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I suppose it came to fruition
I never doubted him for a minute...
Just thought i'd start a thread dedicated to Steve Finnan, What a great season he is having under Benitez at Liverpool, a real no-nonsense pro, who is looking every bit the classy Fullback he was two years ago. Just goes to show what effects a new manager can have on a player, looked very uncertain under Houllier now he is showing his real class, I think its fair to say he should be Irelands First choice right back, after Carrs string of dodgy preformances!
Amazing to think that he almost signed for Spurs. Nunez got injured in training at the start of season and Finnan was required to stay. He has also seen off Josemi. Well done.
I couldn't agre more. Liverpools most consistent player in both the PM and CL this year. Has played well in all matches for Ireland lately even if he has been played mainly out of his favoured position. Steven Carr is a good player but his form lately for Ireland has been poor and Finnan should be first choice.
He has been fantastic.
Benitez didnt rate him at all when he took over but he got his chance after Josemi got injured/played crap and grabbed it with both hands.
He deserves to be right full for Ireland ahead of Carr who seems to be getting his game based on the player he once was a few years ago. It'll be interesting to see who Kerr plays there against the Faroes in June as Finnan will no doubt take over from the suspended Carr against Israel a few days beforehand.
There was a thread recently on another section of the site on Finnan. Everyone says the same.
I was only feet away from Finnan during the Croatia friendly & the guy looked totally class, as he usually does at full back for Ireland. Russia away he had a mare but everyone did.
I'd go as far as saying that Finnan is one of the most important members of our team. He's quality, nothing flash but you don't want flashy full-backs. I can't believe Wenger didn't want him when he was available. Not exotic enough probably.
I'm agree too,
He's having a wonderful season and he surely deserves a first-choice place in Kerr's eleven.
One more time yesterday against Juventus, a wonderful performance, concentrated on every ball around him, played without any mistake.
On that position, he's our man definitely!
I'd still like to see him have a shot on the left for us!!
did he not play for us on the left before? my ideal would be finnan on the left and carr on the right (if carr can re capture his form of pre op days )Quote:
Originally Posted by dr_peepee
played on the left against the swiss in basle. done alright but i cant see kerr dropping oshea. he seems to be one of the players he`ll alwasy pick
Put it this way: Who's been worse recently? O'Shea on the left or Carr on the right? I'd actually say Carr.
Totally agree. Carr doesnt seem to put in those riproaring runs like he used to. Whilst still obviously a quality player, he doesn't seem to be quite the same player he was before his injury that kept out of the world cupQuote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Did ye watch Carr this evening he was horendous.What a Fcuk up for Sportings last goal..School boy stuff.
He was crap all night and his error summed it up.
Graeme Souness... how long does he have left in the toon hotseat do you think?
If you didn't see it it's on again now, at 12:30am (C5) bit late but you could record if you want, Andy O'Brien comes on as sub too, don't think he had a great game either. I only had half an eye on the live match and heard some of it on the radio too but I might watch some of it again, whilst I lose a bit of money at poker :DQuote:
Originally Posted by FarBeag
Carr was pretty below par alright. Defensivly average at best, but going forward he was shocking tbh. After 75 mins Newcastle needed to score to win the tie, and Stevie had the ball fairly often, but seemed to just keep hoofing aimless balls into their box, or in most cases hitting long balls straight out of play for a goal kick to them.
Thought O'B. had an ok game, nothing special but no major howlers. Shay had a good game despite the score.
I only saw the goal highlights on the news but was O'B not at fault for the second goal? He had a chance to clear it but only sliced it across the 18 yard line to a Sporting player.Quote:
Originally Posted by cfdh_edmundo
The fact that Souness picked Bramble & Taylor ahead of him said a lot I think.
If there's any mitigation to Carr's error it was that he was under pressure to get the ball forward as quickly as possible. I'd doubt he'd have made the same error 10 mins eralier. Bad error all the same though.
The best right back in the premiership!!
Finnan full back with Carr on the wing?
I'd say Finnan at full back anyway on current form.
And now I have to be up for Liverpool in the final after being up for Duff so far! :(
fantastic performance alright
he and carragher were collosal
Finnan was fantastic tonight. Great performance.
While I don't think that Carr has played miserably over the past few months - just not up to his previous high standards - I think Finnan has been playing the better football. Does he deserve his place at right-full? Does Carr deserve to be dropped?
Finnan's performances over the past six months and especially that tonight have sparked this.
Carr!
Great game from Finnan alright, he must be pushing for Liverpool player of the season at this stage.
And to think some morons on here wrote him off last year.
Carr has gone backwards since moved to Newcastle whereas Finnan has really improved. I wouldn't have considered dropping Carr a couple of years ago but Finnan is best irish fullback.
Finnan without a question,did you see his performance to-night? He is much more consistant in his overall play than Carr.Saying this Carr is a good footballer but based on recent form he does not touch Steve Finnan.
You know what you'll get with Finnan. Not much attacking wise but as solid as a rock defensively. I'd say Finnan is first choice for us now.
Excellent performance tonight. Only Carragher was better than him. He did everything he could though Carragher just saw more of the ball.
http://actim.pa.press.net/top100_prem.shtml
Well this index backs up Finnan as first choice, #35, Carr is not in the top 100. Richard Dunne climbs to 83 from 87.
Much can depend on who else is on the wing - both played in the recent crunch qualifiers (with mixed results), I'd be relatively happy with either though on current form (which is often quoted by international managers when announcing their team), I'd go with Finnan. Don't know if it's fair to say he provides less going forward but if Reid (Andy or Stephen) was playing in front I'd probably chose Finnan.
Another selection dilema would be the availability of Stephen Kelly - he has no fear of going forward while prehaps providing more of a defensive role too... glad I'm not the manager! :cool:
Finnan has been good supporting attacks when at right back for Ireland. Remember the assist for Macca's goal against Holland? And how he changed the game when he came on against Cameroon? And the long ball up to Quinn for the equaliser against Germany.
Carr doesn't have a patch on him in any department. Maybe five years ago, but not now, not by a long shot.
what a game??? reminded me of the match against spain, even though i didnt see the game yesterday evening, from what ive read (and heard on the itv after match commentaru) he was both "ecellent" and "sublime"
Quality performance, but no surprise.
Finnan, unquestionably IMO. Not just a knee-jerk reaction to last night, I've been a big fan of Finnan's for a long time.
Carr has started his last two games at Newcastle at RHM so worth keeping an eye on...Quote:
Originally Posted by Colie
Anybody that picks Carr over Finnan now is basing their judgement on Carrs performances in the past. In the season prior to the injury that kept him out of the WC Carr was outstanding and was a better full back then than Finnan is now, even though Finnan has been excellent this season. The thing is though we need to be concerned with how they are playing now and I don't think anyone can argue against the fact that Finnan is now playing the better of the two and as such should be the 1st choice right back for Ireland.
Surely Finnan!
So using that arguement, should Dunne also be picked over O'Brien? I'd say yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie
Quote Stuttgart88....So using that arguement, should Dunne also be picked over O'Brien? I'd say yes.
On current form Dunne is the more consistant player without any question.He has got to be the most improved center back in the premership,getting MOTM in most games City play.O'Brien on the other hand is not consistant at all particulary at Newcastle but has never done anything wrong in an Irish Jeresy and has a great relation with Kenny.Saying this O'Brien is prone to mistakes and who is to say that he wont make a big one for us.Its a hard call but if its not broken why fix it.