Sorry for pounding you on the shoulder when the second goal went in, Derek. I kind of lost it a bit. :o
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Sorry for pounding you on the shoulder when the second goal went in, Derek. I kind of lost it a bit. :o
To all the DCFC/Shams haters. The simple fact is Dublin won tonight. If they win on Friday than they deserve it. If Shams win on Friday then they'll deserve it. Whoever wins the play-off overall deserves to be in the Premier, regardless of how many supporters they have or weather they create an atmosphere or not, FACT!:)
The only walk Rovers will be doing is a few long walks next season down to Kilkenny and up to Monaghan cause they will have no money for bus fairs in the first div:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
I can't talk about the matter any more, it is with my solicitor:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheridan
It was great, the pounding was great, the game was great, the win was great, the team saying hello after the game was great, Brendan Kennedy giving me a wave was great, the flares were great, seeing Rovers in disarray was great, the silent Rovers fans at the end was great, beating Rovers was great and I'll tell you if we pull this off it will be great and on the performance I think we are in with a shout, GREAT.
I agree with you sligoman, thats how the game works and all the bullsh!te talk does not change the result.Quote:
Originally Posted by sligoman
Don't you mean "super"? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Derek
I was tring to expand my vocabularyQuote:
Originally Posted by Sheridan
Was it wrong? Compared to our previous experiences, nut-throwing doesn't even register as disorder, never mind hooliganism.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poor Student
I also find it ridiculous that a poster here felt the need to make it an issue.Quote:
I find it ridiculous anyone felt the need to do it.
Er, yes you did. See below.Quote:
I didn't ask for clubs to be fined,
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For God's sake, we're the ones who would be fined for your fans behaviour.
There is nothing to defend, as this is not an incident. No arrests were made, because it is at best, a trivial matter. Ì'm going mad about it because, here we have a case of another club's fans looking to make a big deal about a non event regarding our fans. Longford started it, and look at the anger that has caused between them and us. You shouldn't be going down the same road.Quote:
You can't defend it, and why are you going so mad about it?
Afraid so. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by patsh
I don't think neutrals actually realise exactly how bad our team really is. We have several players playing for us who are so poor, that they wouldn't even get into a first division side. I know most of them are little older than kids, but they are really, really bad players, who can't perform relatively simple tasks such as kicking the ball, passing it to their team-mates, clearing their lines, challenge for headers, creating chances, etc, etc. Most of them are beyond improvement, in both their short and long-term development. The only thing they are able to do, is get suspended.
[QUOTE=Sheridan]In fairness, there was nothing dubious about the penalty, it was a reckless tackle. QUOTE]
o.K.;) . he certainly made the most of it. Looked like he'd been shot. Thought holding us back for 10 mins was stupid. Just gave the Rovers scum , time to run around and wait for us. As i was coming out some of them were running towards the gate with scarves over their faces. Good Garda presence, prevented any trouble. Will have to keep them in on Friday, 0n the river side. It’s a pity this type of thing goes on in the League.
Dublin City had over 100 people in Athlone last weekend, not sure but i would guess that that would beat the travelling support for a lot of eircom league sides. We had a decent crowd in the Des Kelly stand last night, albeit with a few floaters there, but i'd estimate that we had about 200/250 of our own established supporters. (hopefully more liked what they saw and will stay with the club)Quote:
Originally Posted by patsh
All we are looking for is the opportunity to grow the club, and not be put down at every opportunity.
We aren't looking to rob existing fans, we are looking to collect new eircom League fans, surely this should be the aim for every club.
Okay lets do a quick survey:Quote:
Originally Posted by mypost
Club Colours
Home Farm: Royal Blue and White
Dublin City: Sky Blue & Navy
Verdict: Different
Home Ground
Home Farm: Own Whitehall
Dublin City: Rent Whitehall
Verdict: Dublin City play out of Whitehall for a number of reasons, including its smaller so a better atmosphere, better surface, nicer bar and very importantly, its cheaper than any of the rental alternatives in Dublin.
Ethos
Home Farm: Focusing on the Schoolboy aspect of things, developing players, have a couple of junior/intermediate sides, but aren't the main focus of the club.
Dublin City: Senior Football is the priority of the club, also fielding an U-21 side.
Verdict: Completely different in its focus.
Fan Base
Home Farm: Parents and family of the players
Dublin City: A small group of enthusiastic supporters has been garnered bit by bit over the last few years. although there is probably about 10/15 people who are a hang over from the Home Farm days.
Verdict: Dublin City has attracted new supporters through its identity as a City wide club.
Reality
Home Farm are a hugely successful Schoolboy and Junior side who have a host of Internationals in their illustrious past.
Founded by Don Seery (Ronan's Father) and Brendan Menton Snr. they have collected many national titles at numerous levels, including an FAI Senior Cup.
When Home Farm decided to pull out of Senior Football, there then head of the senior set up Ronan Seery, decided that he would take on the mantle of running the club. He rented Home Farm's facility to play in, recruited a manager, players and Dublin City was born.
Yes, Dublin City and Home Farm have extremely close ties, but they are not and never where the same thing. Every Dublin City fan would love to have Home Farm's history and heritage, but we don't we are now creating our own.
In 5 seasons, we have challenged for promotion for the first three years, finally winning the title in 2003. a number of factors saw us relegated in 2004, and now we are 90 minutes away from securing our top flight status again. Not bad for a nothing club.
As a neutral last night I thoroughly enjoyed the game. DCFC were clearly the better side and deserved to win. Frankly I was very disappointed with Rovers especially having got the equaliser I expected them to push on and win the game. They were pushed back for the remainder of the game.
I still don't think this tie is over though. Tolka is hardly home advantage for DCFC and they will be heavily outnumbered supporter wise. Rovers will hardly be as bad again. DCFC looked a much better side than that which drew with Limerick a few weeks back and they may not play as well again.
Come on DCFC
MAKE ROVERS HISTORY
Won't be that big a difference now all the Pats/Bohs/Shels etc wiil jump on the bandwagonQuote:
Originally Posted by gspain
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Originally Posted by Dodge
Home Advantage or not They have scored 2 AWAY goals
Rovers need to Score 2 to stay up
anyone can get 100 fans to athlone if the club pay for the bus. 100 supporters travelling for free is hardly a boast.Quote:
Originally Posted by Breifne
and if you think there were 250 in the des kelly, you are on a different planet.
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Originally Posted by Block G Raptor
In case you haven't noticed, away goals in this tie, DO NOT COUNT. So we only need to score 1 goal to stay in the league.
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Originally Posted by mypost
I was under the Impression that they did!!
I know this was the case when bohs played cobh in 2000
but because of the fact that we scored 6 in cobh in the first leg it didn't come into the equation
No problem whatsoever with the result last night - the best team won. Or rather the only team on the pitch won but that comment is a disgrace. Barry spent most of last night in A&E in the Mater after having his ankle stamped on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheridan
KOH
agree totally no one should set out to take ut a player deliberatly.Quote:
Originally Posted by WeAreRovers
Also i think dcfc are in total control now as rovers defense is diabolical and they will have to score a minimum of 2 goals as dcfc will definty score
It is the norm these days, but in this country away goals have never decided LOI games in any competition, not even when the Cup semis were over 2 legs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Block G Raptor
It's one thing being relegated on GD, however, it would be terrible to lose a promotion/relegation spot on away goals, in a LEAGUE game.
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Originally Posted by mypost
Fair Point: It would be a shyte way to be relegated, but are penalties any better
I stand corrected so ........Check the oven and see if my humble pie is ready yet:D
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Originally Posted by Breifne
Good post. Interesting stuff in it I didn't know about. I hope we beat you on Friday but fair play you were the better team last night. I have no problem with DC. They entered the league under the rules so have as much right to be in it as any other team. If you beat us or draw on Friday you deserve promotion, end of.
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Originally Posted by Dotsy
At last a bit of sense and civility : fair play
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Originally Posted by Brendan
It wouldn't be just daft it would be down right fcuking hilariously Ironic
so much so in fact that Alanis Morisette would probarbly feel compelled to write a song about it:D :D :D
Firstly no problems with the result. Better team won on the night no complaints. We still have a chance and the fact away goals dont count is a blessing no matter how small it is.
However I have to say this If we go down on friday on the pitch we'll deserve to off the pitch we'd be a bigger loss to the premier division than CHF would be a gain for the premier division. Lads that is a fact. im dissapointed with some of the reactions of the chf fans. Ringo youve been bitter all year so im not surprised there but sheridan that comment about Barry Murphy was sickening call yourself a football fan hurry up back to tarquin. Briefne good post but no matter what it will take a long time for dcfc to be recognised as a club of their own, wheather thats a good or bad thing I dont know.
Still friday is another day. Where there's hope
KOH
JUZ
Eh, yes it was wrong. Throwing anything at opposition fans is wrong. As I said, just because you have seen worse doesn't make this right.Quote:
Originally Posted by mypost
In light of the discussion about the need for added security at our ground, given you're the only club's fans I've seen throw stuff at us in our own ground it is relevant.Quote:
Originally Posted by mypost
You're taking my post out of context. You were asking who was fined. I was alluding to the fact that this was pointless as we were fined for behaviour of Bohs fans the other week.Quote:
Originally Posted by mypost
As I say, as a Rovers fan you have lost scope. Your argument is that it needs to be of a grave or very serious magnitude before it is worth discussing. I think that in itself says something. I'm not making a big deal of it, I simply highlighted the incdicent in this discussion and you took offence to me even mentioning it.Quote:
Originally Posted by mypost
You didn't play Bohs in 2000 - you were runners-up in the league in 2000!;) Waterford-Kilkenny was 2000, Bohs-Cobh was 1999 I think. UCD played Athlone in 2000/01 which went to extra time and penalties and I remember asking about away goals during extra time and being told there wasn't any. So it looks like away goals haven't counted for the duration of the play-offs. Which, for a league which ten years ago didn't recognise goal difference, makes sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Block G Raptor
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Originally Posted by mypost
so your saying a draw over the two legs is enough for ye to stay up??
thats a more stupid suggestion than the away goals idea.
surely the game would then go to extra time/penalties?
Yes, the game goes to extra time if it's level.
Rovers can win 1-0, win on penalties, have scored one goal in the 120 minutes and stay up, which was his point.
No he said we only have to score one to stay up. Which, being hugeky pedantic, is wrong :)
Oh for ****s sake. For anyone who was at the game last night will know that we are down. Case closed. We are/were awful, diabolical and were deservedly beaten on the night by an average, hard working side.
If we stay up I'll eat Damiens hat. The 8 point deduction because of the previous boards disgraceful incompetence was the root of all this coupled with Roddy telling all and sundry that we were safe despite the players not being fit:mad:
Premier clubs enjoy CHF cos it could be a long time before we're back.
KOH
You can never truely miss something until it's gone. Trust me, after a year enduring mind-numbing, souless games against CHF they'll be praying for us to win the First Division.
BTW that suggestion of a 22 team single division doesn't seem all that hair-brained now:o
Come on lads have faith in your teamQuote:
Originally Posted by manic da hoop
It will be all the more pleasent for us if u think you are going to stay up :D
ah no but seriously I hope you do make a swift return ...............I'd say 10 years should be swift enough for me :D
It's not a suggestion, it's a highly likely proposition. Officials at 3 clubs have said it to me. At the moment only one club looks like getting a full licence next year. Although the other rumour doing the rounds is that they'll bottle it again and use Genesis as an excuse to bring it in in 2007.Quote:
Originally Posted by manic da hoop
I'd still hate to be relegated even if we did stay up on a technicality. That would be like Bohs - never relegated but re-elected a record 16 times. AFAIK they even did a 6-in-a-row around the time we were winning 6 cups on the trot.
KOH
PS Will someone get a bottle of whiskey and a loaded gun for NY Hoop...............
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Originally Posted by WeAreRovers
On the Way:D :D :D
same old rovers living in the pastQuote:
Originally Posted by WeAreRovers
face it your glory days are over and will never return
if you dont get out of the 1st straight away i really feel that the club will dissappear (and that my friend would be a sad day for Irish football.. Friday will not be )
One problem/good thing with a league ruled by self interest is that we are now self interested to pus through a structure that will keep us up.Quote:
Originally Posted by WeAreRovers
WAR, I presume you mean WE are the only club getting a license so far?
"Thomas", you know as well as I do that I would never comment on official SRFC business. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by thomas
KOH
is the technicality not the 8 point deduction?