Anybody who wants a club to fold is not a real football fan...
This league needs as many teams as it can get
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Anybody who wants a club to fold is not a real football fan...
This league needs as many teams as it can get
Bitter rivalry is part and parcel of being a football fan.
It's what has made some of the Dublin derbies so memorable.
I can understand fans of other Dublin clubs not shedding a tear over Shels.
That one line alone just destroyed what shreds of credibility were clinging to your 40 or 50 previous posts in this thread.
Anyway, we're in, youse aren't. That'll teach youse to go scoring last minute winners against us. What a day for paybacks - we get Shels' place in a money-spinning tournament, we annoy the hell out of Sligo, anyone else need their karma sorted out? :D
Any club who has cheated every other team in the league by assembling a squad they could not afford and in doing so denied other clubs of their players and forced clubs to offer higher wages in an attempt to compete doesn't deserve the sympathy of those other clubs.
There are some Shels fans I sympathise for....I wish they would get off their arse and do something though rather than be caught in the headlights as they are now.
It'll be a sad, sad day for the LoI if Shels aren't around to be slaughtered and gloated at next season.
Im a Bohs fan, not a Shels fan or a football fan. Ollie Byrne gets slated every time he threatens or takes legal action to get his/Shels own way when there is a contentious issue but when they are about to vanish off the face of the earth everybody starts crying about it.
If Shels didnt exist over the last few years, or if they lived within their means then Cork or Derry would have won the titles and would possibly have made inroads in Europe
If Shels go out of business, then so be it. The brought it upon themselves, end of. Nobody forced them to spend themselves into €12,230,000 worth of debt and it will be criminal if they arent in the First Division at best for the next 5 years.
I think I'd pack in eL football, if City ever fold.
Don't think I could ever invest so much time and emotion in another club.
After 4 posts, he is not very closet anymore.
As for your all wishing Shels will go out of business, well the feasting on others misery will only lead to indigestion.
I don't want to see your club go out of business, I want it to be taken over by the fans and run properly
No excuses, no sympathy. Bye bye Shels-it's a tight marketplace out there and one less competit.r for future football support in the capital is welcome.
And please spare us any guff about history or heritage. not one reasoned, impassioned supporters led initiative to even open a reasoned debate on the tenure of oily to the general shels support base .
Totop it all off it looks like ollie defrauded and/or reneged on agreements negotiaited with the corpo regarding the terms by which he was allowed to exchange his sporting amenity sub-lease (AFA the corpo is concerned the Donnelly company name is still on the deeds) for cash for a new ground of some description. I am outraged by this as an ordinary citizen, not as an pernicious EL aficionado.
In the immortal words of Dee Dee Ramone-GLAD TO SEE YOU GO GO GO GO GOODBYE!
I am a big believer in Karma. What goes around comes around & for Shelbourne payback its time.
Ollie/Shelbourne fans should have kown what was coming. There was no way the squad's wage bill they have had for the last few years acould have even come close matching their match night/sponsorship income but hey lets live the dream, champions league here we come.
Maybe Bohs could play shels in a pre-season friendly. That would guarantee a big turn out. We could have our own SSC.
The Save Shelbourne Classic: Shelbourne (aka Alan Moore) v Bohemians.
We could probably loan you a few players for the night as well as the club more than likely won't enough fans over 18 to make up the numbers.
Ooooh - do I get to adjudicate here too? :p
For what it's worth, I was told (way before any of this blew up) by an FAI official that the rules concerning Setanta and European quailfication differed with regards the Cup runners-up spot - yes, Pat's would get in Europe as Cup runners-up if Derry won the double, but they wouldn't get the Setanta. Ditto the League Cup (although as Alan/Tommy pointed out, UCD were f***ed over last year as the decision was made as late as possible to benefit Shels).
On Shels, I'm amazed they've pulled out of what is pretty much free money. I can only assume that they've jumped before they were pushed (on licence grounds), and that maybe there's going to be more announcements concerning their licence soon?
Pure speculation though.
I don't know if the FAI are any more reliable than Fintan - they both say what suits them. However, the FAI do make the rules, which puts them at an advantage...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
I can fully understand where you are coming from mate but being merely an interested observer from a distance I do not get the same sense of rivalry and depth of feeling that you guys have. I can appreciate what you are saying though as there was a similar situation up here with Coleraine and to a lesser extent Ards, both who were living beyond their means, enticing players from clubs and in Ards case even selling their ground to do so, but both failing to get any success with Ards rapidly heading towards oblivion and still homeless. However in both situations I felt sorry for the genuine supporters who do not make such decisions, merely go along week in week out to support their team.
This whole episode makes me feel like the kid in the Fast Show sketch who jumped around shouting "Brilliaaaaannnttt" at the top of his voice.
The whole Sligo v Pats issue doesn`t really interest me, but if past behaviour is an accurate barometer, the rulebook probably had nothing to do with the decision.
So is this the official, lets all hope Shels die thread? We've loads of them on the Pats MB, but then we've more reason than most to...
In that case, then I hope they don't die. I don't want them in Europe next season and if there were irregularities with their licencing application then I want them relegated, but that would be in their own interests anyway. Shels is a real club, not a franchise, and they have given me some great games of football to watch over the years.
Best of luck to Pats, we in the west know how great it feels to be "invited" into a competition !!!!!! :D
According to the star this morning, shels have also now withdrawn from the champions league and are going to volunteer to be demoted to the 1st division, if so that means the blues will automatically take their spot in the premiere division, if so justice at last and F**k Delaney and the FAI.
http://www.rte.ie/sport/2007/0131/shelbourne.html
Shels set to withdraw from Champions League
No real meat to the headline though
Its strongly rumoured in Dublin football circles. From what I hear the highest level Shels could possibly play at next season is First division.
Absolutely no chance of playing in Europe
Waterford promoted instead of Dundalk, Joe Duffy will be busy this afternoon with Dundalk fans ;)