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I know there's a whole 'history and whataboutry' regarding policing in NI but for one of Her Majesty's Constabularies, and the only fully armed and a very well equipped one at that, to state it was 'unsafe' for them to respond just beggars belief.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
A worrying part of Derry's set up is the policing of this area, we all know the brandywell area has challenges and that the club have struggled to maintain security around the ground, it has to be pointed though out that these type of incidents on away supporters are usually carried out by small mobs from adjoining estates who weren't even at the match.Quote:
Originally Posted by Calcio Jack
However in late 2016, it's ridiculous that the Police cannot be called to attend to serious incidents outside or near a football grounds,with the response 'We don't go there'
Has it not been the case in NI that the PSNI have said 'there are zero no go areas for us', it seems ridiculous if this is still not the case. There are plenty of areas around South Armagh for example that I have seen PSNI patrols of late, and for the first time in probably decades.
I was told by two who were at the match that it should be mentioned that DCFC stewards and Derry fans were a great assistance to Dundalk fans last night. However the latest incident is not good news.
Anyway back to football, Derry should still make Europe and that will have to be seen as a successful season. I think there was 3,000 at the match last night, so that shows there is scope for good support. Shiels may be a bit of a crackpot but he's done a very good job this season, no doubt about that.
I meant to acknowledge this too in my earlier post. In general, Derry supporters are a great bunch and great craic, whether as visitors to Oriel or as hosts in Derry.Quote:
Originally Posted by oriel
However that does not mask the problem, and it is clear that it is not being dealt with effectively as these incidents rumble on from one season to the next.
It cannot wait for a serious injury or fatality to occur
League table is irrelevant in a cup final...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by El-Pietro
But the Presidents Cup win and your two league wins over Dundalk are relevant?
When talking about the cup final yes, in terms of teh gap between the teams in head to head games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
They were three very different games. I wouldn't place any importance on a pre-season friendly. Teams use these to build up fitness levels and to experiment with formations.Quote:
Originally Posted by El-Pietro
The game in Oriel was very even, as even as the 2014 decider and the game in 2015.
The key game from Cork's perspective was the game in Turners Cross in June. Cork won that comprehensively by outplaying Dundalk. It was a better performance than the 5-0 win in Tallaght, in my opinion.
Poor quality video, but, regardless, Cretaro couldn't have possibly put this further into the air. Quality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsnFYNWJKk4
A can of beer was thrown at Killer when he scored.If it had've been me i'd have climbed in to the stand to get the wee scrote who threw it and fu*k the "goading" as you call it.Quote:
Originally Posted by brendy_éire
Some win for Dundalk and an excellent match.
What the PSNI say and the reality are two different beasts. There are effective no-go areas in NI, and the Brandywell is just one.Quote:
Originally Posted by oriel
The situation is unsustainable and I think the club has failed to address it. They are right to point out a certain amount of powerlessness, but they can, of course, control where and how away fans enter and exit the ground. That might not entirely solve the issue but to not try something at this point would be a major dereliction. It's embarrassing tbh.
There are zero quick answers to this problem but the club can't sit on its hands or simply say it'll do more with the community. The least fans deserve when travelling to football is to know they will get home safe.
Piece in Derry Journal- DCFC to meet PSNI. http://www.derryjournal.com/news/cri...acks-1-7614959
Just read this also: http://www.derryjournal.com/news/cri...fans-1-7614274
What the flip is that about? Does UTH have some meaning I don't know about or were these wee scrotes declaring their allegiance to the Harps?Quote:
Colr. Donnelly posted: “Windows were broken, tyres slashed and ‘UTH’ and other slogans sprayed on it.
It's the same gombeens who caused a stir in Finn Park earlier this season. They call themselves City Service Crew and are all between around 15 and 18 years old.
Up The Hoods supposedly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr A
In all fairness to them they run a good bus service ;) More reliable than that Harps54 crew i hear :DQuote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Buses wouldn't be good craic if they were reliable.Quote:
Originally Posted by ToberonaTornado
I'm pretty sure those involved in the hassle outside the Brandywell probably haven't set foot inside a League of Ireland game for a long time, if at all. Its local scrotes out to cause bother, nothing to do with football.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
http://www.imcdb.org/i028824.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr A
It is if football supporters keep getting attacked:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by EatYerGreens
If you get punched outside a shop, does that mean it's a problem with retail ?Quote:
Originally Posted by bennocelt
It wasn't one set of football fans attacking another, which is what was being claimed earlier on here.
It was a group of hoods who hadn't been at the game attacking outsiders for sh!ts and giggles. No doubt they'd have been there had it been a late night game of any other sport, so it wasn't specifically about football. They're probably also picking fights with other young lads in the neighbourhood the rest of the time. It wasn't football-related or football-inspired.
Then why did they attack Dundalk fans rather than home fans?
what nonsense are you talking?Quote:
Originally Posted by EatYerGreens
Of course its a football problem, in the last 3 years on the top of my head it has happened us 3 times, Rovers twice, Cork!
The same young lad who was boasting on facebook about attacking fans the other night has a picture of himself and group of lads with a CSC, City Service Crew at a Derry game and this was painted on the sevens bus from Dundalk (pic on twitter)
Why does it not happen when their is GAA on?
The same lads who did damage at Harps are in brandywell most weeks, the CSC muppets at the opposite end to away supporters
So unfortunately for the 99% of descent Derry fans these few muppets are ruining things for your Club
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Originally Posted by EatYerGreens
Actually you do, pubs and night clubs do have a responsibility for their patrons (in or outside of their premises), not least they wont get a license from the garda (I am from Mullingar, trust me.......I know what I am talking about here, lol!)
It is about football, we are talking about football fans getting regularly attacked while going to see their team play in Derry. Doesn't matter what they do the rest of the time.....
The main reason is probably because the GAA games are on at daytimes, not at night. These problems only seem to happen under the cover of darkness.Quote:
Originally Posted by dundalkfc10
Also - the GAA ground in Derry is a bit nearer the city centre, and the main entrances to Celtic Park are towards the city centre rather than the Bogside and Brandywelll. They're also not located next to a badly lit maze-like housing estate where it's easy for people to congregate and then pop out quickly.
800 tickets sold by rovers for the bohs match on Friday !
End of season optimism for next season : )
You not going to reply to the rest of my post or only the bit where you have an argument?Quote:
Originally Posted by EatYerGreens
I know literally zero about the other stuff you've posted - no idea if it's god's truth or absolute bullcrap. So there's no point in me responding on it really.Quote:
Originally Posted by dundalkfc10
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Originally Posted by EatYerGreens
So your not aware of this happening before?
City service crew or whatever they're called pictured below.:o
The Dundalk supporters mini-bus is clearly daubed 'csc' .
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuCYNexXgAExpMm.jpghttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuCYNzaWgAAQhU5.jpg
They look really tough!