What goes around comes around - I recall a Laois player doing the exact same thing after scoring to Tyrone last yearQuote:
Originally Posted by Lim till i die
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What goes around comes around - I recall a Laois player doing the exact same thing after scoring to Tyrone last yearQuote:
Originally Posted by Lim till i die
Monaghan did very well, at least they knocked 6 bells out of Tyrone.
The ref did well to keep the lid on tight and no sending offs.
I don't know about beating Donegal, they have got a bit of wind now
but I'd predict Donegal won't end the game with 15 players.
Very poor defensive performance by the Dubs in spite of the margin of victory, Paul Casey was particularly brutal. Need to step it up a notch in the next round.
We got the worst draw possible. Id fancy having at least a chance of beating any of the other three losing provisional finalists but we have no hope in hell against cork.
Donegal wern't tested in the slightest against us on Sat.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
We were pathetic, if it wasn't for Gary Connaughton (ex ATFC) it would
have been an even bigger embarrasment. Saved a peno inside the opening
30 seconds and made some top class saves including catching 2 certain points!
Both sending offs were 2nd yellow so the lads will back for the Mons game
Donegal weren't great, Ref was brutal ... but we were worse :eek:
At least our Hurlers won :D
we were very unlucky and it was disappointing the end result,but we'll do it against Donegal! sam maguire is comeing to Monaghan this year lads!!
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Originally Posted by paul_oshea
funny, i usually call it the ga myself!:)
you would hardly call it football now would you?
By the way............it was shocking to see laois give up with 20 minutes to go, there were only 6 points in it, my god what a let down
Dublin are still rubbish and i would have every confidence in Kerry, Cork or Tyrone in murdering them
Saw Tyrone for the first time yesterday, very impressed, controlled the tempo of the game, and their defence is rock solid, and fair play to monagahn for making a game of it
I don't know about that. We have run Kerry and Tyrone close in recent years, and our main failing over the past 5 yearsor so--the lack of a consistent free taker--seems to have been addressed. Kerry and Tyrone are still the teams to beat, and I wouldn't be particularly confident against either team, but I doubt we'd make it easy for either.Quote:
Originally Posted by bennocelt
Leinster football is muck again this year and I had to laugh at the Dubs rubbing it into the Laois lads yesterday.
The game was desperately poor with awful marking and abysmal shooting (Laois particularly, but Jayo managed at least 3 wides to the same side of the posts).
Whilst Whelan and Vaughn played well for the Dubs both of them are notorious for blowing hot and cold and I doubt if they get beyond a semi-final again this year.
The standard in Ulster has dropped a notch or two and whilst Armagh were hard to watch, the province does miss their competitiveness.
Thus far Cork (admittedly purely based on one game against Kerry), Kerry and Tyrone are miles ahead of the rest.
Laois were very bad losers yeterday. THey only through a few digs when the game was over. If it was Meath the fighting would have started much earlier and they would have rattled the Dubs when it mattered but instead they only had the balls to do it when the game was over. Their supporters were the greatest whingers, getting all upset because a few fans were shouting Cheerio to them. They would not last ****ing time and a football match.
It can't now be a Dublin v Kerry final.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
The draw for the semi finals is that the winner of Connaught (Sligo or the qualifier) plays the winner of Ulster (Tyrone or the qualifier) in the first semi on 19th August and the winner of Munster (Kerry or the qualifer) plays the winner of Leinster (Dublin or the qualifer) on 26th August.
Dont think many would think that Tyrone's defence is rock solid. Their full back line is the weakest part of their team and were exposed several times yesterday under the high ball, particularly by Freeman and Corey when he moved up from full back. It was poor finishing by Monaghan that cost them the game in the end. Corey missed 2 great goal chances, one of which was a great save by Devine.Quote:
Originally Posted by bennocelt
Tyrone have great forwards and Sean Kavanagh is probably the best footballer in Ireland, he is certainly the best midfielder, but Monaghan showed yesterday they are vulnerable. You have to wonder when a team like Tyrone is eight points ahead why they did not put it away more convincingly that they did. Maybe they are not as good as many of us thought.
Some good games all right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rovers fan
The only problem with the way the GAA has structured the hurling is that Cork could still win the all-Ireland even though they have lost 2 games. I just hope Waterford can beat them again, but I have a horrible feeling that Cork will be in Croke Park again on 2nd September.
1st time cork and Louth have crossed paths since 1957 AFAIK in championship.
What do people think of the draw?
Good draw for us. Would have prefered to have drawn Meath due to the history between the sides. I just hope Cork wont get complacent as I'm sure a lot of the unknowledgeable cork public will rubbish Louth. They seem to have recovered well since their Leinster championship loss. Of the 6 that left the panel since that game, how many of them started?
Aghada are threatening to pull Kieran O Connor and Pierce O Neill out of the Cork panel for the Louth game due to the Cork County board refusing to move their hurling championship game scheduled to be played the day after the Louth game.
superhoops i didnt think that structure was in place, i remember it being drafted in after we beat galway in 2001 con final and then they came back to beat us in the quarters because of an open draw......and then the bastids went on and won the all-ireland ( though im sure we wouldn't have been able so fair play :) ) but i thought it was gone again this year.
Where did you get that info from? It might well be so, but AFAIA the QF are an open draw with the one exception that Provincial champions cannot meet the team they beat in their provincial final.Quote:
Originally Posted by Superhoops
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Originally Posted by Roadend
Yes but that was on a smaller pitch(made even smaller:mad::mad:). with the size of croke park and the speed of the galway forwards no matter how physical the kilkenny backs are they wont stop galway in full flow. i dont think kilkenny are a particularly physical team anyway
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Originally Posted by geysir
provinsial champions cant play each other. its a provincial chamion vs a qualifier. info at www.gaa.ie
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Originally Posted by paul_oshea
According to the GAA, that's how the semi-finals are. See here (Look for fixtures on 19th and 26th August)Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
For the quarter finals the provincial winners cannot be drawn against a team they have already beaten. For example:
- if Laois beat Derry and/or Meath beat Galway, then Dublin cannot be drawn against either of them.
- if Galway beat Meath, then Sligo cannot be drawn against Galway.
- if Cork beat Louth, then Kerry cannot be drawn against Cork
- Tyrone cannot be drawn against Monaghan or Donegal.
You missed their captain throwing 2 digs at Shane Ryan in the first half.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
Didn't catch any games yesterday, though glad to see ourselves still have a chance of winning something.
I've noticed that the Ulster teams seem very strong this year. IIC, Monaghan, Tyrone, Derry and Donegal are still in it, yeah? I know Mayo have been dire this year but Derry seemed to brush them aside with ease.
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Originally Posted by superfrank
dont think any of them re capable of getting to the final. donegal have flattered to deceive, monaghan arent a great team, tyrone not as good as they used to be. derry are the best of the lot imo.
Didn't Longford play Westmeath both in the Championship and then in the Qualifiers this year? I thought that couldn't happen anymore.
As far as i know all 7 were involved against Wexford. Something was rotten in the Louth camp. Happened half way through the the league. We were playing great stuff for the first few games then were rubbish with players that didnt seem interested for the last games. We carried that on into the championship and it remained there until the 7 players withdrew. Last couple of games there was a great hunger about the team some of the players really putting their bodies on the line for the county. The young players that have come in have done an unbelievable job, playing way better then the senior players they replaced. I cant see us beating you but if the cork team comes out complacent we may give you a bit of a shock. Most of our team are in their very early 20s so it definitely looks good for the future.Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie
Yep, they knocked us out at the 1st round of Leinster but then we beatQuote:
Originally Posted by monutdfc
them in the 1st qualifier game.
As long as the Dubs don't win it...... I couldn't stand the thought of Whelan having an All Ireland medal.
Kerry-Tyrone final would be a good way to close the championship.
If Donegal get into gear they'll do well. I think Tyrone are good too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rovers fan
Look, I know it's embarrassing to have roots there but I wouldn't go that far.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Magicme
Thanks for the clarification. it is pretty much pre-determined as it always use to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Superhoops
Still I think that there is a bit more openess in the draw for the QF. I think that Dublin can still meet Meath and Tyrone can still meet Donegal. It is only the losing prov. finalists that can't be drawn against the team that beat them in the prov. final.The GAA site doesn't give much away, information is given only on a desperate need to know basis.
I share Shakermakers sentiments,
Tyrone are the only team ATM who have a serious chance to dethrone Kerry.
and you know why that is.....Quote:
The GAA site doesn't give much away, information is given only a desperate need to know basis.
You are right. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
I checked with Croke Park earlier today and they confirmed the latest and final version. I suggested they put something on their website for clarification and they appear to have added a paragraph here, (the second NB under the Quarter Final section).
RTE have just added a much more comprehensive explanation on their website here.
superhoops, were ye chatting? i thought it was an open draw, kerry v dublin final can occur.Quote:
For 2007, the draw will take place with the provincial winners (Dublin, Kerry, Sligo and Tyrone in one bowl) and the third round qualifier winners (Cork or Louth, Galway or Meath, Laois or Meath and Donegal or Monaghan in the other).
The draw is open with one exception - teams that met in the provincial final cannot face each other again in the quarter-final.
You mean, I was right ;)
it would be great to see Monaghan getting the Sam as they never have, would be excellent to see it, but me dont think they will, probably just ginxed it now, anyhow i reckon either Kerry or Tyrone to go home with sam maguire!!:ball: finger's crossed for monaghan tho, their not that bad!!:D
Would that be a new experience Paul? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
Whereas Superhoops and myself had a respectable draw you are still missing the gist of it.
Bank Of Ireland SFC Semi-Finals
Sunday 19 August (Sligo v qualifier) v (Tyrone v qualifier)
Sunday 26 August (Kerry v qualifier) v (Dublin v qualifier)
Dublin and Kerry cannot meet in the final.
that should be j instead of g.Quote:
probably just ginxed it now
I dont understand if its an open draw geysir, how they cant, but ill take your word for it....is that from the GAA site?
if they have a completely open draw then it should by rights be possible for dublin to meet kerry in the final.....
I thought you would be the last one to correct spelling or grammer:)
It's easy to see from the RTE site that Superhoops already provided the link for
http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2007/0718/draw.html?gaa
Provincial champions are seeded in the QF draw
so it's not a completly open draw.
"The pairings for the All Ireland semi-final are preordained with the Sligo v qualifier and Tyrone v qualifier on one side of the draw -and Kerry v qualifier and Dublin v qualifier on the other."
Kernan steps down as Armagh bainisteoir. No surprise really.
I'd expect a few of the team to follow him...
Geysir, help me out here!Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
Unless I have totally misunderstood the draw there are only two pairings that cannot play in the All-Ireland Final:
Dublin cannot play Kerry
Tyrone cannot play Sligo
All other pairings of the teams left in the draw are possible? Is that right? :confused:
You have it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Superhoops
I only mentioned that Dublin and Kerry couldn't play in the final because that was our starting point.
Only the winners of their respective sides of the draw can meet in the final.
RTE (feckers) are not showing the triple x rated Donegal V Monaghan, instead they are showing Derry V spineless Laois.