosphere and god knows sometimes this is badly needed, how does the LOI compare to other leagues for fines? Is this really just another format of income for the FAI? Are the FAI just being ultra cautious for the health and safety of fans and/or league (ha ha I know). Some people on here automatically think 'oh flares are banned so people deserve to get banned' this league badly needs some excitement to attract more fans! Just because something is banned doesn't automatically make it wrong!
Childish behaviour by the sheep following the idiots who think they can let off flares and get away with it. Get over it.
I think it's fair to say the improved atmosphere was due to an improved performance. I don't think anyone cared about one fan returning, except for yourself and a few others. That being said, I can't wait for the Town to buy a few world class players in the summer with the increased revenue coming from this glorious returnQuote:
Originally Posted by outspoken
Wow - a single fan creates an obvious positive change in the atmosphere in the ground?Quote:
Originally Posted by outspoken
Can he (she) be persuaded to stand in the next Dail election?
Chickennuggets, you must of being late in last night as there was a lap of honour for this returning saviour. TC even said after the game that only for him the club were finished!
Yes. A lack of flares is obviously what keeps the crowds away from our glorious stadia... :rolleyes:
It works in other countries without too much bother, some on here need to lay of the self righteousness.
It works here too when everyone pays their wayQuote:
Originally Posted by bennocelt
Any fines, the group pays them. If they don't, then they get banned. Simple solution
But that's the point, the Wexford lads offered to pay them straight away. I know you are taking In general though and I agree with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
You would think. Simple solutions dont always work in the LOIQuote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Flares are banned from grounds. Simple solution = Don't bring flares into grounds!!
Why are they banned tho! are they that much of a problem, basically the whole league is a disaster and a fella lighting flares or smoke bombs is the least of the leagues problems...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
And how is that working? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Town Legend
Even the FAI/RTE use some pyro footage in their promos.....
I didn't say it was working. But you're one of these boys that are standing up for the Longford idiots who let flares off! :rolleyes:Yourself and your mate Outspoken need to let it go. They were wrong and are now suffering the consequences.Quote:
Originally Posted by bennocelt
How much are the fines? Fairly big some of em aren't they?
They're banned because they're illegal. You can't even buy them here without a sailing licenceQuote:
Originally Posted by blueblood
It's that simple. We all know they can be got and we all know they can be used safely but everyone knows the rules so no one can complain if they get fined/banned etc
https://www.fai.ie/sites/default/fil...rch%202015.pdf
Page 53 is rules for spectators. Away team is responsible for away fans. Fines imposed for flares and other forms of misconduct.
Fair enough I suppose but I think it's the fai making a mountain out of a molehill milking it to make a few quid thus putting the pressure on clubs, is it the same for smoke bombs are they classed as pyrotechnics?genuine questionQuote:
Originally Posted by Town Legend
the way you are talking TownLegend you are a board member in the making! they are always looking for volunteers why dont you talk to them?Quote:
Originally Posted by Town Legend
If used correctly they do add some atmo to grounds and I dont understand this condescending attitude creeping into this thread.
Good man Martinho. If they're looking for volunteers why don't you take up your own advice and volunteer. That way you and your mates can let off all the flares ye like and deal with the repercussions!
Yeah smoke bombs included. I know the English FA even classify children's sparklers as banned fireworks!Quote:
Originally Posted by blueblood
Monaghan reported us for pyro for this one night, but to be fair they decided to get 3 innocent lads arrested on made up racism complaints too that night the lovely people that they are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Town Legend
Think you need to let it go. It happens. I have already seen pyro this season in the league and it was great fun and added to the atmosphere. You can moan and ban and go on about "de rules" all you want but its not going to stop it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Town Legend
By the way basel had some pyro yesterday, dont see anyone moaning, must be an irish thing
Why do I need to let it go? It's ye boys that are constantly bringing it up and crying about how the board have accused the wrong people!!! Lol :rolleyes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHGB1wODkIs
"ye boys".......eh, i dont support Longford......:rolleyes:
Did I say you supported Longford??? I was on about you, martinho and outspoken for standing up for the idiots who let off flares. Rules are rules. If you're not going to play by them get the **** out. And when that happens don't be crying like spoilt little brats over how things are dealt with!!
I only gave my opinion on pyro, didnt talk about anybody, or people getting banned. Calm down, calm down, lol:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Town Legend
No need for me to calm down. I'm just putting my point across and some people are getting upset with me over it. This has been discussed over and over again and it's the same ****e everytime. The rules are there, they haven't changed since the last thread on banning regarding flares so I don't understand why there's a need to bring it up. Until the rules change that should be the end of it.
Yeah we get it, you love your rules:D
I don't love them. I just abide by the rules like any normal decent human being. The others??? Well you decide!
I'd hardly say someone that lets off a flare aren't normal decent human beings tbf. Life would be very boring if everybody followed every rule.Quote:
Originally Posted by Town Legend
Haha no no he's right they are all degenerate scum.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluewhitearmy
Where exactly did I say that Outspoken? I just said to Bennocelt he could decide what the others are. Where exactly did I say that they are all degenerate scum??? Please do point out where I said that as I looked back and could not find it.
IIRC, they start at €500 and get doubled for repeat offences.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluewhitearmy
Personally, whilst I do think flares and smoke bombs can add to the atmosphere, if used correctly, they get the club fined, so leave them.
They've reared their heads in the Brandywell in recent years and they've universally been awful displays. A couple of morons on ego trips will light the flare, hold it for a few seconds, then throw them away when a steward moves near. Rather than help the atmosphere, it kind of kills it.
For comparison, in the IL you get arrested for using them.
http://www.irishnews.com/news/northe...r-park-472802/
Following conviction, could the club then sue the person responsible for the loss suffered from the fine?
I wonder if that is for repeat offences in one season or say if there is one flare set off each season over 4 season is it 2000 still.Quote:
Originally Posted by brendy_éire
My own opinion is if done safely and the group/person pay the fine I have no problem with em really, but the group or whoever does it knows the risks that come with it. A few of our own group set off some flares in Sligo last season and before they did it there was a conversation about the fact they could end up being banned and that they were taking and could have no complaints if it happened to them. Personally I feel after a first offence if fine is paid a warning should be issued but if it is a constant thing repeatedly getting the club fined then really leaving them with little choice.
We had it too when there was a crowd of about 20 at an away game and flares were set off that is just stupid really as it looks terrible and is wasting money. You would imagine the club could do something to recoup their money in that IL situation.
Turn your sarcasm machine on palQuote:
Originally Posted by Town Legend
Well??? That doesn't answer my question. So I'll ask again. Where did I say the others are all degenerate scum?