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How did football run without The right people???? my oh my! all the people that proceeded the right people had no idea how to run football???
i take it that you are a fan of the book animal farm....
i take offence with your statement "clubs need to understand" A lot of the clubs were there before your group of right people and some how manged...
have to go now... i think that sound i hear is the sound of limerick football falling apart....
Great stuff!:DQuote:
Originally Posted by leather
What is this bloke going on about?Quote:
Originally Posted by longtimefan
stay off the drugs pal! :D
paddy please, your killing me here. reading your posts over the last few days i've gone from not being able to believe the stuff you were writing, to laughing out loud at some of it, to now pitying you in your last desperate efforts to keep control of limerick football.
Some guy asks for three divisions to be rolled into two (not a bad idea mind) but you jump "Yes i can provide that .... and and wait ... I'll throw in another few cups .... wait wait theres more, i'll make it home and away aswell ... well what do you think of that ha, give a vote will ya"
pathethic
I agree but unlike you I am not laughing because the old brigade headed by Pike Rvs, Fairview Rgs, Caherdavin, Mungret and Geraldines look like having the numbers to force a successful vote of no confidence.Quote:
Originally Posted by MitreSize5
If the readers on this site do not put pressure on thier clubs we could well have the old ****e back in charge
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Originally Posted by larrywhite
My name is not paddy yur way off there friend
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Originally Posted by barryk
LADS I KNOW THAT ALL CLUBS HAVE THEIR PROBLEMS WITH OTHER CLUBS, PART OF THE CRAIC, BUT LADS PLEASE TELL WHATEVER CLUB THAT YOU ARE INVOLVED WITH THAT THESE "RIGHT PEOPLE" DON'T GIVE A FIG ABOUT ANY OF THE CLUBS, THEY ONLY CARE ABOUT THEMSELVES. IF THE ABOVE MENTIONED BIG CLUBS GO AHEAD AND TRY AND SCREW THE NEW AND IMPROVED LDMC, IT WILL BE SHAME ON YOU !!! LET GO FWD AND NOT GO BACK TO THE DARK AGES....
BARRYK , YOU CAN REST ASSURED THAT ONE OF THE BIGGEST CLUBS IN THE PREMIER LEAGUE WONT BE BACKING THE RIGHT PEOPLE.
Hi
I have decided that answering Longtime fan would be a waste of my time as he has not asked one pertinent question since his first post (other than one about the treasurer and I cant answer that till the appeal process has expired)
But a few things need to be made clear, even if the so called "real LDMC" (I'm just waiting for the continuity LDMC to emerge) do propose a vote of No confidence in a standing committee this is no more than a bunch of people saying that there is no confidence there! there is no rule that states a committee be removed if a vote of no confidence is passed and unless each individual member is to resign there will be a committee in place. In addition if any club votes for such a motion I personally would be asking the club to explain why they held a meeting to discuss this and who or what exactly they have no confidence in. We have a whole gaggle of sideline lawyers who “advise” clubs and make a total mess of things.
So longtimefan no offence but babble away until you become constructive I for one will be ignoring your posts
Bye
big clubs caherdavin,mungret and geraldines ya right!:) :)Quote:
Originally Posted by leather
Hi Old Keeper, quick question on the website when do the fixtures after 29th November become know on the website... need to plan christmas shopping soon :)
Hi BluesboysQuote:
Originally Posted by Bluesboys
I'm afraid your information is incorrect sorry. I was voted in at the last AGM.
In relation to the clubs being asked questions.
If any club decides to put forward a motion of no confidence in the committee then every member of the committee is being called into question. This gives any member of the committee the right to question the probety of the clubs actions.
With regard to speaking out at meetings.
I am sure it was a shock to many that the committee bit back at the last AGM but that’s life, I have been involved in many organisations both local national and international and have never been to a meeting where members on the one hand say there is no accountability but on the other hand get upset when there is a response from the top table. The whole point of having an AGM is to allow the clubs an input to the league and approve the committees running of same while also allowing questions to be asked and here is the crunch ANSWERED. I will only hope that at all future AGM's there will be far more accountability for actions and far more interaction between the committee and the floor. Just to be clear on this ANY member of the league can ask questions at the AGM be they a member of the committee or a delegate from a club.
However you are correct when you say I am ONLY the PRO but I must say I am proud to be ONLY the PRO for one of the largest leagues in the country.
For information purposes only, the title is "public relations officer" this means that my job is to ensure that the committees decisions are not misrepresented in any way and that the leagues decisions & policies are presented a manner that enhances the profile of the league both locally and nationally. From your point of view this is unfortunate as if there is any misinformation then my job is to correct it, but you and all the league members can rest assured that I will do this to the best of my ability even if it means challenging people who deliberately misrepresent the truth
If you need any other matters cleared up please post or PM me and I will respond
Hi JockQuote:
Originally Posted by holycrossjock
I will have them up when the Fixtures secretary issues the dates but the second round games should be the reverse of the first round.
Hear hear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Old keeper
As you suggested Oldkeeper, we are probably better off ignoring him as he seems intent on causing trouble.
thanks your doing great PRO work :)
Hi BluesboysQuote:
Originally Posted by Bluesboys
I think he may have confused you with longtimefan!
Oops....exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Old keeper
He has no idea how a AGM needs to be run he thinks he can talk when ever he wants. Things are run a certian way for a reason and changing them serves no one only the committeeQuote:
Originally Posted by Bluesboys
Well no point in explaining to you the basics of representation then?Quote:
Originally Posted by longtimefan
The committee represents ALL of the clubs not the chosen few and any member of the committee can speak at any time on matters that are being discussed. This will benefit ALL the clubs as they will get a rounded view of any subject not the view of one or two stirrers
Now if you are not going to be constructive just start your own thread and see the response you get!
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Originally Posted by Old keeper
So unless im saying what you want I cant talk is that it.
Of course you can talkQuote:
Originally Posted by longtimefan
But we were hoping for a bit more quality and a lot less quantity
Hi Old Keeper any idea when this will be happening?Quote:
Originally Posted by Old keeper
Hi HoopsQuote:
Originally Posted by Hoops 1967
The facilitators are on board. I have been very busy for the last few weeks so any delays are down to me, but after this week we should see movement on the new look website with the stats included.
Nice one.
lads oldkeeper which is mr finnan is doin a good job dis year as it is only his first year on the ldmc
You're a regular Jessica Fletcher all the same.
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Originally Posted by Roadend
Hi
awaiting dates from the FS to put the 2nd round games up and change the website, should be done soon
Hi
As you know the LDL has no treasurer at the moment, as a result the committee are looking for nominations for the position. I would urge any of you who are members of clubs to try and make sure your clubs discuss the nomination rather than take instruction from certain quarters. The nominations need to be in by the 31st of the month in order to have a special delegate meeting to elect the new treasurer.
Hi
Some facts for your perusal
This weekend there are 19 referees available, 7 of these are doing two games each this gives us 26 games to play. there are 37 games scheduled not including games that are off due to the OT or for free weekends, so we are short 11 referees. This is the reason that games will be off over the weekend.
Dont forget it is the long weekend and refs have a life too!!!
When will the games off be known?
what is actually happening the website says games are on sunday the Star newspaper says some games on Saturday is that a miss print..
thought from last time that if there was a shortage of referees then the lower divisions will be taken into account this time. now i see that its has games on with refs but once again there are question marks beside few games in 3a , 3b, 4a and 4b.
why are we being overlooked again if it happens the same way as last time then my team will not have played a game since 1st October and there are no games scheduled for next week again.
starting to get very frustrating to keep a team together
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Agree with you there Holycrossjock. Our game has a question mark where the refs name is too so it doesnt look good.
Our A team in 1A have a game and referee down which means they will have had a game 5 weeks running.
Now I know and they know full well that they are going to win nothing yet they go into Sundays game having match practice and plenty of it.
Our B team who will challenge in 3B have played 5 games in 10 weekends (not even counting midweek) and will go into a tough game on Sunday (if its even on) without match practice as we cant even arrange friendlies thanks to the shortage of referees.
My only consolation is that the A team will be out of the FAI and the MFA in the next few weeks which means there will be no more free weekends for cups.
The main problem with no games though is training. I have noticed it for a good few years that players see that they have no game on a Sunday so they dont bother training that week. We only train once a week so if there is no game for 2 weeks running and some dont show up for one of the trainings then you are getting behind in your fitness. Its almost like playing your opening game of the season every 3 weeks. No match fitness, lack of cohesion, poor touches.
If thats how the lower leagues are going to be treated then why not just wait until April to play the rest of the games. At least then we could relax for the winter then plan another pre season and play 2 games a week when the clocks change. A lot of teams have 10 or 11 games left so that could easily be run off in 7 or 8 weeks.
By the way...its still not too late for another 3a-4b cup. Just play it on FAI/MFA cup weekends. 32 teams means that there are only 5 rounds.
Just looking at the website....
15 morning games have refs assigned. 4 afternoon games have the refs assigned. How will it be decided which 7 games will be assigned referees?
Now I know its the Bank Holiday and its quite obvious that some refs want the afternoon off but it is getting farcical. Players sit around for weeks waiting for games then expect to be playing on a Bank Holiday weekend and then the refs decide they wouldnt mind going on the lash so it means the lower leagues lose out again.
And this is WITHOUT 5 premier games.
Some teams are going to be without a game in 5/6 weeks. Thats absolutely ridiculous.
And when exactly will we know if our games are on or not? What do we tell the players at training this week?
Speaking for myself, I now only referee one match - why - simple, the level of abuse.Quote:
Originally Posted by larrywhite
The abuse suffered week in week out by referees has become intolerable, some weeks I come home and wonder why I do it, I have been called every name under the sun and sometimes even more unforgivable, my family has been abused.
Don't get me wrong, when I have a good game, there is no better feeling in the world - that is why I persist.
So back to my point, why one game, if I referee in the morning, during the afternoon match, my body becomes tired (the same as if a player plays two matches), mistakes creep in and players, coaches etc abuse even more.
Also the number of referees is dwindling each year, with no new blood going in to replace them, who was the last new referee in Limerick? Look who has left over the last few seasons Kevin O'Driscoll, Tony Markam, Neol Dunphy, Declan Earls, Joe Hannon - who has replaced them?
In five years time I can see there being no Div 3A/3B/4A/4B because there won't be enough referees to officiate the matches.
We all need to take a look at ourselves and see what we can collectively do to improve the situation - maybe Div 3A/3B/4A/4B being played on a Saturday- I don't know - but something needs to be done before its too late
Limeref
Well said, I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Limeref
I think we should be looking at playing more games on a Saturday as well as maybe even a longer break for refs on a Sunday.
So instead of a ref doing a game at 1030, and getting home at 1pm and then heading off at 1.45pm to do a 2.30pm game, maybe have some later kick offs on a Sunday, ie; 3.30 or even 4pm, just ideas, dont bite my head off.
And I know before you say it, some players will be working on Saturday, but like I said these are just ideas........
Anyone anything else to add????
You can take it that any game without a ref will be off. I will update the website on Wed evening.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roadend
The second round games wont be up on the website until I get the dates from the FS.
Well JockQuote:
Originally Posted by holycrossjock
You have every right to be angry
The Star is a missprint
The lower divisions should have been given priority and it is silly that we are concentrating games on divisions with more games played. this will change following discussions this evening.
I would urge your club to write to the committee or email myself in relation to your complaints. part of the problem is that people can hide behind the clubs silence and say that there are no complaints from the clubs, and if there are no complaints we cannot proceed to change things.
I share your frustration,
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Originally Posted by larrywhite
Please Please have your club write to the committee, It is not possible to make changes if the clubs do not request or support the changes.
You can tell the players that if there is no ref against their game the game is off.Quote:
Originally Posted by larrywhite
It is ridiculous and there is action being taken
Hi LimerefQuote:
Originally Posted by Limeref
I applaud any referee who turns up for a game (I would be responsible for my fair share of abuse over the years but i think I dont cross the line too often an will always smile and forget after the game) part of our problem in Limerick is the degree of confrontation between the different bodies responsible for soccer. we all need to work closer together and the problems can and will be worked out.
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Originally Posted by abbeyvale
Good ideas Keep them coming