i reckon that it could have been in the shape of a sphere to they completly turned him round in the shape of a sphere :DQuote:
a sphere tackle is something one does on a dance floor circa 2am
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i reckon that it could have been in the shape of a sphere to they completly turned him round in the shape of a sphere :DQuote:
a sphere tackle is something one does on a dance floor circa 2am
I think we should have two threads for the Rugby World Cup, one specifc to Ireland and one for the rest of the games. I cant wait for it to start.:)
[QUOTE=OneRedArmy;748701]I think you are referring to a "spear" tackle (a sphere tackle is something one does on a dance floor circa 2am). And that wasn't a spear tackle, a spear tackle involves being driven, with force into the ground headfirst. BOD's was on his back. The only reason it was marginal was because he was nowhere near the ball.QUOTE]
http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?im...%3D1%26hl%3Den
if that wasn't a spear (sorry I was typing quick this morning and didn't spot my error) tackle I don't know what is. As you can see from the picture he was going head/front first. He might have ended up on his back at the end but that's probably because he rolled over. Every media outlet and rugby writer reported it as a spear tackle and BOD describes it as that in his book as well.
There's footage of the 'tackle' here. Skip to near the end, O'Driscoll clearly lands on his head.
They didn't drop him though, my memory must be a little hazy.
I'm blocked at work :mad: probably for the best though!Quote:
Originally Posted by Schumi
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Originally Posted by shakermaker1982
Does this work?
I'm still blocked Schumi but cheers anyway. I'll have a look when I get on web at home this weekend.
The spear originated in rugby league, I'll drag up some proper spears from Youtube over the weekend and post.....
nancy boys etc :D
Having a question is one thing, it's a cheap shot to use it after the fact whenQuote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
nothing was mentioned here before the game and there were opportunities to do so, then slate the decision to play Bayonne as astounding and call EOS's decision making a shambles.
Rugby is a contact sport so players need to be match fit. The alternative is to tear lumps out of each other in full contact training... Ireland probably have two of the toughest teams in the their group in Argentina & France so a scrap was to some extent required.
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Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
Absolute rubbish. Don't bother dragging up some neanderthal RL because it does nothing for your case. You don't need to know jack about rugby or play the sport to see that they did was ridiculous. If I saw it done on the field there would be reprecussions. Without wanting to be too melodramatic, he was lucky to get away with a dislocated shoulder. That was appaling
It's all academic anyway.
Tom Humphreys will publish an interview with BOD just before the tournament, O’Sullivan will get upset and BOD will direct a 5 minute volley of abuse to O’Sullivan before storming out / being sent home saying “you can stick your World Cup up your ******”. Bertie will try and intervene but BOD will refuse to apologise when pressed by Tommy Gorman and he will subsequently will claim anti-Dublin bias at the Munster-ccentric IRFU. 5 years later he will go on to manage Sunderland RFC which will have been bought by Keith Wood and some publican friends.
does anyone know if the Connaught v South Africa game is going to be televised?
Setanta Ireland Live.Quote:
Originally Posted by Real ale Madrid
I'm siding with BOD. Who's with me?? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
A bit more than you I'd say. I've played Munster Schools, Munster Junior Cup and played Senior rugby in Limerick during the 90's.Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
In modern rugby guys no longer go out to deliberately take guys out like Tewahata did the other night. That crap was supposed to be left behind pre-1995 before professionalism. I have no problem with genuine injuries. I do have a problem playing a game where mindless violence and some journeyman decides to make a name for himself are on the agenda, which they always were by playing a French club side in France, pre world cup.
And you tell me to get a grip?:confused::rolleyes:
My point wasn't about the wrongdoing (obvious that it was a serious officence) but your ridiculous point thatQuote:
Originally Posted by joeSoap
Just because BOD got a belt in the gob they will all go out like scaredy cats? That is completely nonsensical and you know it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by joeSoap
He isn't the first or won't be the last to suffer similar foul play (off the top of my head I can remember Duncan McRae v O'Gara, O'Gara's choking last year and various stamping incidents). But it hasn't stopped Ireland going on to better performances!
Professional rugby has reduced the incidence of serious foul play but hasn't eradicated it.
Also, I agree that the Bayonne game wasn't ideally planned by the IRFU, it smacks (pardon the pun) of a dawning realisation that most of the other top northern hemisphere nations had a stronger warm-up schedule and they sought to arrange a match in a panic.
As for the wisdom of playing French opposition and the conspiracy theories around that,
a)He was hit by a Kiwi; and
b)Having been to Bayonne a few times, its not really in their nature to help the French national side. They are proudly Basque as a rugby club and as a people.
PS in answer to your question, I also played schools cup, universities and senior rugby.
It's not nonsensical. What it did was further heighten awareness in the camp as to how important certain individuals are and I never said they'd go out like scaredy cats...I said that at the back of their minds will be getting hit or injured and if you have that mentality the probability of it is greater...Big difference !Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
O'Gara v McRae was a Lions Tour, not a World Cup and he was only a peripheral player on it. Anyway I fail to see how this sort of treatment inspires 'better performances'.Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
By and large it has. Especially at International rugby and top level ERC games. Fines, suspensions and TMO's have seriously reduced incidents in todays game.Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
He was hit by a journeyman trying to make a name for himself. No other reason. And as for the French conspiracy theory, did you read Richard Dourthe's interview before the match?Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
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Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
That validates your opinion on spear tackling? Interesting
No, it answered joe soaps question.Quote:
Originally Posted by Soko
onered, he never asked ye if ye played ;)
you felt the need to tell him!!
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Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
Its good to know you've played enough rugby to have a valid opinion
Read the last few pages of the thread again.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
I think you'll find you're wrong.
That point was raised solely in the context of an opinion that O'Driscoll getting a slap in the gob would somehow make the Irish team more fearful/less confident against Italy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Soko
That to me sounded like the view of someone who hadn't played rugby as I did and still do, find it absolutely preposterous. Joe confirmed that he had played a lot of rugby and stands by his point.....that makes me think he was a piano tuner rather than a piano lifter (to use Neil Francis vernacular) :D;) but no matter, we'll agree to differ.
As for spear tackling, I was a 6 foot 5 inch 20 stone secondrow and didn't get spear tackled much, so my playing experience didn't bring much to bear in terms of that point.
Hope that clears it up for you both....
6ft, 18 stone prop with fat hands actually...not much tuning going on there.Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
Wow, this is a new way to attack the poster and not the post on both your parts. I really don't care who started it but it is time to end the one-upmanship on both your parts.
I'll bring it back on topic then so :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Aberdonian Stu
Just heard Eddie O'Sullivan say on Off the Ball that Shane Horgan remains his back-up centre. When will he learn that Horgan is a world class wing and a poor centre.
The upside of Horgan's injury is that it will hopefully give Trimble a wonderful chance on Friday to show his worth.
Also very worrying about Wallace's injury. We don't have a lot of ball carriers in the pack and he will be sorely missed.
I was going to say "love-in", but you know those rugby playing types and what they get up to stu ;)Quote:
Wow, this is a new way to attack the poster and not the post on both your parts. I really don't care who started it but it is time to end the one-upmanship on both your parts.
You've obviously never been trapped in the 'inner-sanctum' on a Sunday afternoon in January in a very cold, muddy backwater in Limerick with some animal trying to relieve you of your baby-makers...some 'love-in' there.:DQuote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
Yeah, yeah joe, now let us please get back on topic.
But I didn't start it...honest....:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Aberdonian Stu
Anyway. I predict a demolition job on the Italians. Somewhere in the region of 50+ points. Dempsey to score the first try.
I'd be happy with a good performance and no more injuries!!!!
I think everyone would. But a few players are trying to stake claims on starting spots now that O'Driscoll, Horgan and posibly Wallace and Stringer will miss games, so I expect a big score.
I hope Trimble does well tonight, big chance for him to prove that he is a capable replacement at number 13. Fingers crossed we don't need him much in that position there during the world cup.
Agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by shakermaker1982
If Stringer isn't fit I think its a golden opportunity missed to give Redden a full game. He at least deserves a chance to prove himself, as I think he's certainly got the potential to be the best scrum-half we've got.
I'd go along with that, I've never been impressed with Boss in an Ireland shirtQuote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
For the hair alone, Boss should be not only kicked out of the squad, but out of the country too
Reddan is a class act. He made Matt Dawsons mind up fro him about retirement two years ago and has been progressing ever since in a very goos Wasps side.Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
O'Sullivan likes the slower, more indecisive, oft bad-decision making headless chicken that is Isaac Boss.
Listening to Newstalk interview of Neil Best last night. He was commenting on his own glass jaw suggesting he would "go down like the Belgrano..." if punched there. :rolleyes:
If the Argentinians here that he'll probably have moire than his jaw broken next month.
Boss is too slow, if he worked on that aspect of his game he wouldn't be a bad number 9. At that level your backs need quick ball to do maximum damage. Unfortunately for Boss by the time he collects the ball, has a look round, flicks his hair, has another look he has allowed the oppositions defence to get back into position..... frustrating.