I won't hold my breath on that one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bald Student
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I won't hold my breath on that one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bald Student
it wont be dealt with..i promise you thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Schumi
not a hope of anything happening, 100% certain of that! yer man was a bit of a muppet it has to be said, i dont condone the bottles being thrown, it was totally stupid and should never happen!! i was right in front of the fella wit his top off and he waas trying to get by the lady steward and shouting 'do you wanna go' at the rovers fan(s)
A list of ground regulations are in the programme.
Drinking in the ground
Directing foul and abusive language at individuals
Failing to adhere to directions of a steward
These came out at the meeting afterwards.And ye are supposed to be the educated ones.
In the first five minutes, you said? Don't think the above stand.
Ground regulation 8 says "Any person who fails to comply with the instructions from a steward may be ejected from the ground", which I presume is the reguation which you allege we broke. You can't actually break the above regulation, therefore we didn't break that either.
You don't refer to your lie that we had a bagful of cans either.
I assume you were one of the stewards then? How do you respond to the inept stewarding at the match? How are the stewards going to respons to the formal complaint made against three of them? How do the stewards justify standing and watching as yer man in the Celtic top deliberately started looking for trouble during half time?
Our club has acted appropriately and swiftly. I've yet to see any such action from Sligo, whose fans (with one or two exceptions) and stewards insist on taking the moral upper ground.
I don't know if Sligo hire private stewards but they seemed to be volunteer fans. Some of them were as animated as your average fan on the touchline with matters regarding the field of play. Such recruitment policy lends to unobjective stewarding. The Carlisle in Bray suffers from the same problem.
All are volunteers.Security people are on contract.Most of them have been F.A.I trained by mccluskey.6 UCD FANS CAUSED MORE TROUBLE THAN 250 DERRY FANS.A BIT OF MANNERS IS ALL THAT IS NEEDED.
they are volunteers, id say we cant afford a private firm..Quote:
Originally Posted by Poor Student
im 16 and they wanted me to steward at the derry match!even knowing my age!:eek: :rolleyes:
There were more than six of us.Quote:
Originally Posted by bomber82290
Care to address my issues and stop dodging things?
Again, the one UCD fan who caused trouble has been dealt with. What are Sligo going to do about their trouble makers?
A somewhat selective use of quotation marks.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
There was 8 UCD fans in the singing section and more UCD fans in the other stand. I was in the group of 8 and I didn't violate a single one of the rules you stated.Quote:
Originally Posted by bomber82290
If the money isn't there the money isn't there but you're going to have poor stewarding. I'll repeat again, their sheer laziness and lethargy resulted in the second incident taking place. I don't condone his behaviour and he was rightly chastised. However, they knew it was coming and passed the buck onto the next steward and next steward until he was down the other end of the stand and trouble flared up.
The reaction on here by some is way over the top. One muppet takes off his shirt and makes threats at the Rovers singing section (laughable more than anything). Another idiot reacts and pegs a plastic bottle at him. Countless posts over nothing, really petty stuff.
Bring your own stewards next time if you feel the Rovers volunteers arent up to yer standards.
You're right; good spot. Changed. Just looking for consistency and acknowledgement is all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bald Student
im not trying to be funny here right, serious question for the ucd lads... how many stewards at a game would ye have?Quote:
Originally Posted by red bellied
would 4 or 5 be enough?
or is it campus security?
They're private. You can hire them if you like.Quote:
Originally Posted by red bellied
Never seen many more than the 4 or 5 you mention; more for games like Rovers and Bohs.Quote:
Originally Posted by SligoBrewer
I've seen them at other events, so they'd be hired for the evening.
Have no clue to be honest but they're private, not campus security. When we play the likes of Bohs and Rovers there's usually a bigger presence and a Garda presence. I met one of them on the way into a match once, he couldn't find Belfield Park and I showed him the way. Chatting to him he told me that he didn't give a toss about the football. You need stewards who aren't really concerned with what's going on the park and have no leanings towards any sets of fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by SligoBrewer
I was right at the entrance to the Blue stand and from what I saw was a Sligo Rovers fan calling the UCD fan "four eyes" and other abusive terms and then seen an empty plastic bottle been thrown at the UCD fan. Then the UCD fan approached the two stewards at the entrance to the blue stand and they brought him over to the side and spoke to him and the other UCD fan with him(who was let go back to watch the game).
Some of the stewards in the Showgies leave a lot to be desired, really bad, just sit down and watch the game for free. Others then are grand and do their job.
Two Of Your Supporters Caused Trouble At The Gate When They Wouldnt Pay The Entrance.cans Of Alcohol In A Bag Are Called A Bag Of Cans.there Was One Fan Thrown Out At Ireland Vs Slovakia Game Last Week Out Of 72,000 So Sounds About Right For Ucd.
Why thank you. I didn't know that.Quote:
Originally Posted by bomber82290
We've noted that the cans weren't in a bag though. We've noted that three rules were not broken in the first five minutes of the game, as you claimed. I didn't see or hear of any trouble at the gate such as you mentioned.
Are you going to answer my questions on the standard of the Sligo stewarding?
Also, turn off the caps lock.
They were looking to pay student price but didn't have student ID and were just trying to talk the ticket woman into allowing them to pay student price. To call that trouble is completely over the top and reduces your credibility.Quote:
Originally Posted by bomber82290
Only if there's nothing else in it. If I have two cans of beer in my bag along with books and other stuff it's hardly a bag of cans. Regardless, I don't think the two cans found in the ground (or at least the ones in our area) were in a bag.Quote:
cans Of Alcohol In A Bag Are Called A Bag Of Cans.
This doesn't make any sense, you should probably take your finger out of your nose.Quote:
there Was One Fan Thrown Out At Ireland Vs Slovakia Game Last Week Out Of 72,000 So Sounds About Right For Ucd.
schumi, can we lock this thread and/or throw the rubbish into rubbish?
Leave it open, I think it's fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
I agree, but I wonder what the more level headed punters like Student Mullet and Schumi think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bald Student
Do the maths, you are the students. 1/72,000 at Croke Park versus 1/15 UCD fans get thrown out of football matches. If you come to games to cause trouble, don't bother. We don't need the money that much. Summerhill College students in Sligo have no ID cards but if you forget to bring yours and still want to get in at student rate, it is your mistake.
I hope Summerhill College is ashamed of its English teachers.Quote:
Originally Posted by bomber82290
Someone misbehaving doesn't mean the rest of us can't expect decent, nay even half-assed stewarding, or criticise opposition fans for hypocritically accepting the same behaviour from their own that they agree was wrong from one of ours.
why were you bringin books to a football match anyway? thats just wrong!Quote:
Originally Posted by Schumi
Four hour bus journey there and back maybe?
:confused:
Do you have to pass some sort of basic intelligence exam to be a steward? (Seriously)
No not in recent times.F.A.I trained stewards have to pass an exam on health and safety, crowd control ,fire safety(handling of flares),some first aid.Personality is something you learn yourself but you give what you receive.Cop-on is learnt by your mistakes of which i trust your man has learnt from his trip to the showgrounds.
And has the Sligo fan learned?
And have the inept Sligo stewards learned?
Were you one of the stewards watching as a Sligo "fan" set on on of our fans?
Are you ever going to get around to answering the criticism of the stewards beyond "Oh, they have FAI training"?
No i wasn't that side of the ground but i know who was and it will be brought up and dealt with.I hope the sligo fan has learned and i will be told who he was as well.You had a good steward over that side but you abused him as well so he had to move as not to cause any more friction.
I don't recall the steward being abused. I recall the linesman being cursed at - shock horror as this happens at a football match! - and I recall the steward giving out to us for this and one or two other chants, and I recall the same steward not being enjoying our "Steward's not happy" chant. If that's how thin his skin is, though, he's not fit to be a steward.
I also don't recall the stewards being particularly good, seeing as they failed to deal with the incident at half-time, are the subject of a formal complaint and have been criticised by two senior stewards at the game.
Quick English lesson for you. The word 'have' indicates the present tense. If I had been referring to my bag at the match, I would have saidQuote:
Originally Posted by feo123
I was referring to a hypothetical bag with hypothetical books and cansQuote:
If I had two cans of beer in my bag along with books and other stuff it's hardly a bag of cans.
Which one? The fat guy who said he'd throw us out if we swore again or the guy with his finger up his nose? I don't think the other two moved for the whole game.Quote:
Originally Posted by bomber82290
dont want an english lesson, thanks for the offer though.....this is a football forum just to let you know, not a maths problems revision site 'if i had books and cans' etc. it's also not a english exam...so ye can all quit with the s**t about grammer and spelling and the like!Quote:
Originally Posted by Schumi
3 words...... get over it!!
If you can't post in a sensible, readable manner, please **** off.Quote:
Originally Posted by feo123
You call this post sensible the steward asked you to tone it down.Stewards have to stay at their post they are assigned to.At the end of the day you go to a match to watch football and enjoy it.Like i said before if you can't do that don't bother turning up we don't need you.If you and your mates just want to get drunk and abuse people stay in Dublin you would be at home there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Schumi
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Originally Posted by bomber82290
So you're saying now the stewards weren't doing their jobs properly?Quote:
Originally Posted by bomber82290
The abuse was hardly more than at your standard football match. You really would need to get a thicker skin if "Steward's not happy!" insulted you.
Not really, the first part was more a joke than anything else. I'm not the one on someone else's forum acting the tit though. The second part is completely serious, whichever of those stewards was the 'good one' didn't do much to show it.Quote:
Originally Posted by bomber82290
Tone what down? We said nothing above or beyond what you'd hear at any football matchQuote:
the steward asked you to tone it down.
Even when they see a home fan come over to away fans trying to start a fight? That's rubbish and you know it. Your stewards took the easy option of trying to annoy us rather than do anything about home fans trying to cause trouble.Quote:
Stewards have to stay at their post they are assigned to.
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At the end of the day you go to a match to watch football and enjoy it.
This is precisely the sort of attitude that the stewards in front of us had. '****ing Dublin ****s, they're all thugs, we'll show them' It's not good enough and your club needs to do something to ensure proper stewarding as the attitude of these guys took from the enjoyment of the game quite apart from what happened down the other end.Quote:
If you and your mates just want to get drunk and abuse people stay in Dublin you would be at home there.
Were you there ,sounds like you were.Steward was swapped with another position.Time to put this one to bed.Mistakes were made on both sides both can learn.Stewards got spat in the face last year at other dublin clubs games.I don't think a bit of name calling is going to disturb a steward to move away,do you??????????Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu