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Blackburn could be an option!
reckon the new Blackburn owners have someone high profile already lined up (Jol?) to take over. Makes more sense with the transfer window about to open, the new manager can immediately set about building a squad
Allardyce's approach to football is quite agricultural, big blokes only and long balls forward. Hughton tends to be a bit more creative and if he took over maybe the likes of Doran might get a look in as presently due to his size and his position as a winger, he has not been given a chance.
Considering hes not that long out of the Irish set up and would know a few of the Irish lads reasonably well, id like to see him draft in a few of our lads to whatever club he heads to next. We can do with another supporter of Irish talent ala McCarthy and Keane.
the more i think of it, the more unsure i am that the new Indian owners of Blackburn Rovers were looking at a name like Hughton's to lead Rovers forward. In fact, does anyone else feel that Hughton might be caught in a strange position that despite what he has done with Newcastle, he has not yet really proved himself over a long time and, as such, a lot of the better teams in the Premiership wouldnt risk taking a punt on him yet? I think the Ireland managers position would be ideal for him.
Possibly, but the job won't be available for a year at least. The FAI are not going to sack Trapattoni, to avoid paying off his contract.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
i know that. I just stated that at this stage of his career, the Irish job would be ideal for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
At this stage of his career?
International football is 'usually' a job for the highly experienced I would say. Wouldn't a job in the championship be better for his career at this stage if he cannot secure a premiership job.
its just my opinion. I think Mick McCarthy made the switch to the Irish job with a similar level and length of management/coaching experience. He did very well in the job and he subsequently did very well because of that.
True, Milwall was his only management job pre Ireland (4 years per Wiki) which suggests he had a little more experience than Chris has at present in management (Though Chris would have far more coaching experience at this stage than Mick did, I guess). Mick took 3 campaigns before he qualified for a tournament. If Trap, leaves at this end of this contract without qualifying for EURO12 - Im not sure I could cope without out us qualifying for a tournament for another 2 or 3 campaigns with a relatively rookie manager.
I do hope he picks up a good club job though and builds on his good experience gained to date.
was it 3 campaigns before he qualified? Im surprised by that. Thinking about it though, i suppose he qualified on his third campaign. WC98, Euro2000 and then got to WC02.
Anyway, the main point of my original post was not that he should be the next Irish manager, just that that i think Chris is caught in a strange sort of no-mans land and that i would be surprised if a premiership club took a punt on him. Its not through any fault of his, just circumstances more than anything. And i could very easily and quickly be proven wrong.
He's basically in the same position as Roy Keane was when he walked out on Sunderland. The only difference between Hughton and Keane is obviously Keane had a hugely distinctive playing career which makes him a big name, even if he hasn't achieved a whole lot in football management. The second time around is a lot harder, especially as Chris would already have known all the players he was working with in Newcastle having been a coach there before-hand.
I rate him and think he looks like he could be a solid manager, I would have to agree with Stu though — I'd be surprised to see a Premier League team take a punt on him right now. A championship side looks a lot more likely, and I hope he manages to land a job there and do a great job again. I would prefer to see him at West Ham / Blackburn / any other Premier League vacancy but I think I'll have to keep dreaming.
We will fail to qualify for Euro 2012 and Hughton will get the Ireland job after that.
Anyone want to quote this in a year's time?
Plus 20 years managerial experience at Tottenham!Quote:
Originally Posted by Serb
I cant find the quote anywhere, but I remember during one of Hughtons caretakers stints at tottenham him saying that he was a coach and not a manager and what he enjoyed doing and wanted to do was coach players.
It was a while ago and his success at Newcastle may have changed his mind but I wouldnt be surprised if he started coaching again.
I think he'll go in as Tardelli's number 2 and keep whatever club job he has at that time.
I thought I remembered him saying that myself so I took a look around to see if I could find the quote. I found an article from 2003 while he was assisting David Pleat (who was caretaker of Spurs after Glenn Hoddle got sacked) where he said the following:Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle_Joe
I guess he has had designs on becoming a manager for a while after all.Quote:
"At some stage I want to be a manager in my own right but at this moment in time I want to be first-team coach here and assistant manager with the Republic."
I mentioned this already, but for me a team like Wigan would be ideal for Hughton. Whelan appointed Martinez from the Championship and he has been given scope to build his own team, albeit not a great one. Hughton has proved himself good at picking up an okay team and building a competitive unit. The players at Wigan remind me a bit of Newcastle some developing youngsters and an international contingent. I think too that Whelan unlike Ashley is loyal to his manager. Therefore, Martinez will probably last at least until the end of the season and a review will occur then.
Apparently just about to take the West Brom job....
Roy Hodgson named new manager of West BromQuote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
Houghton was on the brink of taking over, but negotiations regarding bonus payments fell through, scuppering the deal.
Somehow, I don't think we'll be hearing from the morality brigade who were calling Robbie Keane a greedy prīck when his Birmingham move fell through.
Future Ireland manager I hope.
Big difference. Hughton has the next twenty years to be a manager. Robbie has perhaps three or four years left as a top level footballer, probably less.Quote:
Originally Posted by Serb
Linked with the available post at Birmingham: http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...987181,00.html
Was talk about him linking up with Martin Jol at Fulham (He's worked with him previously) but its now likely (or perhaps even confirmed) that Jol is bringing his Number Two with him.
it looks like the possible "problem" i identified last December has become a reality.
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In fact, does anyone else feel that Hughton might be caught in a strange position that despite what he has done with Newcastle, he has not yet really proved himself over a long time and, as such, a lot of the better teams in the Premiership wouldnt risk taking a punt on him yet?
Given his relatively short managerial career I think upper-level Championship/lower level Premiership should be the target. May have to settle for mid-championship ultimately though.
Update on the vacant job at Birmingham. Would be a good opportunity for him!
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news...cle746788.html
Looks good:Quote:
Originally Posted by gastric
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...medium=twitterQuote:
Skysports.com understands Chris Hughton has won the race to be Birmingham's new manager and should put pen to paper on Wednesday.
Hughton is close to tying up a deal to become Alex McLeish's replacement at St Andrews with terms close to being agreed on a 12-month rolling contract.
great move for Hughton and thoroughly deserved.
He won't know himself. A club which seems to be pretty harmonious and with some money to spend, how will he cope!
He will have to rebuild almost a new team as Birmingham are looking to sell their best players and releasing a lot of players as well. A real challenge but one I expect him to win ie get Birmingham back into the Premiership in one season. Very under rated manager IMO.
Cant wait to see how he does, would love to see him pass Newcastle on his way up in a seasons time. With Leon Best on board as the Championships top marksman.
Strangely enough Crafty it wasn't really Hughton who gave Best much of a chance. Pardew was the one to really give Best a go.
Seems a weird decision on Newcastle's part to want to part ways with Best though...he's got a lot of promise. Not many young players get a hat-trick like that so soon after making their PL debut.
Best made his Premier League debut years ago when he was with Southampton.
Yes, but I think it was Hughton who brought him to Newcastle, but I could be wrong, also I suppose Andy Carrol was tough to drop. I was surprised they are happy for him to leave though, he was a bright spot in their season before the injury.Quote:
Originally Posted by irishfan86
Yeah, Best was unlucky enough to join the squad when the likes of Carroll and Lovenkrands were scoring for fun. He clearly showed once fit that he's a Premier League striker (and a prolific one at that) so it's surprising Pardew doesn't want him. Maybe there are doubts about his attitude.
Should be good having Hughton at Birmingham. With Foster probably on his way to Villa, Colin Doyle will have an opportunity to stake his claim (he already won promotion as #1 once) and Keith Fahey will be one of the senior members of the midfield next season, along with Carr at the back.
Hughton confirmed as Birmingham City manager: http://www.bcfc.com/page/News/NewsDetail/0,,10412~2379962,00.html
best of luck to chris, treated very badly at newcastle, hope he proves any doubters wrong