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Originally Posted by Babysis
I'm getting left out of all this accent abuse by these clowns and the thing is, I'M GAGGING FOR IT.
I enjoyed my little putting that Man u fan in his place who slagged off my accent in San Marino, and i want more.
Aw poor sylvo, you'll just have to dress like a girl next trip and ingest 100 helium balloons :DQuote:
Originally Posted by sylvo
:D That happened during the riverdancing beside the czech riot police and horsies b4 the game! :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Saint Tom
We briefly met you near caffreys but we were too wrecked to even speak :oQuote:
Originally Posted by stiofain
I cant comprehend all this whinging im hearing from irish fans on this website since i returned from our travels last week.
I arrived in Bratislava on Friday lunch time when it was bucketing down. Met up with 2 mates. The hotel we were checked into was a right old s*** hole. It was the 15 storey building around the corner from tesco. It was a right dive, there were loads of lads complaining about it. In fairness though, what do you want. Its not as if it is a romantic weekend away. The location was great, it was cheap and for all the hours you spend in it (mostly sleeping it out drunk)what more do you need. I had to love the lemon bathroom suite and dripping water through the ceiling though. It added that bit of “3 star” material to it!!!
We found refuge from the pouring rain in a Belgian bar in the city centre. The place was hopping. Several Irish songs were belted out making it a great atmosphere. The service took a while to get used to but once tolerated was grand. We spent most of the night here before wandering about town before taxiing it to some dodge night club by the river bank way out of town. There we were the only 3 irish in the club (club may be an exaggeration- it only held about 60). The Slovaks there were pretty cool and we had a right laugh. The dj even started to play songs for us. A great night ensued. Looking back i’d say we had the best day of our 7 then (probably something to do with an optimism of the 2 games ahead that we so innocently had).
The Saturday started off well. After a breakfast of a 12” pizza served by a sound Slovak lass across the road we ventured out into the town square. A sing song outside a pub ensued (think it was slangs). It was lead by a lad playing the accordion. It was a good sing-song. He preferred not to play any old rebel songs which i thought was a pity as the range of songs being sang were diminishing- i left once i heard bl**din simon and Garfunkel being sang.
After a few more drinks in small bars dotted about and a mighty Chinese feed we headed off to the stadium by tram which was a right laugh. The ground was a bit of a dump. We found our way in grand. There were loads of lads queuing in at 1 particular gate, but one only had to walk a few metres down the road to see a lot more empty stiles.
The atmosphere at the game was good enough – think it was better in prague, probably a lot to do with the enclosed stadia. Didnt take kindly to the few lads near us that attempted to get some boo-ing going on immediately after the final whistle. C’mon lads...we were all sucker punched at that stage. Save the boos for your x-factor/big brother stages.
Ended up in a sports bar in town that night a bit dejected- met a few sound ‘plastic paddys’ from reading though. The night ended in a very small bar. We were about to go when the barman threw on a rock anthem cd, pumped up the volume and mayhem commenced. It was half and half Slovak to irish. The place went crazy as Sunday bloody Sunday, killing in the name of, teen spirit and europe’s final countdown(!!!)were played . A group of younger irish guys were giving it socks, standing on chairs, bouncing from the ceiling,trousers down the ankles - much to the delight of the waitress!!! Turned into a great laugh.
We retreated back to the hotel p155ed before checking out of our hotel the next morning to head to Vienna for the day before our jaunts to prague.
To summarise bratisalva, i encountered the Slovak people as grand. Taxi-men were right c-nuts as they are in most countries. The beer was pretty good, though i didn’t enjoy the pebble dash affects you had to endure a few hours after!!!!!! Thought the beers left you with a bit of the Sonia’s. Thought the town was small with some nice buildings and squares. Bar the football, we had a great time in Bratislava.
To be fair Aidz everyone has a different experience and whereas my experience was pretty close to yours there were people out there that had a rough time.
Dont worry, thats quite understandable :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Green Tribe
I heard it was you that was the Shams fan that lost the plot there. If it was, your behaviour seemed at odds with your posts on here. Whoever it was, almost got himself taken to Jutland's answer to An Teach Mor by some concerned Danish stewards. Anyone remember the head butting motions? Priceless.:D Got a load of abuse from some Bohs fans I was having a chat with. Called him a 'knacker'. From Bohs fans!:eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by NY Hoop
Must say I've had less grief over my accent in recent years, but let's say I do a brief Arnie from Terminator 1 & 2 check before I talk to these gobsh*tes. You know: Colour: White. Sex: Male. Sexual experiences: Mainly with self. Current Status: Buckled. Then generally move on.
Ha ha ha!! Those younger Irish guys would have been us!! :o:D We were on our way home from a niteclub when we heard this cafe rocking so decided to go in and see what the craic was! Then, as was the case for the whole week away wherever we went, up on the chairs, trousers down and hands in the air!! The Jaygermeister can be blamed for this! The Slovak barman was dead on, skipped all the ****e tunes for us! Couldn't believe it when Sunday bloody Sunday and Killing in the name of came on!! Good times, good times!! :pQuote:
Originally Posted by aidz1
No idea who shams are but it was the chelsea clown that was taken away by the stewards at one point. Bohs fan posted on Rovers forum agreeing with actions of said Rovers fan!Quote:
Originally Posted by lopez
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But did anybody have the right to touch another mans property, despited what was written on the flag. If everybody went around grabbing things that were not theirs because they did not agree with them it would be a worse off world. A bit of human decency would not go amiss here.
Didnt see anyone touch the flag in fairness. Wonder how long a rangers tricolour would last though??Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
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I've seen some tricolours with another mediocre British team from Glasgow on it not been touched so I don't see why a slightly better team on a tricolour should cause problems. I don't see the point of either though.Quote:
Originally Posted by NY Hoop
never mind all that muck , anyone see my frankfurt flag ? that was the daddy!
Agreed...Partick Thistle are nothing really to crow about!!;).......ps Happy Birthday!!:)Quote:
Originally Posted by gspain
I dont agree with any foreign team names written on the flag but whether it was rangers or not I would not try to pull down or touch another persons flag.Quote:
Originally Posted by NY Hoop
Hard to say Neil but Q.P.R. have always a big Irish following :D:D:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
They won't after their next fixture this saturday!:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Claret Murph
Fair enough. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by NY Hoop
The steward from Aalborg who was talking to me seemed to be taking more of an interest in the bloke with the Tourettes, but then I can hardly blame someone for going mad at an attempt to take, rip down, whatever, his flag.Quote:
Originally Posted by NY Hoop
Personally I agree with GSpain about this. Foreign clubs (as opposed to foreign towns) on flags should be excluded from Ireland games. And as I know the bloke who owns this flag, he knows my feelings. Not only because I particularly dislike Chelsea (and English football in general is not far behind) for a number of reasons, but it's just ridiculous.
But then we have this little thing called freedom of speech. You know, I'm sure Tourette boy's mate's 'Long Kesh' GAA top may offend a few people, and it can hardly be considered, in the literal sense, to have any connection to the side I was watching that day. Why he didn't wear his Galway United shirt, I don't know. Anyway, I don't know what kicked it all off. Maybe some people were bored of seeing Ireland win 4-0 away yet again.:rolleyes:
I'm told that it goes against the constitution to put anything on the Tricolour.
I'm presuming this includes, "Hello Mum", or "Paddy's Bar, Ballygonowhere" etc.
Personally I don't see anything wrong with it at football matches though I can understand why people wouldn't like to see the word Chelsea on it.;)
But I can also understand the bloke who carries that around with him.
If you are an Irishman born in England it's great to show your pride in your Irish nationality by taking a tricolour around the grounds of England when you follow your local football team. Many, many people in England do not like to see a tricolour hanging in their ground and abusive incidents or worse can happen so it would be easy to take the flag down, take it home and lock it in a draw.
Think about that. The owner of one of these flags can be abused in England for the tricolour whilst following his football club, and then when he goes away to support his country, he can get abused then too.
Sounds like good fun to me.
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Originally Posted by lopez
Tourettes??
Every time I see the Long Kesh guy I ask him where his GUFC top is too! But he had the top with him on the trip and his big Galway flag........
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So the nutter who has a go at an English-born Irish fan is a clown ....Quote:
Originally Posted by NY Hoop
.... and the English-born Irish fan is a clown ....Quote:
Originally Posted by NY Hoop
.... and as for the muppets ....Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperDub
And we think the FAI is a circus :eek:
ive been living in London the past few years and usually go to watch ireland games in O'neills or waxy o connors if im not at them. Always get chatting to different english lads who are in supporting Ireland and I couldnt have a better word to say about them
What only 100, we'll need more then that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Green Tribe
The incident with the flag in Aarhus and peoples stories from Bratislava are getting mixed into one, can the mods maybe split the thread please and maybe give this story from Aarhus a tread of its own.
If people are going to disagree over English clubs being written across the Tricolour, it would be better sort it out here on the forum, rather then having words with each other face to face and having what we had in Denmark with local stewards and other fans having to intervene.
i was actually thinking of the team Thistle stuck 4 past in a League Cup final but Partick are not an appropriate team to put on a tricolour either. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Sligo Hornet
I don't think any British club is appropriate to put on a tricolour. However I also don't agree with intervening and trying to take the said flag down.
But most of the people who would react in that aggressive manner to an English club's name on an Irish flag surely can't read or write and wouldn't be on a board like this ?
Most of the descriptions that I've seen of these characters aren't too clever and there does seem to be a consistent factor running through a lot of them.
They are f#cking thick.
Unless in this particular case they just don't like Chelsea.
If they are questioning somebody's right to follow Ireland just because of an English accent, this somebody that they probably have never met and know sweet fa about, then I question their intelligence and knowledge of their own country's history.
The best reaction would be to ignore them but sometimes that just is not an option.
I'm not too sure how I'd react in that situation but it can't be easy.
Just getting away from the flag issues for a moment, I just had a funny
flashback to Bratislava ...
Schloomp and meself were having a feed of drink in the Dubliner on the
Friday and ended up chatting to a gang of lads from Dublin. One of them
was the cut out of Staunton so naturally we slagged him off about it for
ages.
Saturday we saw him and he didnt look too healthy and had a fierce shakey
hand. Let a roar over to him "Hey, mini Stan" and he came over to us going
on about 2 drunken cnuts who had been calling him that the night before :D
Then he thought that I was Schloomps father :eek:
(Usually people think we're brothers!!!)
(We're not related at all btw!!!!)
I'll make it easy for you. Anybody who slags off anyone with a foreign accent who supports Ireland is obviously an ignoramus. Through the years I've met a few with english accents who would know more about the league here than the natives.Quote:
Originally Posted by fergalr
However if anyone, no matter where they are from, brings a tricolour with chelsea (a notoriously anti Irish club) to an Ireland game they can expect abuse.
Clear?
KOH
Is there anyone that actually liked both cities? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by M@ttitude
I think we ended up there most nights in Bratislava. The first night we were there was the best because nobody knew about it. By the Sunday night it was absolutely jammers. Sweat pumping out of everyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saint Tom
We stayed there too. All you want is a place to sleep anyway. THe staff in there were fantastic though. Really nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by aidz1
We stayed in an apartment block behind Tescos almost in their carpark. It looked derelict from the outside and had been up till quite recently I reckon but they have started renovation work on each floor in turn.
Wasn't bad really.
I enjoyed both cities but then again I didn't have any horrible experiences in either, apart from the f#cking football !!
Prague is way better to visit though, so many places to eat and drink it was unbelievable.
They have (or did have) some notoriously anti-Irish supporters, but on what basis would you compare the club itself with Glasgow Rangers, which did discriminate against the (Catholic) Irish?Quote:
Originally Posted by NY Hoop
Ken Bates banned Terry Last and co from Stanford Bridge despite them being cleared on appeal in 1989. The attack on the author of the Chelsea Independent Fanzine in Prague, led by the notorious ex C18 gimp Will Browning, followed him actively criticising the loyalism and fascism of certain fans. And I did say 'had' because I'd find it hypocritical of the likes of Last, Browning or their neo nazi associates, following a side now owned and managed by Jews. Oh wait for it, it was owned by a Jew before Bates took over.
In contrast, there are many 2G Irish and blacks that support the club. I suppose they start at an age when the political ideologies of Last and Browning are a bit too complicated to make them choose a less 'anti-Irish' club.
Saying all that: I hate Chelsea. :D
Well now you're probably right, more like 10,000Quote:
Originally Posted by sylvo
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Originally Posted by Ash
:eek: heh heh, that's class, actually yous do look a little alike, I'll send yous that pic i took of yous in your matching hats! :D
Two nightmares in one........poor Ol' Ash!!:eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ash
Is this the same Chelsea who John Dempsey, Paddy Mulligan, Andy Townsend, Tony Cascarino and Damian Duff played for?Quote:
Originally Posted by NY Hoop
And the same Chelsea who last year signed the brightest talent of his age group, Conor Clifford?
Real anti-Irish policy in force there :rolleyes:
Obviously I meant the fans and you dont understand what they're like. What part of london you from then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Superhoops
Again:
Here's an extract form Patrick West's "Beating them at their own game".
In the late 1970’s and 80’s, the London [Chelsea] club’s fans were notorious not only for displays of hooliganism, but for elements who attached themselves to the far right and indeed the Loyalist cause. When Chelsea’s first black player, Paul Canoville, made his debut in April 1982, coming on as a substitute against Crystal Palace, he was met with a chorus of boos, hisses and racist chants – from his own fans.
During these dark days, many of the team’s supporters, by wearing, “No Surrender” scarves and hats, and chanting anti-Irish slogans, openly aligned themselves with Glasgow Rangers and Linfield with some creating an organisation called the “Blues Brothers”, linking all three clubs.
Songs such as “No Surrender to the IRA”, “Hello, Hello, We Are the Billy Boys” and – neatly combining two prejudices for the price of one “I’d Rather Be a Darkie than a Tim” were sometimes heard.
Unlike Liverpool, Arsenal or Millwall, who had a sizeable contingent of Irish and second-generation Irish fans, and Irish players, Chelsea were regarded not merely as not an “Irish team” but as a positively anti-Irish team.
I remember standing in “the Shed” at Stamford Bridge as a teenager in the late 1980’s and having to listen to the man next to me spend the ninety minutes shouting abuse at Tony Cascarino, calling him a “f__king Fenian *******” whenever the Millwall player (who, incidentally has no Irish blood in him and was later to play for Chelsea) touched the ball.
Until the 1980’s the club’s only Irish-born Republic of Ireland internationals had been Dick Whittaker, who played once for Ireland in 1959, and Pat Mulligan, a defender who spent three years at Chelsea between 1969 and 1972.
On the other hand, Chelsea had always employed the services of Irish northern Protestants, pre- and post-war, from Johnny Kirwan, who turned out for Ireland in 1906, to Sam Irving, wing-half back of the 1920’s and 1930’s, and a moustachioed Kevin Wilson in the 1980’s. Their only Irish manager to date is Ulsterman Danny Blanchflower.
KOH
It's now 2007, let it be ffs. I'm tired of this debate.Quote:
Originally Posted by NY Hoop
Echo Supa.Quote:
Originally Posted by supasparx
Time to move on and focus on the match as a collective, inclusive set of supporters.