He was a generational standout player in the LoI though. The others aren't.
On Kenny specifically, his miss from eight yards early on was a shocker too
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He was a generational standout player in the LoI though. The others aren't.
On Kenny specifically, his miss from eight yards early on was a shocker too
It's funny how the bad is always mentioned, yeah he missed a chance he was offside for anyway, but what about the run and shot the keeper made a great save from, which led to the corner which the goal was scored from.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Kenny made an excellent run and the strike was even better as he was off balance .
Fair. I think that chance was less good than the miss was bad, if that makes sense. It was a routine enough save ultimately; it could have been a better chance if he'd managed to bring the ball down better with his previous touch. He wouldn't have been off-balance for the shot of he hadn't let the ball get away.
If he was offside for the miss then that's on him too.
May sound harsh, but that's the margins at the top.
I'm not saying he's a complete donkey obviously. But they comments on the Sam Curtis thread also show a half-decent LoI player has a lot to do to show they're international standard. Byrne is possibly the only one in recent years (maybe since Crowe/Byrne) to do so
I only got to watch the 2nd half of this so can't really comment, but my biggest take away was the strength of that Chelsea team honestly, did not expect so many really established internationals to be on the pitch, the Irish senior team would have struggled. Rovers did look decent for the last 20 odd minutes when a raft of subs came, would have been nice to grab a 2nd goal. I think a degree of the substitutions were to reward people who deserved a few minutes on the big stage, Greene especially.
Got a run out against Raith. Looked to me like he was trying a bit too hard to get involved. Maeda put in a great low square ball that he didn't attack and Maeda gave him the evils. I noticed then that after Maeda scored his 3rd Kenny ran to congratulate him but Maeda blanked him, I think because he preferred to run to the assist provider, but to me it looked like the body language from Maeda wasn't great!
As you know I don't watch Celtic that much, but anytime I saw Maeda when he had the shaved head, he always looked like a scorpy kant to be fair.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Thanks for the thoughtful contribution.
Scores his first Celtic goal against Aberdeen tonight, on his first Celtic start. Puts them 4-1 up with half an hour to go.
Downside is his start comes at the cost of putting Idah back on the bench. Not sure if this is Celtic putting him in the shop window for a summer move, or if they genuinely want to look at him for next season. You'd have to imagine the former given how little action he's seen since returning in January. Still, a goal's a goal.
Ever Celtic player is in the shop window, no? Kenny had a tap-in to win the Rangers game if Maeda gave him the ball but happy to see he got a start and scored a good goal - timed his run to get ahead of the defender, made a clean connection, and placed it well. Goal in the last five games for the dropped Idah ...
10 minutes away from potentially having to take a penalty in a Scottish Cup Final here...
Have to say he was really poor during his stint on the pitch. No presence at all up front. A bit mad that they've ended up with him and Yang up front in extra time in their biggest domestic game of the season, neither are anywhere near good enough.
Just needs to make sure he buries his penalty now if he takes one.
Scored it anyway. Which is more than can be said for Celtic's first taker
Scores it, but Celtic miss two others and lose. They were awful up front throughout and Idah and Kenny will take a lot of flak for their part in them blowing a treble. Both were anonymous during their time on the field. Scales had a decent game to be fair, he wasn't the issue at all.
I wish scales had taken a few more shots. You could see him thinking about it a few times and changing his mind. That extra time was woeful I'm general.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
Rodgers tactics were brutal today as well
I thought Scales was excellent actually, and @rebelmusic, yes you could see him thinking of shooting a few times but took the safer option each time.
Celtic have reportedly turned down a bid for Kenny from Bolton Wanderers. (www.thecelticstar.com, 26 June)
Sky sports are reporting it now as well, hopefully Celtic sell, dont think he'll ever be just a bit part player there .Quote:
Originally Posted by Demesne Lad
That man Alan Nixon again -- says Celtic want £1m for Kenny and that manager Rodgers will let him go if Celtic have " a suitable replacement". Bolton (EFL 1) are thought to be offering £500k. Meanwhile, new signing Nygren can play up front if required and Celtic are keen to recruit striker Shin Yamada from the J League.
Probably just trying to hold out for another 100 or 200k, they'll have plenty of other options by the end of the summer.
Celtic have just bought a 19 y/o striker https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football...new%20contract.
Scores Celtic's first goal of the season, away against Queen's Park in a friendly. Neither Idah nor Scales in the squad (which reflects more on the squad Celtic have out than on them)
Scores in a 4-0 win over Newcastle today. Scales and Idah among ten changes around the hour with the score at 3-0 and Scales added the fourth
Weighed in with the fourth. Nice goal it was too, Lovely cross from Tierney !
Decent finish from Johnny Kenny against Livingston.
https://x.com/GoalsXtra/status/19592...GuJekCVKQ&s=19
I'd say that goal was more that decent from Johnny Kenny, his speed of thought and action is impressive he should be way ahead of Idah in the pecking order.
It was a good finish, but let's not get carried away. It was his second ever goal for Celtic and it was against Livingston, Idah (much as I haven't been impressed by him) scored more than that in the Champions League alone last season.
Stats?? Johnny has scored a premier league goal every 30 minutes!!
It's slim pickings for Celtic re strikers, as it stands now this season, to claim he should be well ahead of Idah in the pecking order is far from getting carried away. I'd say you wouldn't even fill a phone box with Celtic fans who would disagree with that.
Not just the quality of his strikers instinct goal but his all round contribution would put him at least on the subs bench again for Tuesday's CL game, prob Yamada will start gain.
Celtic fans largely dislike Idah though, so pretty much any other option will be seen as an improvement in their eyes.
Bolton are apparently still interested in Kenny, so it's still possible that he leaves Celtic before the end of the transfer window if they get someone else in.
Two goals against Falkirk. Still time for him to develop into an option for us.
Is Kenny the most under rated young player we have that is playing 1st team football at decent level? I dont rate him at all tbh, but does anyone here think of him as a potential regular international in future?
Think I may have mentioned it on the Idah thread at one stage. But I did talk to someone a while back who knew both well and has coached them. He said he'd take Kenny any day and his ceiling is far higher than Idah. I was surprised at that, but maybe it's an indication that Kenny really is underrated and if he does get a proper chance at Celtic he could go to a higher level.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Kenny works so much harder than Idah. You could say that doesnt matter but when you have a forward in a bad patch but is working hard fans will live with him but if you arent scoring and arent working the fans turn. Thats what happened at Celtic for Idah i reckon
Most under the radar maybe, in terms of the club he's at. The rest of it depends on what he does between now and the January sales. This is his chance, everything has fallen his way suddenly. What I did like was the two goal bounce back after missing two chances in the previous game, where you'd expect him to notch one of them, surely. They weren't easy openigs but you'd see fellas putting them in as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Under the radar is more how I meant it alright!
He's not at all close to being an international level striker yet but he has the cut of a fella that can improve if things go his way. Idah by contrast looks like he is where he is. Ferguson needs a shrewd next move and maybe he will end up just fading away sadly.
JK benefited last night v Falkirk in playing in a more traditional system where the object of the game seemed to be to get the ball in the final third and try and create chances around the box and score goals. So he was involved as a centre forward. In Rodgers (and many other modern, in vogue) systems he would have barely got a touch while Mcgregor and Scales notched up 300 touches a piece.
So he has a bit of a chance now for a few games under MON where he should see the type of ball that most modern centre forwards don't get.
Good luck to the lad I hope he makes something of it.
obviously i've never coached either but that feels so wrong. Idah scored goals all the way up. He scored 23 underage goals for us compared to Kenny's 5 goals. Idah's done it a higher levels. Idah has always been faster, stronger, technically better and a better finisher than Kenny. I think Kenny works harder and is more versatile and capable of playing across the frontline better than Adam. I'd do actually think Jonny could have a 20 goal season for Celtic now if he gets enough playing time. Both himself and Adam make great runs and under O'Neill they'd be more likely to be fed and both often find themselves in the right areas. Thinking about the last Ireland match against Armenia, you could look at Adam's three misses or whatever it was but actually he got into areas where those chances could be created and in that respect he was a breath of fresh air.Quote:
Originally Posted by passinginterest
Just going on gut feeling, I think Kenny really has been underrated by people. He was great for Rovers, is now doing fairly well at Celtic. He seems more agile and mentally sharper than Idah. If Kenny keeps that trajectory up, I don't see why he can't go up another level. I'd still have Idah over him for now... just for sheer physicality, but there's not much in it and the positions might reverse in a year or two.
His movement v Falkirk was superb. Was in great positions whenever Celtic attacked and could've been set up for more goals. He's a confidence player so hopefully he goes on a run because I think he is well able for Celtics level and possibly another above. Just needs to play. Depends on the style of play though, as said above.
I think that we are at a stage whereby we can't really discount anyone or anything under a particular age.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
I've said it to friends from here, Adam is like a wish version of Pippo Inzaghi. The amount of chances that come his way (especially in the context of teams who wouldn't create that much) are indicative of a good footballing mind. The amount of chances it takes to actually score one is reminiscent of auld 'Pippo.Quote:
Originally Posted by elatedscum
He's not offside nearly enough to draw Inzaghi comparisons!