I was reluctant to do it myself Junior, but the chances of losing out on even a single "thanks" was too much!
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I was reluctant to do it myself Junior, but the chances of losing out on even a single "thanks" was too much!
Too many on here have short memories, get off KK's back he always gives 100% so why this constant distain against him?
Out of order if you ask me!:shout:
I think that goes without saying really and is hardly necessary to mitigate any criticism offered. No one in their right mind would argue against Killer's commitment or candidacy for soundest fella in the universe and role model extraordinaire. He is currently a weakness in the team though (not singularly, mind) and has been exploited. There's nothing wrong with discussing the need to replace him imo. It's the production line of Irish Left-backs that appears to be out of order right now!
What I've always maintained is that Killer is in the team because he's more of an asset in the air, defensively and offensively in a relatively small team, than he is a liability on the deck.
I think people wildly overstate the extent to which opposition teams target Killer. Whenever Duffer and Kilbane play together we always look solid on that side. It's when McGeady or Hunt are partnered with him that we struggle and I would put a lot of that down to the defensive naivety of the wingers. Kilbane's weakness is that he can't get up and down the flank the way somebody like Cunningham (two legs intact) can.
Starting against Arsenal at left back today. Chance for him to show he can still handle a big step up.
And the answer is... he can't. Just left Bendtner (playing on the right) in far too much space for the first goal.
few interesting comments from Kilbane in an interview in the Independent today: http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...r-2516734.html
Quote:
He looks back to the Russia game and the dissatisfaction that followed and tries to explain Trapattoni's approach.
"In that game, we probably went a bit more direct. He doesn't encourage us to go direct, he just wants us to be solid, he wants us to be hard to beat. Sometimes when you're solid you're not probably near your strikers so sometimes you go long and you're not getting up in support. I think we've done that throughout his time and then through goal-kicks or whatever we can press areas and then we play some football."
He hasn't encountered a manager who spends as much time working on team shape as Trapattoni. All week they will train with that in mind, with the idea of being hard to beat always being drilled into them.
In the times today that Trap made a balls of letting Killer know that he wasnt in the Irish team. Basically KK was making plans on getting from Exeter (where Huddersfield were playing this weekend) to Dublin, his manager got a fax to say KK wasnt in the Irish team. It was only on Friday evening that KK got a text from Trap to say he wasnt included this time around. Not a way to treat one of our best servants. Considering recent events with other players, Traps man management does not appear to be up to scratch at the moment.
Also reported in the Times that Keane is not happy with the current set up and mentioned during the week that he would retire at the end of this campaign.
That's the Sunday Times?
Correct.
Very poor altogether. This guy has played what like 80 times in a row for us? Never turned down an opportunity to play for Ireland when others were begging off. I hope this isn't the last we see of him. I know you all hate him but I love his heart and think he really brings something special to the team.
Can't help but feel it's a 'damned if he does, damned if he doesn't' moment for Trap. We drastically need a replacement for Kilbane. We've known that for over two years now, and by blooding Cunningham and now Clark, Trap is addressing it. There was plenty of moaning on here when Kilbane was selected for the provisional squad.
indeed there was SF. I believe Kilbane should have either retired or been dropped after the Paris game. He clearly hasnt been up to international LB for some time. There is a right way to do things however and maybe even more of a duty if Trap is thinking of this being a permanent thing.
Probably the most generous thing that can be said right now is that the communication within the Ireland management set-up appears to be absolutely atrocious. Especially in light of Kilbane, McCarthy in recent weeks and a number of other incidents in the last 2 years - Treacy's omission/withdrawal being the most recent to spring to mind.
So if that article is right.keanes comments earlier last week could well be what he actually meant to say.
Agreed, and also to the outside world. They need an Alastair Campbell figure to tell the media what's what and to stop rumours and misunderstandings from gaining momentum. They seem to have no idea what appears to be controversial or not. It's not just McCarthy - for example, there should be some sort of quote explaining why a forward not on standby was picked over a player who was picked in the first 29, then placed on standby, then not even called up when a forward dropped out. When McCarthy was originally omitted there was no mention (until today?) that Noel King actually went to see him last week. This is just simple PR.
I'd have thought it's the FAI's job to communicate selection to the players though, not Trap's mobile phone's job. Good man management would be to explain personally why someone is omitted alright, but it shouldn't be the formal notification.
It was in the Herald last week: http://www.herald.ie/sport/soccer/mc...b-2515057.html
Quote:
"I spoke to James and he is very happy to come to Cyprus and play for us if he's fit and able," said King after including McCarthy in a 19-man squad for the away friendly, which takes place the day after the senior clash with Wales.
"Him not being in the senior squad wasn't even mentioned, he is keen to play for Ireland and that's not in doubt.
"I hope James will be able to play in Cyprus but we'll see how it goes.
"He played on Tuesday against Aston Villa, it's not clear if he'll be involved for Wigan in the Cup against Bolton at the weekend but he might be in for their league game next week."
OK, I stand corrected!
They have one.
http://www.tcd.ie/Italian/graduates1Sherrard.php
Then again, stopping misunderstandings from gaining momentum hasn't been his strong point.
Just to add to this: Both Fahey and Keogh came on tonight but wasnt even in the initial squad. Bizarre. Have no problem with Keogh not been in the initial squad because I dont think he is of international standard but Fahey has done well in recent times and shouldve been in the squad, no question.
Fahey had a game on Sunday and probably made way for McCarthy in the original squad. Keogh was brought in when Keane and Lawrence pulled out because he covers both positions.
Excellent interview with Kilbane on Newstalk earlier, touched on a number of subjects including James McCarthy, his move to Huddersfield, and the tactics against France in Paris
Interview is available on the listen back service on NewsTalk here: http://media.newstalk.ie/listenback
Scroll down to NewsTalk Sport, select Sunday 20th, part 3. The interview starts on the 33 minute mark
Good interview Tets, thanks for giving the link.
Naive interviewer, as if he never knew that journalists make up cráp and fans swallow that cráp, hook line and sinker.
Kilbane is very endearing. People especially those who now prefer rugby always go on about how soccer players are away in the clouds etc. Its nice to hear this fella speak.
He mentions being over in England as well and that which is a very fair point, that the players don't often hear whats going on back in the Old Country, but they do have family who try to keep them up to date.
It is a very fair point, especially as he is over in England.
Paul, this is what you put in your edit
"that the players don't often hear whats going on back in the Old Country, but they do have family who try to keep them up to date."
I'm pretty sure KK said something to the effect that some players are unaffected by what's written in the papers because they are over there, away from it all, but KK said he heard about the nonsense that was written about him because he has family/friends who informed him about it.
I assume that in this case some friend/family saw and informed KK that he was being used to discredit Trap's management and the gullible fans were lapping it up. Were you one of those gullible fans Paul?
If it makes you sleep easy, then yes I was.
The man is an absolute legend. He was asked by Mary Hannigan in the Irish Times about his chances of playing on Saturday and..
“It will probably be Friday before we know, so we’ll wait and see. Hopefully, I’ll be in the team – if I’m not, I’ll just be supportive of the player that’s playing in my position.”
If he was the manager? “I’d go with myself all day – I’d be captain and all!”
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...292954518.html
Anyone else realize Zinedine made the bench for Huddersfield on Sunday less than 24 hours after going the 90 against Macedonia?
Future manager of Ireland imho
Not sure whether KK will become a coach or manager or not. I sense he's a real family man so perhaps after he hangs up his boots he may call it a day with the professional - who knows.
I would however wager that once he retires, you will regularly see him at Lansdowne cheering on the BIG!!!
Anyone think he'd make a good pundit? He's a good speaker and loves to have a laugh, if he has the know how or not I'm unsure.
Damn right!
But you have to be 35 to run for president, and KK is only 34. We just need a constitutional crisis to push this year's presidential election back to the end of February.
I can see it now... President Kilbane heading in the goal from a corner that defeats England in the Euro 2012 final...
This is the criteria required
Basic age and citizenship criteria are set by the Constitution. A candidate must be an Irish citizen and have reached their 35th year on or before election day. The McAleese precedent reminds us however that there is no requirement that the candidate be born in the Republic or that they be resident here at the time of contesting.