LOI Clubs in Europe 2024
Stadium Seating Capacity
Shels, Tolka Park 4,300
St. Pats, Richmond Park 2,800
Derry, Brandywell Stadium 3,300
Shamrocks, Tallaght Stadium 10,000
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LOI Clubs in Europe 2024
Stadium Seating Capacity
Shels, Tolka Park 4,300
St. Pats, Richmond Park 2,800
Derry, Brandywell Stadium 3,300
Shamrocks, Tallaght Stadium 10,000
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For the past 20 years I always thought results in Europe were going to be the key for the LOI growing and gaining respect of the Irish public.
In the past couple of years my opinion has changed and it's now modern facilities rather than European results which hold the keys to our future.
I can now just enjoy the LOI clubs participating in Europe for what it is instead of lying to myself that some other club winning a few euro ties is somehow going to mean more people are going to show up to Galway United games.
Derry being allocated 200 tickets for the away match against Bruno's Magpies.
Stadium being used isn't the big Victoria one, it's Europa Point. It only has 770 seats, apparently, so in theory they only needed to give us 34 tickets. Bruno's get around 300 at a match normally.
I'd guess it'll be a similar story for Shels the week after us.
I've been down past the ground before, and unless things have changed, you can see into it from the street. At least that's back-up option for people.
Tolka having 4,300 seats minus the terracing sounds wrongQuote:
Originally Posted by nr637
I don’t envy you after the ticketing anxiety endured in the run up to Pats game in Luxembourg last year. The club were given two extensions to the allocation and there were mad waiting lists for tickets. Thankfully Dudelange didn’t sell out and pretty much all of the 450 or so that travelled got in. Can’t see that being an issue this year with Vaduz's ground having 5,800 seats with their average crowd last season at 1,500. I see rovers fans have been shafted with a max of 50 tickets for the game in Iceland. As annoying as it is to deal with when it affects you, it’s a brilliant sign of the health of the league’s attendances when European away allocations don’t meet the demand of our clubs at timesQuote:
Originally Posted by brendy_éire
Hi 2 Year Contract,Quote:
Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract
The The Richmond Road Stand or Main Stand has a capacity of over 1,800 seats while the opposite Riverside Stand has approximately 2,500 seating capacity since damaged seating has been repaired.
Total seating capacity so is approximately 4,300 at present.
Hope this helps and explains. :rolleyes:
That's exactly what they're going for. Better for them, and they're too cheap to hire a generator for the floodlights.Quote:
Originally Posted by oriel
https://www.derryjournal.com/sport/f...tadium-4674133
Vaduz is a grand little place and the club were extremely welcoming of us. Of course we returned the favour by losing in both legs but there you are. That was 20 bloody years ago, how is that possible?Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinho II
Though as the article notes, the early k.o. somewhat offsets the cost of the trip by the fact that a chartered jet can land and return same day, which must be a decent saving.Quote:
Originally Posted by brendy_éire
I'd imagine the club will go the day before and leave straight after the match, which is what they usually do.Quote:
Originally Posted by EalingGreen
Do think the ticket allocation isn't be anywhere near enough for the amount of away fans that seem to be going to this.
Now you mention it, UEFA likely have a rule requiring teams to arrive the day before (in case of travel delays etc) - they certainly do for international games eg when ROI played NI away in 1993, Charlton wanted the team to stay just over the border the night before (Castleblayney?), but was told they had actually to be in NI.Quote:
Originally Posted by brendy_éire
That said, the early k.o. will still avoid a two night Charter for DCFC, plus extra hotel bill etc.
You have to be in the country 24 hours before kickoff. (And like, what serious team would fly in on the morning if a game?)
Nuremore Hotel, Carrickmacross using Oriel Park, Carrickmacross Road to use the full name, for training. I met the team as a youngster after sneaking in to the ViP area at the old Dundalk Racecourse the Thursday or Friday evening before (I say sneaking in but really I just walked in brazenly) Still have the full squads autographs somewhere but they were well on the pints by 6pm or so so not sure that could be authenticated but I know thay are real! Im pretty sure the Nurmore/Oriel Park base was used a few times around that era not just for the N.I. game, Oriel may recall better?!. I remember the controversy over needing to stay in NI and Charlton being gruff about it, the lore at the time was that rooms were booked in the Europa Hotel in Belfast but were used by FAI brass and partners and the team still travelled from Dundak on the day (probably stopped in some chipper for the prematch meal.....), not sure about the veracity of this story but it is completely in line with the way things were done by Jack/FAI so who knows. They left from the Belfast hotel to Windsor.Quote:
Originally Posted by EalingGreen
Its definitely a requirement to travel the day before at the latest, but would would teams have to stay say in Lux if an available hotel is available just over the border with frictionless travel, or a pre Brexit Gib and Spanish side of the rock? Even the day before could cut it fine if there are problems with flights (Im sure they have to be chartered too), was it St Pats that there was a bit of sweating on availability of a charter plane in the days before an away tie? There have been a few significant return delays on even charter flights fpr Dundalk in the past, longer waits that Ive had on commercial flights, and did not go down well when needing to get ready for a domestic game 48 hours after European game so only one day training available..
Yep, although the issue was with getting the charter home. They got the chartered flight out no bother but in the midst of the aviation chaos in the summer of 2022 they got shafted by a late cancellation for the charter for the way home with a game against Shels due to be played on the Sunday. IIRC, the UEFA rules state that chartered flights have to be used to and from games from the Second(?) round onwards (this was a Third round game anyways). They ended up having to stay longer in Bulgaria and got the players home in dribs and drabs on public flights and afterwards UEFA & FAI accepted there was no alternative and were satisfied that every possible attempt was made to get another charterQuote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Ah yes, I remember now, Shels game postponed to much annoyance in Tolka and proven the delay was legit so FAI didnt award the walkover.
Not so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Ger Canning confirms this: "We stayed in the Irish team hotel outside Belfast overnight." - "outside" means he cannot be referring to the Europa.
https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2018...k-25-years-on/
I have a vague memory of that causing an issue for Cork City against Malmo in 2004. I think Pat Dolan wanted the team to stay in Copenhagen but they had to be in Sweden the day before the game. I may have invented that memory, or I might be mixing up some apocryphal stories.Quote:
Originally Posted by EalingGreen
Longford Town famously had to scramble to Lovech on scheduled airlines through Budapest following the charter company not being able to get the plane released. Wonder what ever happened to that baldy ***** Eamon Hickey and Emerald Hospitality. It was touch and go at one stage if they would make it to be in Bulgaria within the time limit.
Imagine what UEFA would have done, we'd probably not be here nowQuote:
Originally Posted by ltfc_2004
Anyone know when match dates are set ?
They're set already aren't they?
Rovers play on the 9th and 16th. 11th and 18th for very Derry and Shels. 25th July and 1st August for Pat's (who start in the second round)
Ok missed that, thanks Stu
Any talk of TV coverage for any of the European games?
Rovers away leg on LOITV. That is all I’ve seen so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by EatYerGreens
Random uneducated prediction time!
Games v Ireland + Iceland clubs are generally very tight, and whatever side wins often has to play very well to edge it. It'll be interesting to see what Vikingur are like, knowing nothing of the league, I imagine Breidablik were an exceptional side by Icelandic standards who Rovers really didn't treat with the respect they should of last season. I imagine they ended up not retaining the league due to playing 16 (I think?) games in Europe last season, and probably lost some good players in the off season.
I can't see Vikingur being quite as good, but neither are Rovers who seem to be declining year on year. I think Rovers could win if they learn from last season, decided to play more conservatively and ground it out, I'm thinking positive thoughts and thinking this will be Rover's final hurrah and Johnny Kenny will do something on the break.
Reckon Derry and Shelbourne should really be winning both legs at least certainly edging their way through. Think they'll all be in trouble in Round 2 if they make it. Gibraltar clubs are also in pre season, LOI clubs have a massive advantage there.
I'd give Pat's a solid shot against Vaduz, they're not bad, but they're Swiss 2nd tier and in pre season, they're wildly inconsistent from season to season in Europe, apparently lost their top scorer in the off season, hard to know but It's not the worst draw. Do it for the co efficient lads.
I think Rovers need to do the exact opposite. Ive been critical of them being too conservative in previous years, not taking games to the opposition, Bradley setting up negatively. When they had no choice but to go at teams chasing a result they showed that they could compete and beat but had left too much to do. Last year against Breidablik may have been an exception as Rovers struggled to lay a glove on them at all. They were an exceptionally good side, strong and athletic, techncally good and well organised - made Rovers look like part-timers at best who physically couldnt get close neve mind just being off their game. They did move the ball a bit quicker in spells but the Icelandics were also able to just drop, soak up a bit of pressure and then break with effect. I thought they'd have picked better results but maybe Rovers made them look very good too. For the record Dundalk dominated possession but also laboured against a well drilled and efficient side that were lethal on the break and KA werent really a top Icelandic side - I think they were strugling doestically when we played them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Acornvilla
I think like Irish football Icelandic sides that qualify can be quite different to the side that actually plays in Europe the following summer so Rovers could well be capable of winning the tie but domestic form and not having that zip in play, habit of winning, makes it a hard call in advance.
Where's our annual visiting Icelandic football cheerleader this year?
I had thought Rovers played way too openly in Iceland last time out, like they did the same in Estonia before, tried to close down and dominate sides they weren't quite able for and getting cut open, unable to adapt. They're performances that stick with me and lead me to think Bradley hasn't learned how to manage at the next level yet. I know absolutely nothing about Vikingur, so who knows, maybe that approach would work this time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
https://x.com/shelsfc/status/1809954...wt91t0p-A&s=19
Shels home game available for €10.
*Shelbourne FC is currently liaising with St Joseph’s with regards to streaming arrangements for the away leg. Updates will be provided as soon as they are received.
Any idea what Tolka Park seating capacity will be for the first leg?Quote:
Originally Posted by dundalkfc10
Richmond Road Stand 1,800 seats
Riverside Stand 2,500 seats
I haven't heard anything firm about the exact numbers permitted but I can't see every seat being used as some will probably be blocked off so I'd take a guess it's no more than 4,000Quote:
Originally Posted by nr637
Will Shels have to move to the Tallaght Stadium, if they advance further in the UEFA Conference as their ground is not up to the necessary regulation facilities! :confused:
Rovers away tomorrow. Sure, Vikingur will be a tough tie but Rovers still have it in them to go through over the 2 legs.
Up to last season their home form in Europe was excellent so they will be expecting to be strong in Tallaght. They won’t be underestimating this crowd, either, which I think they did a bit before the 1st leg last year. Also, even though they don’t say it publicly, they know the league is gone so Europe and the cup are big so they can go for it more.
The aim as usual is to still be alive going into the 2nd leg. A one goal defeat or even better a draw and they are well in it. I really do think this is a 50/50 tie.
Its all speculation and ye never know on the day but Rovers squad hasnt changed that much over the last few years so: Bratislava, showed too much respect away and lost 2-0, at home leveled the tie when they had to chase things and imo were robbed with a foul leading up to the annual LoI sucker punch goal. Teuta ended up being poorer than expected. Flora and it was lessons not learned with a conservative approach (Dundalk beat Levadia, +scaring Vitesse and with Zahibo, Nattestad and Abibi in the side, Bohs mixing it up with PAOK after beating Icelandic opposition well albeit Sligo lost to similar opposition). By comparison of Irish sides ending in the same competition and similar opposition, for the champions pathway Rovers under performed and it wasnt due to squad ability or absences but due to tactical misjudgement ie a Caulfield like approcah to playing away from home and it backfiring. Some poor luck too in fairness.Quote:
Originally Posted by Acornvilla
2023 Ludogorets away, played it conservatively, understandable, but didnt try to put any pressure on at all, at 2-0 and last 20 mins showed that they had the measure of the Bulgarians. The injury time goal that looked like it killed the tie was partially chasing a goal to keep things alive, arguablly naive, some calamity defending, but Rovers showed they could compete, when they needed to their credit at home they had a go and won but should have had a similar approach away imo.
In to the ifs and buts = they could have leveled the tie would have bar injury time goals in both legs. There was a cautious approach that looked like a lack of belief, led to a lack of composure and the late goals were due to scrambling for a result that they could well have been in control of. Shkupi should have been finished off a lot earlier in the tie too, it ended up comfprtable with Rovers own injury time goal but it was more stressful for Rovers fans than it needed to be. Ferencvaros twice is just a mismatch all day long and hard to know whether Rovers stepped up after each 1st leg or Ferenc were going through the motions. Breidablik has already been commented on but still not sure if they were as good as they looked or Rovers were very poor. ECL groups games, maybe Rovers were prioritising the league but they were lacklustre and especially away from home were well in their shell. I recall thinking have a go, its not knockout football now but it was all laboured and not at all reflective of the calibre of player in the squad. I think it was partially due to Bradley's tactical mindset and also the lack of toe to toe league run in. Its possible that there could be more fight in Rovers this season because there is an actual battle for the league. If I were a Vikingur fan, looking at seedings, league table and results over the last few years Id be thinking progression is very possible rather than just hopeful. If Jacks back in full fettle of course it will be a cake walk....
That Vaduz game is a second round tie of course, so getting a bit ahead of things there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Acornvilla
Rovers should be winning their tie but it's hard to look beyond being beaten home and away by a part-time Icelandic side last year, and having gone backwards since. The Gibraltar sides - oriel (I think it was?) made a good point about the heat out there being a factor. Maybe 2-3-1 is a solid result from the first round (Rovers to draw at home and lose away; Shels/Derry to draw away and win at home) and anything else is a bonus?
Though even that's a pretty poor set of results when you really look at it.
I think all the clubs in Europe can play at home for the first 2 rounds, then it's Tallaght. I'm almost sure I read something ages ago that Tolka passed whatever was required to do rnd 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by nr637
Shels apparently had to make the pitch narrower to meet UEFA regulations.
https://x.com/stephenkellyyyy/status/1810406562760155487?s=46
Bit of a mad one if true. I wouldn’t have thought of Tolka as being an overly wide pitch
That just sounds bizarre. I know there is a minimum width and length for pitches, but it’s the first time I’ve heard of having to make a pitch smaller. As you say Tolka wouldn’t seem to be a big pitch anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract
In what way is it getting ahead of anything. ? I know it’s not this week, but the game is fixed and Pats are in round 2. Not like they haven’t qualified for it yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Yeah it’s also strange that FAI regulations seemingly allow a pitch to be wider than UEFA's regulations doQuote:
Originally Posted by TonyD
Maybe it's the distance between the perimeter wall and the sideline?