That is the truth of it though, he wouldn't get a look in over here. Something seriously wrong with Irish football and dont let anyone tell you differentQuote:
Originally Posted by superfrank
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That is the truth of it though, he wouldn't get a look in over here. Something seriously wrong with Irish football and dont let anyone tell you differentQuote:
Originally Posted by superfrank
Breaking News:
Roy Keane & Sunderland have come in with late bid to match the Fulham deal. Keane has also said he doesn't have a problem loaning O'Donovan back to City for the remainder of the current season...
i hope he chooses sunderland, id trust keano to look after him better and give him a chance. how could he possibly say no to a fellow corkman eh?
I'd say he should go to Fulham, Sunderland have 5 strikers (6 if you count Yorke) and though one would likely be sold, O'Donovan wouldn't get much time there. Fulham have McBride who is old and is really just a poacher so that leaves Collins John, Healy, and Kamara to fight with and I'd guess Collins John may be sold (he was nearly sold last year to Watford if I recall correctly)Quote:
Originally Posted by ofjames
Roy has changed his mind and decided he wants Sunderland to sign O'Donovan from Cork.
http://foot.ie/showthread.php?t=49946&page=7Quote:
Originally Posted by Philly
Unless Sunderland offer more money I think Fulham would be best as Sanchez has been chasing him a while now whereas Keane seems to be acting on a whim.
What colour jersey does he want to be relegated in, reckon he will go to Sunderland if they bid for him.
kdjac
I think Sunderland have probably made their offer now & have already spoken to O'Donovan.Quote:
Originally Posted by kdjaC
I can never remember so much interest & official bids for an eL player in my lifetime. I feel the way is being paved or the first €1m eL player as every club is looking for the next Doyle. A lot of course will depend on how O'Donovan & other recent transfers perform.
Its hard to know if many players with Premiership potential in the league but certainly plenty of Championship standard.
Well Sunderland have to top 800k so reckon this is the 1st million transfer.
Cork anyone lined up deadline is coming?
kdjac
Well thats based on add ons. Would prefer a bigger initial fee tbh and not leave things to hoping...Quote:
Originally Posted by kdjaC
Hope so but we're skeptical....well i am anyway. Only a few days left. We're hearing soundbites of looking to bring in 3-4 players but lets just say il be very pleasantly surprised if it happens :(Quote:
Originally Posted by kdjaC
Unfortunately the rumour is now there may be a problem with Roy being loaned back under FAI rules so there may be no deal at all.....
From the buying clubs point its 800k regardless and with Quinny being the ELs godfather he would have no problems paying a million.
Some oddness on friday a mate was coming to the game from town and on the quays he met a cork lad with an bit of an english accent looking for what bus to get to richer, as they travelled to the game on the bus the guy said he was going to look at 2 players for Sunderland as he was their new irish scout Quigley and hopefully Roy if he came on.
Cheap bastid using the buses :D
kdjac
If Sunderland want O'Donovan they should increase Fulhams offer.Cork should reject their offer as Fulham got their first.
Firstly Id take whichever offer is better financially for the club, then, if both were equal, Id leave it up to Roy.Quote:
Originally Posted by jorge
Dont forget we could reject Sunderlands offer only for Roy to decide he really wants to go their and sign a pre-contract with them leaving us with nothing.......I cant see him doing that but he has the right to make the decision imo if the offers are the same
IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
According to the Independent today there is a rule that if an EL player goes abroad then he can't be loaned back for at least 8 weeks. Can anyone confirm that?
I would guess the Indo have been sniffing around the Cork City forum & probably nicked the story from there.Quote:
Originally Posted by stampp
I believe this rule also caught out Derek Coughlan about 5 years ago when he went on trial at Luton & when he came back could not play for City for 6-8 weeks.
I just read on eleven-a-side that Roy's rejected Fulham so it's Sunderland all the way now. Looks like Cork will be stuck holding their money til November now.
Hopefully we can get still get some decent money + addons & keep Roy for the remainder of the season otherwise Roy Keanes quotes about treating eL teams with respect will be as hollow as... (please submit your own Saipon joke here)Quote:
Originally Posted by superfrank
In fairness Pete why on earth should Sunderland lend him back to Cork, particularly when its against EL rules? You can't have your cake and eat it!Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
Cork played a dangerous game letting O'Donovan get so close to the end of his contract, I hope it works out okay for you.
If he was a Derry player I'd take the money and run straight to the bank.
Can't believe Cork though they could just get him back on loan straight away. They've officially taken overr from pats as the worst club in ireland for registering players....
Just so long as we remember to register the post we should be okay though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Its easy for other clubs to criticise as I don't see Premiership clubs queuing up to take their players away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
O'Donovan knew clubs queuing up so him so he would not sign a new contract.
Quinn & Keane talk a PR game about respecting eL clubs but they seem to be two faced & just looking out for number one. I am not surprised by this but they can't say in public that they won't be exploiting eL clubs & then in private do the opposite.
I don't believe O'Donovan will be sold if it cannot be guaranteed he can play for Cork City for the remainder of the season.
Pigheadedness and financial suicide all mixed into one.Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
Lennox appears to generally be quite level headed financially (getting rid of Dolan being the prime example) so I'd be surprised if he took this option.
Unless O'Donovan knows the location of buried treasure, selling him now is surely the best option?
PS Of course Keane and Quinn are looking out for themselves. Their barstool extraordinaire investors clearly don't care about the EL.
The way I see it Cork have two options now: Cash in on O'Donovan now or wait til the end of the seson and take the €240k.
It's pretty clear the whole loan thing can't work out.
Bad for Cork if they are going to sell now. That will drive down the price as there's only one team he'll sign for.Quote:
Originally Posted by superfrank
All eL fans know this but the Dodgy-Duo were last week spinning the media the line that they not here to exploit the eL :(Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
I know rules are rules but I thought me signed up the FAI League so could remove such idiotic rules. Its very common for large clubs (e.g. Real Madrid) to buy young players but loan them back to their existing club for 12 months & they don't have to wait for 2 months. :mad:
I will reserve judgement on Sunderland saga for now but signs not good. Our chairman apparently had a public spat at Sunderland yesterday for speaking to O'Donovan before they received permission from CCFC. This may be legal as he in last 6 months of his contract (not sure about this as I thought was different for u-23 players) but again sharp practice after comments last week.
Worst argument ever put forward here? A bit defensive Pete?Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
I've no problem with ye selling your players, it was the ridiculous way you forgot to check the rules to see whether he could be loaned back to you
My understanding of that rule was that it applied if the player played in a foreign league but the rule could have changed this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by stampp
Besides all the squabbling, what is the latest.
ROD staying or going???
Going. Deal to be done in the next 24-48 hours apparently.......
And City score a total of 6 goals for the rest of the season
He's staying :)
Full story on Redfm shortly.
Screw Sunderland and the money.
Delighted!
Great stuff.
Rico still making out that it will be a transfer and not a pre-contract.:confused:
Yes which is confusing. Was in the Echo that Roy would not be leaving as a free agent in November.
Also now a statement on official site saying negotiations are ongoing.
Way too confusing....but he better actually be staying this time. Theres only so much of this is he/isnt he I can take
Red FM saying we'll hang onto his registration, while he's under Sunderland contract til the end of the season.
I'd say there's some sort of deal with Red FM whereby when there's a story out about City, a new titbit of info comes out every hour on the radio.
I am confused... :confused:
if we cant get roy back on loan, they can always give us someone else. murphy would be an adequate replacement, probably.
I think Murphy will be a 1st team regular at Sunderland.Quote:
Originally Posted by GavinZac
Stokes or Connolly would be a poor replacement.
Roy O donovan initially signed a 6 mths contract in Feb on the day Rico arrived with Liam Murphy( They played a preseason match that day in Garryduff).When the 6mths contract was up ,he signed a 2 year contract,that means his contract is up in September.So does that mean he will join Sunderland in September but City have said they will hold on to his registration ,until the end of the season.The maximum compensation will be approx 220,000 euro.Can the club hold on to his registration until the end of the season ?Can he play for city after Sept if he does not sign again for city.He can train with Sunderland from sept and play from them when we pass over the registration,is this correct?
His contract is definitely not up til NovemberQuote:
Originally Posted by manager