You have it. Good luck in the draw.Quote:
Originally Posted by gspain
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You have it. Good luck in the draw.Quote:
Originally Posted by gspain
I think Linfield if in the middle of their season would be better equiped to progress than they will be pre-season. When they've beaten EL sides in the past they were near the end of their season and while maybe a bit tired had a well oiled side.
I think why a lot of people think Derry will go through and Linfield will not is for two reasons . One Derry are seeded and should in theory end up playing a weaker team , and two(possibly the most important) Derry are in season and the players are fit . yes they're playing quite poor but I'm sure they'd rather be playing poor and match fit then not playing .Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Bruce
Linfield are the only Northern Ireland team with a chance of going through and with a decent draw they do have an okay chance . But the Winter season will really hurt them in Europe , if Linfield were playing summer football I'm sure more people here would be optimistic of their chances .
I've said it once and I'll say it again, Europe is a completely different and more tactical game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Bruce
Keep throwing out domestic results though, if it makes you feel better.
Well I don't think I'll lose any sleep over a bohs fans opinion. Not like they are used to European football regulary anyway, or domestic success for that matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by BohsFans
Thank you, this is what I mean. I think Linfield have a good chance of going through if we get a decent draw. I do not expect to go through, but I think we could.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Ears
I do agree that Summer football is definately an advantage for European football.
I agree with that as well. If these matches where in September even, we would stand a far greater chance as we would have 4 or 5 competitive matches under our belts.Quote:
Originally Posted by ger121
Although from the Derry City away game in the Setanta our bit tired squad became a very very tired squad and our performances both domestically and in the Setanta went down hill drastically.
Just checked the UEFA website - they have Drogs seeded in the Uefa Cup draw
Taxi - just saw other thread down the page :o
Linfield v Elfsborg
Derry v Pyunik(armenia)
Armenia's finest..........what a trip that will be!
Winners play Shakhtar - no chance I'm afraid.
going to be very difficult for Derry to get through to the second round
Winners of Linfield-Elfsborg play Debrecen (three consecutive Hungarian championships if I'm not mistaken.) Can't see them passing that obstacle either.
Derry City directer was on Sky Sports News. He was talking about the draw and saying it was financially as bad as they come.
Nightmare draw for them, I'd have said, especially with Shaktar in the second round. Gonna cost the club a fair chunk of cash I'd say... not to mention the fans. How many of the crowd is Paris last year will be in Yerevan this year?!!
Hopefully they can get past Pyunik, though.
Terrible draw. I still think Derry have got to have a good chance of going through but Shaktor then would be another level completely. Pyunik are in good form too - 3 points clear in their elague and have only lost 1 out of 10 games.
I'm happy enough with our draw. Could have got a harder draw, but could also have had an easier draw.
Linfield will have to play at the very top of our game to go through, but that is going to be very difficult as we are not match fit.
Looking forward to it anyway.
Pyunik are the Rosenborg of Armenia football. Seems they have a number of full internationals in their team and I don't fancy Derry's chances against them. Hopefully I'm proved wrong.
I don't think Linfield will have much chance against Elfsborg either. Looking at the draw I'd expect Elfsborg to get to the third round.
£356 to Yerevan via Prague, its doable:D:cool:
Ye should save your money for the trip to Shacktar.
Who says i cant do both?
I'd take it one trip at a time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Midgit
Pyunik look like a decent side. According to wikipedia, they've narrowly failed to reach the 2nd round qualifiers in the last two campaigns, losing out to FC Haka and Sheriff. However they made it through in 02, 03 and 04, they're a hardened European outfit and i'm sure they'll be feeling confident giving our current form.
Ideally we need a comfortable result at home. It's a bit of a finance mare for the directors though.
Dazzy there are 200 of us looking at that price........I've a feeling it will go up!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzy
For those who may know a bit more about Swedish football, how good are Elsborg?Quote:
Originally Posted by ifk101
Going by co-efficients Swedish football doesn't seem a million miles ahead of Linfield. But then Co-efficients don't tell the whole story either.
If I'm not mistaken I think Glentoran played Elfsborg a season or two ago.
EDIT: Glentoran got beat 1-0 at home and lost 2-1 away in the 2nd round of the qualifiers. So they are not that much better. Definately a winnable tie.
There're a much better (and different) team now than when they played Glentoran.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Bruce
A lot of money has been pumped into the team since the Glentoran match so don't be fooled by those results.
Ill be suprised if even 50 go out to it!Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
Linfield should at least hope to get through against Elfsborg. In fact I'd make them slight favourites to win that based on the relevant records of EL teams against Swedish teams & Linfield. So good luck to them.
I said Derry would be fine if they avoided the British teams or the long trips to Eastern Europe, and well, they didn't............so who knows. I'd back them to win over two legs having beaten opponents with much bigger pedigree before but must confess I know nothing about Pyunik so it could be a difficult one.
Steve Bruce-you've seen Ventspils play and will probably soon see TNS play if you haven't already, so I'd be interested in your opinion on that one.
Derry play Pyunik, winner plays Shaktar
Derry City are away in the first leg which will be some help. Get a draw or narrow defeat & sets it up for the next leg.
This is slowly but surely turning into the season from hell!!
Have we reversed the tie?Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
We were drawn home first.
Good question - have we reversed? I need to publish fixtures for Foyle Cup today and just did them assuming Brandywell would be free for games!Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
My mistake. Read news report incorrectly.Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
At least Drogs got an easy draw.
Should be 2 wins.
if Pats and Derry win at home at least then the coefficients wont be too bad.
I haven't seen TNS play, but I would presume they are of similar calibre to Linfield.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cymro
I would say you have a good chance of going through.
They are a useful team but not earth shattering. If Linfield had of drawn them, I would be very confident.
I could tell you better next saturday after Linfield play TNS though.
Derry did really well last season, but I think their European juggernaut has just ground to a halt with this draw.
A new manager in time for the first leg might keep it respectable.
I think that draw is a decent draw for Derry, they should come through that tie quite comfortably. They will get hammered by Shakhtar if they go through but just to play them will give some much experience.
Drogheda, getting the easiest team in the hat, that is a easy win. See if they can out score the National Team in San Marino.
Pats have a game that could go any way, Shelbourne should have knocked them out last year in the Intertoto and Pats have a chance if they have some decent form.
Who are Drogs and Pats playing?
It hasn't been mentioned on the thread i don't think.
Are you for real? Thats a very tough draw indeedQuote:
Originally Posted by TheBoss
St. pats play Odense and Drogheda play Libertas