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25/08/2009, 3:44 PM
Brendan 82

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Originally Posted by Umberside

They'v done brilliantly to keep a clean sheet against Balckburn and Wolves :rolleyes:

They have, its the Premier league. Clean sheets are very difficult to grind out
25/08/2009, 3:47 PM
Umberside

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Originally Posted by Brendan 82

They have, its the Premier league. Clean sheets are very difficult to grind out

How much pressure have they been under against Blackburn and Wolves? It's been pretty much attack for them in both games.
25/08/2009, 3:51 PM
DmanDmythDledge

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Originally Posted by Umberside

How much pressure have they been under against Blackburn and Wolves? It's been pretty much attack for them in both games.

To further bring this thread off-topic: :)

Blackburn vs Man City
Possession: 46%-54%
Shots on target: 9-5
Shots off target: 8-3

Man City vs Wolves
Possession: 65%-35%
Shots on target: 11-2
Shots off target: 5-8

So the Blackburn game wasn't exactly the stroll in the park you are making it out to be.
25/08/2009, 3:53 PM
Umberside

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Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge

To further bring this thread off-topic: :)

Blackburn vs Man City
Possession: 46%-54%
Shots on target: 9-5
Shots off target: 8-3

Man City vs Wolves
Possession: 65%-35%
Shots on target: 11-2
Shots off target: 5-8

So the Blackburn game wasn't exactly the stroll in the park you are making it out to be.

Don't know why this thread has changed into a Man City defence thread, considering St Ledger was never moving to Eastlands in the first place :rolleyes:
25/08/2009, 3:55 PM
tetsujin1979

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Originally Posted by Umberside

How much pressure have they been under against Blackburn and Wolves? It's been pretty much attack for them in both games.

According to ESPN's stats section for those games
5 shots on target by Blackburn: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/gamecas...=stats&cc=5739
2 shots on target by Sunderland: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/gamecas...=stats&cc=5739
25/08/2009, 3:57 PM
Umberside

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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

According to ESPN's stats section for those games
5 shots on target by Blackburn: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/gamecas...=stats&cc=5739
2 shots on target by Sunderland: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/gamecas...=stats&cc=5739

I can guarantee Sunderland have had no shots on target against Man City, simple because they haven't played them ;)
25/08/2009, 3:57 PM
Brendan 82

Don't forget they needed a crossbar against Wolves, would have been great for Keogh if that had gone in btw
25/08/2009, 4:00 PM
tetsujin1979

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Originally Posted by Umberside

I can guarantee Sunderland have had no shots on target against Man City, simple because they haven't played them ;)

sorry, Wolves
25/08/2009, 4:01 PM
Umberside

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Originally Posted by Brendan 82

Don't forget they needed a crossbar against Wolves, would have been great for Keogh if that had gone in btw

That only proves the fragility of the Man City defence, which is what I've been talking about for the last half an hour with you lads :eek:
25/08/2009, 4:09 PM
Brendan 82

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Originally Posted by Umberside

That only proves the fragility of the Man City defence, which is what I've been talking about for the last half an hour with you lads :eek:

It proves that clean sheets are very difficult to grind out in the Premier league; which, as clearly evidenced by my posts, is all I am saying. Not only must you play well, you need a bit of luck too. Making it doubly difficult. I think their defense has played well, Toure and Dunne were excellent in my opinion against Andy Keogh, who looked a real handful. Doyle also took some containing when he came on.
25/08/2009, 4:11 PM
Umberside

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Originally Posted by Brendan 82

It proves that clean sheets are very difficult to grind out in the Premier league; which, as clearly evidenced by my posts, is all I am saying. Not only must you play well, you need a bit of luck too. Making it doubly difficult. I think their defense has played well, Toure and Dunne were excellent in my opinion against Andy Keogh, who looked a real handful. Doyle also took some containing when he came on.

At the end of the day it's impossible to judge a defence when they've only played two teams destined for a relegation battle.
25/08/2009, 4:17 PM
Brendan 82

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Originally Posted by Umberside

At the end of the day it's impossible to judge a defence when they've only played two teams destined for a relegation battle.

Didn't stop you from judging them:

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Originally Posted by Umberside

Because of Man City's poor defence Dunne is a valuable player and would certainly be worth more than �5 million.
25/08/2009, 4:43 PM
Umberside

Evidence that Man City have a poor defence is backed up by lasts season's woeful defence, whereas it's hard to say they've a good defence because they kept clean sheets against Blackburn and Wolves.
25/08/2009, 4:48 PM
Brendan 82

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Originally Posted by Umberside

Evidence that Man City have a poor defence is backed up by lasts season's woeful defence, whereas it's hard to say they've a good defence because they kept clean sheets against Blackburn and Wolves.

That "sentence" makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. You've talked yourself into a corner, take your licks and jog on son
25/08/2009, 4:50 PM
Umberside

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Originally Posted by Brendan 82

That "sentence" makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. You've talked yourself into a corner, take your licks and jog on son

I agree I have talked myself down here, but the main point I was trying to make shouldn't be discarded.
25/08/2009, 4:58 PM
Brendan 82

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Originally Posted by Umberside

I agree I have talked myself down here, but the main point I was trying to make shouldn't be discarded.

Was your main point that Man City's defence is shaky enough to ensure they need Dunne?

As we both said, it is too early to make a judgment on their defence as a whole. Though I would agree that they need Dunne, but that is only because I rate Dunne. I reckon any club with Dunne on their books ought to keep, and play, him.
25/08/2009, 5:02 PM
Umberside

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Originally Posted by Brendan 82

Was your main point that Man City's defence is shaky enough to ensure they need Dunne?

As we both said, it is too early to make a judgment on their defence as a whole. Though I would agree that they need Dunne, but that is only because I rate Dunne. I reckon any club with Dunne on their books ought to keep, and play, him.

Exactly what I meant :)
25/08/2009, 5:04 PM
Brendan 82

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Originally Posted by Umberside

Exactly what I meant :)

Good point
25/08/2009, 5:09 PM
Umberside

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Originally Posted by Brendan 82

That "sentence" makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. You've talked yourself into a corner, take your licks and jog on son

Just a matter of time before you get a thanks form DmanDmythDledge for that post ;)
25/08/2009, 5:12 PM
Brendan 82

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Originally Posted by Umberside

Just a matter of time before you get a thanks form DmanDmythDledge for that post ;)

Ah whatever I don't care, I just post what I think. On another note, why do you think Hughes is so keen to replace Dunne? I mean, is Lescott any better like? I dunno
25/08/2009, 5:24 PM
Umberside

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Originally Posted by Brendan 82

On another note, why do you think Hughes is so keen to replace Dunne? I mean, is Lescott any better like? I dunno

I don't think he wants to replace him, he just wants more competition for the defence, like he has with the attack. When he's got that amount of money who could blame him.
25/08/2009, 5:36 PM
Brendan 82

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Originally Posted by Umberside

I don't think he wants to replace him, he just wants more competition for the defence, like he has with the attack. When he's got that amount of money who could blame him.

True that
25/08/2009, 5:46 PM
Umberside

If Dunne stays Man City have a good chance of challenging the top four but I can't see them actually staying in a Champions League place.
25/08/2009, 5:52 PM
Brendan 82

I just hope the Saint stays away from Everton. They should be arrested for that jersey. You simply can't have a good season wearing that garb. The players look embarrassed while wearing it. It really is the ugliest soccer jersey I have ever seen
25/08/2009, 5:58 PM
Umberside

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Originally Posted by Brendan 82

I just hope the Saint stays away from Everton. They should be arrested for that jersey. You simply can't have a good season wearing that garb. The players look embarrassed while wearing it. It really is the ugliest soccer jersey I have ever seen

Interestingly Everton have changed their home kit every year since 2001. Last year's was definitely the best one.

To be serious though Everton would be a good place for St Ledger.
25/08/2009, 6:07 PM
Brendan 82

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Originally Posted by Umberside

To be serious though Everton would be a good place for St Ledger.

I'd agree if it were not for the shirt. I genuinely think it will have a very negative impact on the team this season
25/08/2009, 6:13 PM
geysir

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Originally Posted by Brendan 82

True that

Have you been watching "The Wire"?
25/08/2009, 6:13 PM
Umberside

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Originally Posted by Brendan 82

I'd agree if it were not for the shirt. I genuinely think it will have a very negative impact on the team this season

There are a lot of bad shirts this year and Everton's is one of the worst.

But it's likely St Ledger is one for the future (maybe next season) so hopefully the shirt will be gone by then :)
25/08/2009, 6:46 PM
eirebhoy

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Originally Posted by Umberside

What I'm saying is their attack would get them into the top four, their defence wouldn't.

Their attack is no match for the top 4 imo.

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Originally Posted by Umberside

Evidence that Man City have a poor defence is backed up by lasts season's woeful defence, whereas it's hard to say they've a good defence because they kept clean sheets against Blackburn and Wolves.

They hadn't got Toure last season or more importantly Gareth Barry who'll play the biggest role in improving their defensive record imo.

Anyway let's hope St Ledger makes the step up this summer.
25/08/2009, 6:51 PM
Umberside

Does anyone know what the transfer fee for St Ledger will be should a deal be made?
25/08/2009, 9:42 PM
Drumcondra 69er

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Originally Posted by Brendan 82

I'd agree if it were not for the shirt. I genuinely think it will have a very negative impact on the team this season

Won the cup wearing it in 84.....

Got to love that hat on John Bailey! :D

http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/ld...-510882711.jpg

http://www.football-kit.org.uk/shirt...etro-Shirt.jpg

It is gank alright though!
26/08/2009, 12:22 AM
EastTerracer

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Originally Posted by geysir

Have you been watching "The Wire"?

I was going to ask the same question - I found myself saying "true that" in a meeting the other day and realised I better not let my TV watching cross over into real life.
27/08/2009, 8:26 AM
the doc

Brady's opinion on The Saint

http://www.lep.co.uk/pnenews/Defende...end.5593018.jp
29/08/2009, 7:50 PM
the doc

The Saint came off today, looks doubtful for Cyprus! :(

http://www.pnefc.net/page/NewsDetail...782389,00.html
29/08/2009, 8:09 PM
Colbert Report

Given

Kelly-O'Shea-Dunne-Kilbane
McGeady-Andrews-Whelan-Duff
Doyle-Keane
30/08/2009, 1:28 PM
the doc

Saint Injury!

http://www.pnefc.net/page/NewsDetail...782653,00.html

Big blow for the lad as he hopes to establish himself in the Ireland set up.
30/08/2009, 4:41 PM
Stuttgart88

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Originally Posted by Colbert Report

Given

Kelly-O'Shea-Dunne-Kilbane
McGeady-Andrews-Whelan-Duff
Doyle-Keane

If SSL is injured I'd go with that too. No Foley or McShane to complicate selection.

Teflon Don may well recommend Nolan though.
30/08/2009, 4:49 PM
shakermaker1982

I'd probably pick Nolan over Kilbane but am sure the Trap will go for Kilbane's experience. Fingers crossed for St Ledger. I thought he was excellent against Bulgaria and the occasion didn't get to him.
30/08/2009, 5:37 PM
dr_peepee

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Originally Posted by the doc

http://www.pnefc.net/page/NewsDetail...782653,00.html

Big blow for the lad as he hopes to establish himself in the Ireland set up.

True.. Snuffs out the chance of a last minute Premiership move before Tuesday too..
01/09/2009, 9:19 AM
elroy

From BBC website:

0947: News is beginning to break, this from BBC Tees: "According to our Boro mole, the Teessiders are interested in Preston centre-half Sean St. Ledger. Will keep you posted."

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