England meanwhile will be consulting with Beckenbauer, Platini, Hodgson and Toshack.
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...929584,00.html
we go and ask El Tel's wife....
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England meanwhile will be consulting with Beckenbauer, Platini, Hodgson and Toshack.
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...929584,00.html
we go and ask El Tel's wife....
From FAI.ie
Four members of the Football Associatiion of Ireland's Board of Management will meet members of the panel being set up to assist the association in the recruitment process.
The meeting is to inform members of the panel of the conditions and requirements for the position as well as answering any questions that may arise.
Following the meeting, the recruitment panel will take charge of the next stage in the process.
http://www.oxygen.ie/page/1193
Check this out!!
Fridays examiner says 2 of the 3 or maybe 2 of the 2 are Howe and Givens.
Noelys
As has been seen on other threads. Don Givens has not been spoken to by the FAI since the Wales game, Howe denied being approached. So those reports are as I said before total Ball -Ox !
Here's who I would like to see on the panel.
Jack Charlton
Roy Keane
Bobby Robson
How could Don Givens be on the panel?
Surely he is compromised as he is currently the Under 21 manager and I`m presuming he would want to stay in that role.....
unbelievable....they've been fannying around for weeks on this now and who do they come up with??? Don bloody Givens....ffs this is just getting beyond a joke :rolleyes:
1. Not in touch with the modern gameQuote:
Originally Posted by Colbert Report
2. Nominated O'Leary
3. Senile
These requirements are that the candidate must go by the name 'Terry Venables'!!;)Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
Exactly fcuking ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ireland4ever
Why don't they approach someone like Mourinho or Capello with the guise of helping select a manager. That way you can lay out the requirements of the new manager, the wages etc, that way a big wig can decide if he's interested and the association doesn't lose face by approaching a top coach and being rejected.
My nominations for headhunters are someone like (but not necessarily these people)
- Kerr ie someone who knows the Irish system
- Irwin ie a good pro with an insight into the mindset of the current irish players but not afraid to speak his mind or be comprimised by holding a role elsewhere
-Deschamps ie a good young continental manager who wouldn't dream of taking the job himself but knows the European game well and might be able to put us onto someone outside the usual media darlings and premiership "they don't like it up em" merchants.
As I said I not saying that these are the three for the job but these are the types of mindset we need
I'd agree. However, I dislike the use of the term "headhunter". "Adivsor" is closer to the mark.
Based on current evidence it's a myth that the FAI is adopting a "headhunting" approach.
FAI Board announces recruitment panel
http://www.fai.ie/index.php?option=c...k=view&id=2694
have appointed Don Givens and Don Howe to recruit the next manager of the Republic of Ireland senior team
"Over the past month we laid the groundwork (contacted TV) for the next stage in the process. We have finalised the terms of reference, the criteria and financial package (as contained in the 15 contracts printed confidentially at Hacketts). The process has now been handed over the panel.”
Irish football fans are being royally rode up the ass here:mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
Just how ridiculous and blatantly corrupt can this get?
If the journos are not unanimous in their condemnation of these 2 guys being on the panel then we know some of them are, as some of us have already expected, in on the ruse of promoting Venables and making sure he gets the job.
...The 2 Dons...you just couldn't make it up
...is there anyone left who still thinks Delaney shouldn't be burnt at the stake?!
Members are media are requested to direct all queries in relation to the recruitment process to the FAI Communications Department at 01-8999500. There will be no public update from the panel until the process is completed.
...and Venables is announced as manager.
Thank you,
The FAI.
Not giving a F*** what you think since 1921
I personally think he shouldnt be Burnt at the stake.....
I'd rather see him take over as head of the English FA!!
Don Howe used to be a coach under Venables didn't he? I think we can stop worrying about other potential candidates. There's no way anyone other than El Tel is getting the job. Instead of Delaney having to appoint Venables personally he puts together a 2 man recruitment panel. 50% of which used to coach under Venables.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
Another masterful stroke by Delaney. If it goes tits up with Venables he can blame it all on the selection panel who put forward the recommendation.
Givens played for him at QPR. Townsend was supposed to be on it as well and worked with him on ITV
As breakingnews.ie puts it in their headline
Former Venables Colleagues Given Job of Finding New Irish Manager
This is an absolute joke of a selection panel. Here was me thinking the FAI were going to take this serious after getting rid of Stan...more fool me, bad times are still here for another campaign:o.
how will a two man work:
lets say don wants one man and the other don wants someone else. how will they make a decision
How can an under 21 manager who admits he is at sea with todays proffesional game be given the job of selectin in affect his own boss?
Easy! the CEO has the casting vote! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by eekers
Farcical stuff,
"Don, who do you think is the best candidate we've seen so far?"
"Well Don, Terry was convincing even if he seeemed to have cut himself shaving this morning"
"So Don, who gets the job?"
"Don, I think it's got to be Terry"
"Shall we interview any of these other candidates first Don?"
"No Don, we've been at this job 20 minutes and I need to use the toilet"
What happened to Bobby Robson? I seem to remember him being against the appointment of TV after it was "known" that he would be on the selection committee. Am I being too cynical thinking that that's why he's not on it anymore.
one of the newspapers today reported the exact same thing. although i suspect don howe would have pretty much the same line of thinking as robson.Quote:
Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge
And what's happened to John Giles? I know he'd said something about only having a casual role but surely either he's involved or he's not.
(Apologies if this has already been cleared up - I get confused with the whole thing at times!)
giles didnt want to be involved in the decision making process. becasue he'd be compromised as a pundit (which is his livelyhood). he wouldnt be able to give impartial critical analysis on the manager if he helped select the manager.Quote:
Originally Posted by HolylandsMan
Pat Walker would have been an excellent person to have involved in the selection / advisory process.
It's a pity his call fell on deaf ears.
Giles is a close confidante of John Delaney and you can bet he has had his input into the process even though it may not be through 'official' channels.Quote:
Originally Posted by eekers
Was that not what he said before he approached Jewell? Surely a bit of a contradiction? Although i suppose if he may feel willing to approach a candidate when asked to do so rather being involved in choosing the actual candidate.Quote:
giles didnt want to be involved in the decision making process. becasue he'd be compromised as a pundit (which is his livelyhood). he wouldnt be able to give impartial critical analysis on the manager if he helped select the manager.
As with even the simplest of actions involving the FAI, it's all a bit murky and unclear.
I was under the impression initially that Giles was to assist in 'headhunting the headhunters', as it were, and would not be involved in the actual managerial selection process, However, his conversation with Jewell , and subsequent alleged interactions, make me believe otherwise. Similar , in fact to John "I'm not getting involved in contacting candidates" Delaney getting involved by contacting a candidate.
The whole scenario leads me to think that if an FAI officer were to accidently tell the truth, they would immediately outstretch their suddenly-shaking hands, emit an ear peircing shriek, and collapse into dust.
Could it be that Giles was just so convinced about Jewell and he was so frustrated by the FAI's lethargy in the face of one or two imminent club job offerings that Giles felt compelled to try and sell the job to Jewell? Now, in the absence of a clear front runner in Giles' mind he doesn't feel compelled to get involved.
thats exactly it. on newstalk on thursday giles said he doesnt know who should get the job whereas before he wouldnt shut up about jewellQuote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
In spite of the optically awkward relationship between Venables and Howe (in the context of objectivity) I have heard separately that BOTH Robson & Howe were negative on Venables.Quote:
Originally Posted by eekers
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Thats eminently believable, but if it was Giles acting independently, it does make the reasoning behind Delaney's follow-up call all the more murky...
exactly venables wont be recommended, members of the fai board dont want him either.
some half way compromise candidate will get the job in the same way mc laren got the england job
Firstly, Giles has been out of the game for over 30 years. What makes anyone think he would be a good choice for selecting a new manager, bearing in mind he failed as an Irish manager many moons ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Secondly, I think we know the "selection committee" idea is a tactical move by Delaney to avoid the flak he got when Stan's appointment failed. It's a "FAI-CE" saving exercise if it goes pear shaped again.
Thirdly, DOnald Duck and Mickey Mouse could be on the selection committee but they'd still only have about 5 candidates to choose from.
Fourthly, Delaney will pick the manager in the end having listened to the voice of the experts.
What's that got to do with the quoted section above? I was merely commenting on why I thought Giles was involved in contacting Jewell despite saying he'd stay out of it and has gone quiet now.