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22/01/2007, 8:14 PM
republicofwhite

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Originally Posted by eirebhoy

Pat Dolan says Hunt and Long "honest country lads" don't fit the image to make the international team. :confused:

Thats an absolutely outrageous statement, completely nonsensical. I never knew it was the Republic Of Dublin National Team.
22/01/2007, 8:28 PM
Soper

Dolan is a man not to be listened to.
22/01/2007, 10:00 PM
blobbyblob

Dolan was being sarcastic and critical of Stauntons selections
22/01/2007, 10:21 PM
Wolfie

Quote:

Originally Posted by eirebhoy

Pat Dolan says Hunt and Long "honest country lads" don't fit the image to make the international team. :confused:

I think Staunton would be happy to describe himself in the same bracket. :rolleyes:
22/01/2007, 11:35 PM
eirebhoy

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Originally Posted by blobbyblob

Dolan was being sarcastic and critical of Stauntons selections

I think he geniunly believes being from the country has affected Hunt's international career. Why he mentioned Long I don't know.
23/01/2007, 8:11 AM
FarBeag

Maybe if you are from Waterford play now and again for Man utd and are utter s*ite then you will get away with it.
23/01/2007, 8:36 AM
Dr. Ogba

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Originally Posted by eirebhoy

I think he geniunly believes being from the country has affected Hunt's international career. Why he mentioned Long I don't know.

Surely its the fact that he only broke into the Reading first team this year and not too long ago was playing in the English third tier for Brentford that has affected his international career??
23/01/2007, 9:27 AM
NeilMcD

Yeah this sort of thilng about a Dublin bias is rubbish. Harte was in the team when he was rubbish so too O Shea. It never held back Roy Keane at all. Hunt only made his first Premiership appeartance this season against Chelsea so he can hardly be expecting a call up before then. He should be in the next squad though.
23/01/2007, 10:47 AM
noby

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Originally Posted by Tuff Paddy

Isn't Waterford a city?

He's from the county.
23/01/2007, 1:15 PM
youngirish

There are only two reasons why Dublin players dominate and have dominated Irish squads.

1. About 2 million people live in Dublin by far greater than any other county in the country.
2. Football (soccer) is by far the most popular sport in many of the larger working class areas of the city whereby it's generally the third most popular sport outside the city.

All these bias assumptions are paranoia gone mad. I wish we had a Dublin bias then maybe O'Shea and Harte as previously mentioned would have never sullied the team in the first place. Also by extension Staunton mightn't have been selected as manager.

P.S. Hunt has never been in an Ireland squad because until very recently he was playing for Reading reserves and Brentford in League 1.
23/01/2007, 1:44 PM
Donal81

A Dublin bias? Now that really is laughable.

Jonathan Douglas is the first player that I can remember coming from Monaghan and making the senior squad. This is either bias or simply reflective of how few good players have come out of Monaghan (I can't think of one other than Douglas).

Maybe there is a subtle bias at juvenile level, however, when an international scout will do the rounds of Home Farm and Cherry Orchard every weekend but will rarely venture down to see some teams playing in Wexford, for example.
27/01/2007, 8:32 PM
DmanDmythDledge

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Originally Posted by Tuff Paddy

Give me a hungry player any day of the week. In the past year we have seen no end of contented millionaires.
Wasn't it great when the Irish used to have a passion and a hunger about us?

We have been lacking someone like that on the pitch for sometime now, bar Given and Dunne.
19/06/2007, 5:17 PM
zenokelly

Greedy Hunt?

Reading ace Stephen Hunt has called on the club to give him a new improved deal.

The Republic of Ireland international is seeking parity with the rest of his team-mates after an impressive first season in the Premier League last term.

Hunt was one of the biggest successes at the Madejski Stadium last term with a number of stellar performances.

The 26-year-old only signed a two-and-half-year deal six months ago, but he believes he deserves a new contract for his outstanding form last season.

"I spoke to Steve Coppell and he understands where I am coming from," Hunt told The Mirror.

"I'm not asking for anything silly - just to earn the same as my team-mates."

I never like to see this sort of talk from a player who has really just established himself on the premiership radar and I don't want to get him too far ahead of himself.

Whether he deserves the wage increase or not, it puts him under tons of pressure to perform next season which isn't good if he wants to stay in the Reading team, especially with Convey back on his tail.

Though I am surprised to hear this from a player who in certaijn parts of the media have said that he is a true genuine good lad!
19/06/2007, 5:21 PM
Ceirtlis

Could be the work of his agent, he is setting himself up for a fall though if he doesnt go as well next season. He might have been as well off holding off for a little while longer seen as he only signed the last contract 6 months ago.
19/06/2007, 5:22 PM
bellavistaman

Dead right
19/06/2007, 5:43 PM
FarmHoop

It was always going to happen at reading, they were all happy last season but as soon as transfer talk and praise are heaped on them, money becomes the main point,
19/06/2007, 5:52 PM
finlma

He's dead right and of course he deserves to be paid the same as his team mates when he's a first team regular. Everyone gets a raise when they improve their performance - doesn't matter what industry.
19/06/2007, 7:06 PM
The Man Himself

steven hunt deserves every penny hes looking for.
he should be at least on the same money that doyle is on if not more,
id rather have hunt in my team before doyle anyday.
19/06/2007, 9:20 PM
KopKiller

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Originally Posted by The Man Himself

steven hunt deserves every penny hes looking for.
he should be at least on the same money that doyle is on if not more,
id rather have hunt in my team before doyle anyday.

Dont believe the Hype, Hunt is a good solid player ... Doyle is pure class.
19/06/2007, 9:58 PM
beautifulrock

Greedy?? thats a joke right, fair play to him
19/06/2007, 10:45 PM
co. down green

Any idea what he is on at the moment, compared to his teammates ?
19/06/2007, 11:21 PM
GavinZac

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Originally Posted by The Man Himself

id rather have hunt in my team before doyle anyday.

:confused: any reasons why?
19/06/2007, 11:41 PM
cheifo

Hunt didnt play much in their promotion season so his rise has been remarkable.Could he (and reading)suffer from the infamous second season syndrome next year?I hope not and I dont care about him asking for parity as long as he does the biz for Ireland.Doyle however is class and will bang them in.
20/06/2007, 1:02 AM
shinobi

I believe he's on around nine thousand per week which is probably below the premiership average. He's probably ensuring he gets at least one big payday considering he's well aware of the fickleness of football having being released twice in his career already.
20/06/2007, 7:06 AM
noby

I'd say half the premiership first team players from last season (or their agents) have gone in with similar requests. Just because the Irish media picked this one to run with does not make him greedy.
20/06/2007, 7:08 AM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by noby

I'd say half the premiership first team players from last season (or their agents) have gone in with similar requests. Just because the Irish media picked this one to run with does not make him greedy.

spot on
20/06/2007, 8:26 AM
reder

This is typical PL agent stuff. He does deserve parity but personally I believe Reading will struggle next season just like Wigan did this season. Dare I say it but Sunderland could be the new high flyer this season.
20/06/2007, 8:34 AM
endabob1

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Originally Posted by reder

This is typical PL agent stuff. He does deserve parity but personally I believe Reading will struggle next season just like Wigan did this season. Dare I say it but Sunderland could be the new high flyer this season.

I think Reading will struggle unless Sidwell is replaced, can't take the engine out of the car and expect the same performance.
Sunderland need to spend big imho, they bought and loaned players to get them up, different ball game now I think.
20/06/2007, 9:48 AM
youngirish

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Originally Posted by endabob1

I think Reading will struggle unless Sidwell is replaced, can't take the engine out of the car and expect the same performance.
Sunderland need to spend big imho, they bought and loaned players to get them up, different ball game now I think.

I'd be surprised if Coppell doesn't make a few shrewd signings over the next couple of months particularly now he's money from the Halford transfer. I think Reading will possibly be not as good this season as last but I still think they'll be safe from relegation. At present I'd say Fulham, Man City, Birmingham, Derby, Boro and possibly even Portsmouth will be the teams that struggle at the foot of the table in the absence of any new signings.
20/06/2007, 10:42 AM
EalingGreen

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Originally Posted by shinobi

I believe he's on around nine thousand per week which is probably below the premiership average. He's probably ensuring he gets at least one big payday considering he's well aware of the fickleness of football having being released twice in his career already.

http://sport.independent.co.uk/footb...icle357006.ece
According to a PFA survey, the average Premiership salary in the 2005-06 season was �13,000 per week.

Salaries will have increased significantly in the season just finished.

And with the massive increase in TV rights due to kick in next season, whereby the team finishing bottom of the Premiership is guaranteed a minimum �31 million a season from domestic TV rights alone (i.e. not including an equal 20th share of the overseas sales, or League Prize money), salaries are predicted to rocket next season:
http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_...102413,00.html

Considering he is 26, he has knocked around in the lower Leagues with Brentford (where he will have been on around �50-75k a year), yet he's been one of the better players in one of the Prem's better teams, I personally don't think it at all greedy of him to require simple parity with his teammates.

This is especially when you consider Reading are one of the 5 or 6 lowest paying teams in the Prem; also that one or other two Prem teams are said to be interested in Hunt. In fact, my guess is that he (or his Agent?) undersold himself when he negotiated his last extension and he's only cottoned on to it now that he's seen what others are getting.

Fair play to the guy - he'll be a long time retired.
20/06/2007, 10:42 AM
carloz

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Originally Posted by KopKiller

Dont believe the Hype, Hunt is a good solid player ... Doyle is pure class.

Come on you cant really believe this. Doyle is pure quality and wouldnt look out of place with any team in the Premiership. Hunt on the other hand is a slightyl better version of Kilbane. They both play with the same heart and determination, Hunt has a bit more skill about him though
20/06/2007, 12:47 PM
youngirish

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Originally Posted by carloz

Come on you cant really believe this. Doyle is pure quality and wouldnt look out of place with any team in the Premiership. Hunt on the other hand is a slightyl better version of Kilbane. They both play with the same heart and determination, Hunt has a bit more skill about him though

Doyle is a very skillful player. Did you ever see his goal last year I think against QPR when he performed the overhead kick? Brilliant.
20/06/2007, 1:53 PM
Stuttgart88

If Doyle was English he'd be worth 20 million now & everyone would be after him. Just look at Darren Bent FFS.

I think he could immediately improve Man United's forward line.
20/06/2007, 2:54 PM
Pablo

Kevin Doyles new contract was reportedly worth �27,500stg a week. Is that what Hunt is after i wonder?
20/06/2007, 3:09 PM
NY Hoop

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Originally Posted by youngirish

Doyle is a very skillful player. Did you ever see his goal last year I think against QPR when he performed the overhead kick? Brilliant.

No but he did score against us when he was here a few times. His last 2 goals for his country were top class. Impressed with Long as well. Hope they all earn millions.

KOH
20/06/2007, 3:37 PM
bellavistaman

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Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

If Doyle was English he'd be worth 20 million now & everyone would be after him. Just look at Darren Bent FFS..

Exactly, that is probably the biggest fact i have ever read on these threads.
20/06/2007, 3:50 PM
RogerMilla

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Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

If Doyle was English he'd be worth 20 million now & everyone would be after him. Just look at Darren Bent FFS.
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you can sing that , agree 100%
20/06/2007, 4:05 PM
NeilMcD

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Originally Posted by finlma

He's dead right and of course he deserves to be paid the same as his team mates when he's a first team regular. Everyone gets a raise when they improve their performance - doesn't matter what industry.

Not in the Civil service.
20/06/2007, 4:22 PM
paul_oshea

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If Doyle was English he'd be worth 20 million now & everyone would be after him. Just look at Darren Bent FFS.

only two things i can fault on this, the use of if and were should be used.
secondly doyle isnt as fact as bent, and may not be as strong running as bent either.

neil, thats cos the performance doesnt improve.
20/06/2007, 5:17 PM
NeilMcD

Yeah lazy shower the lot of them. !!!!!

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