That Kieffer Moore is a TonY Cascarino...Fouled both our center backs. Doherty couldnt beat Bale was a merit on Bale....But number 17 omg!! Follow your man!
That Kieffer Moore is a TonY Cascarino...Fouled both our center backs. Doherty couldnt beat Bale was a merit on Bale....But number 17 omg!! Follow your man!
Oh God. Silly by Byrne.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
Took a red for the team there.
On the plus side, that's Hendrick suspended for the next game.
professional foul
That was not Hendrick's fault at all. Jack Byrne with the worst pass I've ever seen at international level, and I've see a lot of crap passes watching this team over the past few years.
Byrne doesn't belong in the squad ever again after his "pass" to Wales to set up Hendrick's red card.
Suicidal by Byrne.
Yeah, it does show you that for all his positives, Byrne is not some panacea.
We may never score again.
Should've gotten something tonight. Wales are a very average side. Dont know where a goal is coming from at the moment, its just getting silly now.
That looked like a handball by the Welsh lad next to the post. Sky only just put the replay on.
Collins offered more in that cameo spell than Idah has for the last 2 games.
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Originally Posted by Colbert Report
Worst pass you've ever seen at international level. Doesn't belong in the squad ever again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Colbert Report
It was stupid and completely unaware but that's an over-reaction I think.
Still took the wrong decision a couple of times. Tame shot at the keeper when Doherty was on his right and O'Dowda to his left.Quote:
Originally Posted by shakermaker1982
They haven't conceded a goal in, what, 9 hours of competitive play? I think they're not that bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by centre mid
That was DEFINITELY a handball on James off the corner at the near post. Should have been a penalty.
Still, Jack Byrne really let us down with that pass there. I wouldn't have him near the squad until he has learned how to measure passes correctly. Very poor there.
Their goal was a foul by Moore.
How can Spain get 2 fake penalties and we couldnt was a hand on minute 92
Absolutely. Daft comments. Byrne added a bit of spice and showed why he's worth his squad inclusion, and also got Hendrick sent off and showed his limitations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
Another frustrating game, but the bottom line still is that, England aside, we've been competitive in all our games but we just don't have a forward worthy of the name. If we had any threat at all up front, Kenny would be on about 50% (plus the England game - which probably wouldn't have happened as we'd have beaten Slovakia)
No easy answers here - we just have to hope that some of the promising young players turn into decent players.
But he did shoot. He looked a limited player - poor decision making as you say - but he might be useful enough. It's not like he's behind Ronaldo and Messi.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
That was just so deflating
For a team that is trying to play a passing game we give the ball away an awful lot. Makes it needlessly difficult. Kenny needs to address that as much as the failures up front if his style is to be a success.
Can't fault the team for effort.
8 clean sheets in their last 9 games (plus a 3-0 defeat to England)Quote:
Originally Posted by John83
Given our striking problems, 0 was probably a good score for us.
3 comments now on the Byrne pass.Quote:
Originally Posted by Colbert Report
Not really, though it's not like Wales seemed to have their backs to the wall at the end either. We could use another gear. I'd settle for the first one finding some teeth, mind you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Real ale Madrid
Ok but number 17 was watching the moon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Colbert Report
Very bad game from the teenager
Collins did ok except for that time he should have passed to Doherty. We don’t seem to have anything better at the moment.
Yeah, sorry, not trying to clog the thread with negativity, I'm just very frustrated that a player with such poor passing judgement was allowed to play for us. I suppose we don't have a whole lot of other options. I honestly think that was one of, if not the, single biggest mistakes I've ever seen at international level.Quote:
Originally Posted by Real ale Madrid
I think the fighting spirit is still there, just a lack of quality. My only takeaway is that I’d like to see Collins play a full 90 in Kenny’s system. From his off the ball movement, to his physicality, Collins just seems more battle hardened. I’d play him vs Bulgaria on Wednesday and see what he’s got.
Not saying Idah has no role to play in WCQ but doesn’t seem fully where we need him to be.
We keep the ball for 30 or 40 seconds and whether it's Stephen Ward or Kenny Cunningham, you would swear that Stephen Kenny is trying to implement total football.
Teams like Luxemburg do that and can actually play penetrating football. Meanwhile, our best chance of a goal is the usual Duffy header. Horrendous to watch and I see nothing from Kenny that impresses me.
If Kenny really wants to change the culture then he should be clearing the decks of dross like McClean and several others.
As I've said before, I can take the likes of Idah or Molumby being ineffective. They are the future for us. The McCleans are the past and not a past that I look back on with any fondness.
Lets use the next two years as a chance for the young players to become seasoned internationals. We haven't a prayer of getting to Qatar but if they get to that point then I will be happy. Kenny will earn my respect for trying to be brave for the future (like countries like Belgium did).
Even I believe Byrne should have threw it to the box, Knight was watching the moon. Worst player on the pitch 17
Is it up there with Spartacus crossing the Rubicon ? ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Colbert Report
Or that French fella head butting the Italian in that big final ?
Knight did everything wrong when he came, Byrne should have thrown it inside the welsh box, but the kid was distracted
Awful again; I really don't know where we go from here.
We offer no goal threat at all. One goal in 10-and-a-half hours of football. And we look very iffy at the back in every match we play.
England excepted, these aren't even second rate teams we're playing, they're third-rate sides. Teams like Wales, Bulgaria, Slovakia, Finland, and we're failing to lay a glove on them.
We're just so easy to play against.
You haven't watched much international football so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Colbert Report
Remember Terry Phelan and Packie Bonner against Holland in 1994 for example?
Or Shay Given for much of Euro 2012?
It was a hospital pass; it was crap but it happens. There's no need for daft hyperbole over it though.
Watched it a few times now and in my opinion a 100% penalty.Quote:
Originally Posted by shakermaker1982
Look, I get that a lot of people on this forum watch the LOI regularly and it is only natural to be defensive of the only player from that league that plays for the national team. The pass he attempted was totally indefensible in my opinion. I'd love to play for Ireland but I'm not good enough, and sadly, neither is this guy. That was Joey Lapira stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by seanfhear
I think you're just being funny, but for the record, Spartacus' rebellion was in the south of Italy, near Mount Vesuvius. Julius Caesar crossed the Rubicon with his legions to spark a later civil war. We don't quite know where it was, but it was a northern border, so I don't think Spartacus ever got near it.Quote:
Originally Posted by seanfhear
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Originally Posted by Colbert Report
He had about 5 touches and 4 were fantastic. He made a mistake that was compounded by Knight (I think?) not moving quick enough. Stop with the hyperbole, Hourihane's pass directly to England leading up to the penalty was a more ridiculous error and it only happened on Thursday.
It was a crap pass, but you're going to have to put your hand up here and say that "It was the worst pass ever in international football" is just utterly stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Colbert Report
Sorry, but...
Hey, we're all entitled to our opinions. I'm not trying to wind anyone up, I'll delete the posts if people feel that strongly about it.