christ, what a pathetic performance:mad: :mad: :mad: ..never seen so many fans leaving early at away game..McGeady and Dunne got applauded when they departed the field..O Shea got serious booing every time he touched ball after Cyprus 5th goal.
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christ, what a pathetic performance:mad: :mad: :mad: ..never seen so many fans leaving early at away game..McGeady and Dunne got applauded when they departed the field..O Shea got serious booing every time he touched ball after Cyprus 5th goal.
The Manager takes responsibility.
Delaney must take responsibility
But the players must also take responsibility
We never really score many goals but we did not normally concede them either - good defence was always a hallmark of an Irish side
Irish Defence tonight
O'Shea's performance - a disgrace
Finnan - a disgrace
No excuse from these two
O'Brien - what can you say!
Richard Dunne - tried at least
In his failure to sort out the defence Staunton has shown his lack of experience as a manager.
Kerr - even if he was a bore - in retrospect - with these players was doing an OK job. Because everyone thinks that we are Brazil we dump him and put all our money on a rank outsider.
At this point - dumping Staunton - to replace him with who?
Who would take the job? We do not have the players.
We may not have great players but they can be organised, and they should beQuote:
Originally Posted by mistergreen
as good as say Scotland...
Where are those people who have been saying what a great player Robbie Keane is, world class some reckoned. I would not care if he played again for Ireland...
Sambu you sound like writing it from Cyprus! If so, was there any show of anger from fans towards manager or players outside the ground at the end?Quote:
Originally Posted by samabu92
Kenny - not his fault, but did little to no organisation
O'Shea - rubbish
O'Brien - at least 3 of the goals were his fault
Dunne - tried his best
Finnan - made one serious error that I can remember
Duff - worked hard but marked out of it. AGAIN
Ireland - took his goal well but did little of note after that
Kilbane - I honestly don't remember him touching the ball in the 2nd half until about the 70th minute
McGeady - worked hard, must be thinking "tonight I could have beaten France, instead I chose to lose to Cyprus"
Keane - nothing of note
Morrison - less
Lee - too late
Alan O'Brien - feel sorry for him, going to take some of the heat for this, not his fault he got called into the worst Ireland team in living memory
Douglas - did nothing to shake up the midfield.
And it's going to get worse, Holland took the foot off the gas at 4-0 because it was a friendly, the Czechs will not be so forgiving.
Why is everyone so surprised by the decline?
Ireland are now reaping the whirlwind of decades of neglect at grassroots but more especially national league level.
Difference now is that sending faxes to British clubs now full of imports from Africa etc appealing for people to declare for Ireland is not going to paper up the cracks caused by their criminal neglect and lack of vision for the game in Ireland.
The FAI have squandered the windfall they mostly accumulated in the 90s.
Just like post 1950s Irish soccer will once again be left to the hardcore while the FAI continue to majorly **** up everything they touch.
History repeating itself, this time as farce......
was there last year and that was bad,but to concede 5 goals against a team like Cyprus says it all. No excuses will do.Have not missed a home game in 20 years but seriously thinkin of giving up my tickets for weds
The north are about to draw with Denmark, and we are perilously close to being below them in the world
Fair play to them i say , at least they have a manager who has a clue.
Mistergreen:
That defence have played together many times before - why should they need sorting out? :confused:
Most of the players aren't good enough and some of those who are don't have enough pride in the jersey - they are just happy to spend their inflated premiership wages.
I really can't see how it is going to be different for any manager.:mad:
No matter how things were going, I have never before not looked forward to going to Lansdowne, but I've lost all interest in Wednesday night.
Perhaps I'll wake up shortly and discover that this has been a bad dream.
Apparently he wants a new job......
Sign him up, Sanchez would be good.
For some time now the irish team has been picked on what team you play for. If you play in the Permiership you will usually be in the squad and team.
you can write that down, was there meself, and the only thing that stopped them from being booed at halftime was the Elliot goal. I agree with the post grass roots level neglected, the current buy when ye can policy in the premiership don't help either, but as it was said earlier, organisation is key. Looks like Staunton can't manage a bowel movement, has never managed a team, and certainly can't organise.Quote:
Originally Posted by scousedub
The fai have f88ked themselves up, stuck with him, and even if they did get rid of them you'd want to be a headaball to take the job whatever the shillings they offered.
Delaney will say they are going to stick with him as he's part of the 4-8year plan,
from first 10 minutes there was anger shown..players all slaughtered except mcgeady and dunneQuote:
Originally Posted by DeNiro
Were they booed tonite? Should have been.
afaik, Andy O'Brien was booed when he was been substituted...Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bit O'Red
Stauntons Quote on RTE:-
"We`ve got to pick ourselves up and get it right"
Fair dues Scotland. Shows what a good manager can do.
(Wonder if McGeady has any regrets)
Question?
How far back does one need to go to find a WORSE result than tonight?
Yeh just saw staunton's wise words on RTE. Great philosophy indeed. Why didn't Robbie Keane do it as captain. He's probably to busy buying rounds of drinks for the lads like what was going on in Germany.
Worst night in Irish Football history. Staunton must go. Feel sorry for him as its not his fault he was appointed. Well out of his depth, farsical stuff really. Delaney is the big problem. How do you get rid of him? Headline on aertel says it all, "Irish lucky to lose 5-2 to cyprus":(
Tonight is the worst result ever for Ireland. And Cyprus' best.
Guardian:
Cyprus crush Ireland for greatest ever success
By Lakis Avraamides
NICOSIA, Oct 7 (Reuters) - Cyprus, so often the whipping boys of international soccer, handed out a hiding of their own on Saturday when they crushed Ireland 5-2 for the greatest international victory in their long history.
It was Cyprus's most emphatic victory since they began playing competitive soccer in 1960, and was achieved after going a goal behind after only eight minutes of this Euro 2008 Group D qualifier.
fair play to the worm. he put his thoughts out there prior to the game, and now the bandwagon is rolling. i did not agree with stan getting the job (he's to hard on the oul ears to listen to). get aldo in, or kevin moran, or ray houghton - someone with a pair of balls, and a bit of character. at least we know they'll give it a shot.
A great night for Irish football because it offers us chance to look at th way we do things. Maybe now the muppets in Merrion Square and the Ole heads in their green wigs and stupid hats will realise that, if we don't build the game up at home, the national squad is doomed unless the Brits do us a favour and develop our players for us.
Holland only began to progress when their domestic game was taken seriously. It's the only way forward, but who really cares enough to make it happen?
Blaming Staunton for what's been coming for years is pathetic scapegoating. Look in the mirror, you fools!
Exactly. I can't understand why they went for Staunton over any other ex-Irish player that had managerial experience. Can anyone remember did they interview anyone else. I remember they bypassed Aldridge and never asked him for interview!
If I just woke up and saw that, I'd go to the Errortel thread.......but I am wide awake for hours and it happenedQuote:
Originally Posted by popmart
Apologists for the FAI, Hand and now Staunton. Believe me there is nothing new here. I posted 2 weeks ago about Staunton and look at the reaction then. He has proven himself to be the WORST Irish manager of all time. Quite incredible. An absolute disgrace. I am sick. I don't want to hear the apologists go on about the lack of talent in the squad ( they used to state this at the end of the Hand era when we had got beaten 4-1 at home by Denmark). Staunton rsign now (which of course he won't do. Like kerr who else would give him a jo?. Sad state of affairs.
Match Stats:
Goals: Cyprus 5 Ireland 2
Shots: 23 v 11
On target: 14 v 6
It was the most humiliating, gutless ninety minutes I ever saw from Ireland. The country is embarrassed and surely is our President who was at the game. The hacks will have a field day and the FAI will have to look very seriously at the direction of the senior game. Sacking Kerr was a grave mistake and as it transpired, a fatal mistake. An overreaction to Ireland finishing fourth in the World Cup qualifiers on the basis on only one defeat to France. Kerr may have his critics but Cyprus never scored five with him in charge. As Liam Brady pointed out on The Star, the real problems lie with our domestic club underage structure.:ball:
The Curse of TV3 that haunted us during the Euro 2000 qualifying campaign has come back to haunt us!!:eek: :D
Where does one even start? Ultimately it's not Staunton's fault. He didn't appoint hinself. The buck stops with Delaney, at least on an individual level.
But it goes beyond that. Do we as a country even deserve a decent football team? We're the parasites of world football. We send our kinds abroad from a young age, depriving many of a decent education, to play football in an overrated, morally bankrupt from top to bottom league system. Like the Irish BNP councillors popping up in the East End, the moral corruption is speading. Look at the performances our 'stars' put in this evening and tell me that we haven't all been cheated.
Our media is obsessed by English football & despite its perpetual failure to make any impact on the international stage we set it up as the ultimate football showcase.
Those individuals who can afford to invest large amounts in football prefer to do so in some second rate backwater in the UK than at home. It'd probably take only about 20 of the newly rich to sell their 3rd or 4th properties to build an academy that could be the pride of any country in Europe.
This is only the start of what I'd like to say. Those of us who care deply about our team & the thousands who invest their time with **** all resources up and down the country have been cheated by those in whom we invest our faith.
I think anyone upset by tonight's result should look at himself & ask if he's part of the problem, even in only the smallest way.
Worst night I can ever recall as a football fan.
Only 1 thing to say.....Would an Eircom League 11 have lost 5-2 to Cyprus?
I'm not sure Bray would have lost 5-2 to Cyprus, and I saw them lose 4-0 to UCD last night.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Stars
chances are they would have won.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Stars
Exactly...People of Ireland should demand that these are the players who should play for our country,not League 1 wasters and reserve players.Quote:
Originally Posted by as_i_say
Indeed so Thunderblaster.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thunderblaster
That was the worst Irish performance I've seen in over 20 years.We were a disgrace tonight and some of those players should never wear an Ireland shirt again.
Staunton is plain and simply not up to the task and should be removed from his position after the Czech Republic game on Wednesday night.Maybe then we can do a proper rebuilding job with someone at the helm who is capable of doing it.
The FAI chose the cheap option in appointing Staunton and we're now paying the price for it.
I got in from work, where I didn't know the result, and looked up the score, my girlfriend said "who died" based on my reaction and not knowing what I was doing.
I think that pretty much says it all.
I don't think even Westport United would have lost 5-2 to Cyprus. Sure Cork City managed to beat Apollon Limassol, the best team on the island.
Its not Staunton's fault he's in the job. He applied for his deam job and got it.
The problem is how/why...
I find losing to Cyprus 5-2 more embarassing tbh!:oQuote:
Originally Posted by Karlos
imagine how poor paddy kenny feels,he's conceded 9 goals in 2 games for ireland now