Tralee did apply to join a few years back, but were turned down. Same time as Cobh were turned down. So it's not inconceivable they'd be interested still.
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Tralee did apply to join a few years back, but were turned down. Same time as Cobh were turned down. So it's not inconceivable they'd be interested still.
Not inconceivable no but not exactly almost guaranteed either. As far as I know Kerry found it difficult to either get or keep a 19s team going can't remember which it was but doesn't exactly scream somewhere that is ready to jump into LOI.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Kerry League are in the under-17 league already aren't they? Presumably they see a long term senior team there. Mayo League announced plans to have a league of Ireland team by 2020 in Milebush Park a year or two ago. Monaghan/Cavan are stepping up to under-19 this season with a view to senior team in a few years too.
Sorry 17s it is so. I know from a conversation I had with someone that they were trying to convince Kerry to keep the team they had in cos they were struggling to keep it going not sure if its been sorted or not. I know structure isn't the main things that need sorting or anything like I just think some not all are throwing out the 16 with regional leagues without putting thought into what it would actually take with regard new clubs and alligning seasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
So the only other option is for non-league to get some common sense and actually play the game at a sensible time of year?Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
This year I believe it was two. Both in Donegal.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
I did say 'we'...Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
We had a home game with Bray called off, Sligo had a couple called off too.
I don't think you can call it "sensible" quite as easy as that. The USL went for summer soccer for a while and I think they've since reverted back. They were losing too many players to summer holidays. The DDSL i think have changed, so it looks like the FAI want to keep pushing it that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
The important thing i think is to align the seasons. Probably summer is better alright, but there's a lot to be worked out.
And I still think that we're even having this discussion means the original decision to change season was a very short sighted one.
The USL weren't losing players to summer holidays. They were losing players to Donegal League mid season.
I'd argue that Fanad United would add nothing to the LOI, except helping to make up the numbers.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
They're a small parish in an isolated rural location, whilst football is largely an urban phenomena. If anywhere in Donegal got added to the League, it should be somewhere like Letterkenny - with the population to sustain a team, and potentially prosper.
I hope the days of the FAI biting the hand off any club that fancies joining the LOI are over. Under the current system, if they haven't got the core ingredients likely to make a club succeed then they shouldn't be let in IMO. Otherwise it just tees up further drop-outs in the future. If we ever move to a proper pyramid system, then that would of course be a different matter.
Exactly. So for the sake of the league Harps should move inland.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Letterkenny Rovers joining the League of Ireland would be the end of Finn Harps. Harps rely heavily on support from Letterkenny. Besides, Letterkenny Rovers are largely despised within Letterkenny itself and would likely draw little support. They have tried to join the league several times to the best of my knowledge and been shot down each time due to proximity to Finn Harps.Quote:
Originally Posted by EatYerGreens
Fanad United being isolated and rural would have no bearing. They're almost an hour and a half from any LOI ground. Fanad United are a relatively well supported team in their area too and have a decent setup. They're far from the answer to problems, but they'd be no worse off in the league than Cabinteely, Mervue, Kildare or any other poorly supported team over the past 20 years.
Inland, like, more than 30km from the coast?Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
That's exactly my point. They'd be no better than other teams who joined and then dropped out of the league (I have no doubt that it's only a matter of time before Cabo joins that list too).Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
If it's not too much trouble, yes. Thanks for being so co-operative.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
So you want them to stay where they are now?Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
MORE than
Any know where to get updates from todays meeting?
the USL Nigel is that an unofficial Donegal league or what?Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
No, the Ulster Senior League. Same as Munster and Leinster Senior Leagues. One of three leagues in the county with Donegal and Inishowen Leagues.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinho II
It combines both Donegal and Inishowen sides and some sort of non-EU side.
ah right. I must be thinkin of Connacht Senior League so that doenst exist!Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Any one have any word on the meeting between the PCA and the FAI yesterday? Did it go ahead?
Throught there might be some news on this today. Anyone hear anything
Not a thing. Not the most transparent of organisations.
Why is that Nigel?Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Sounds a bit like Longford 😂Quote:
Originally Posted by bennocelt
Yes we actually hate Letterkenny more than Athlone
Politics mostly. Despised might be a little harsh. But they're generally not very well liked around the county. They've a long history of taking players of various junior clubs and even senior clubs and offering big money to play USL. They have a few politicians backing them, and they have just p!ssed off a lot of people over the years.Quote:
Originally Posted by bennocelt
Personally, I've no real opinion one way or the other on them. Their payments to players have been a bit annoying over the years and taking a lot of decent players off Harps in the process but from time to time I find myself watching their games since they're so close to my house.
https://www.thesun.ie/sport/football...17-_-779809489
No time frame but good to see that there's a possibility Monaghan might rejoin in the future
You'd have to imagine that's a possibility in maybe two years time when some of their side gets too old for under-19. A team progressing right through from15/16 years of age together through to senior level in four or five years would be a fantastic story for the league.
Why would that make them disliked in Letterkenny though ?Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
You're obviously not too keen on them yourself, but Letterkenny is still the only population centre of note in Donegal (doesn't something like 1 in every 7 people in Co Donegal live there ?).
I think I already sufficiently explained it to you. They're just generally not a well liked club in the area. It goes back a long time and like I said, is mostly politics.Quote:
Originally Posted by EatYerGreens
Letterkenny is only 12 miles from Ballybofey. It would make absolutely no sense to have them compete with Finn Harps considering Harps reliance for the towns support. You'd kill Finn Harps having Letterkenny join the league. I'm not sure how this isn't getting through to you
I don't think you've really explained why they're not liked in Letterkenny though?Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
I don't think the impact on another club is really a reason to deny a team promotion if they've earned it tbh. Survival of the fittest would push the LoI along, not hinder it.
Letterkenny Rovers aren't trying to join the League plus they already are one of Harps Feeder clubs :) Harps should of moved to Letterkenny years ago :)
I have though, a few times now, stating that it's mostly political stuff. It's difficult described exactly why they're not well liked, but they just aren't.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
They have tried joining the league a couple of times.Quote:
Originally Posted by ForzaHoop
So the PCA have settled for the FAI's ten team leagues but want parachute payments for teams that go down! Are they mad? How is that fair on the current FD clubs who have already been disgracefully treated and had their only financial incentive i.e. The play offs scrapped. The PCA have absoutly no interest in serving the interests of the FD clubs. They only care about the elite clubs. Absoutle jokeshop.
Sun piece: https://www.thesun.ie/sport/football...ain-for-clubs/
So the PCA is going to stick to premier clubs only, but there is no indication the first division clubs get a voice at all. That's an absolutely shameful way to treat clubs that do massive work to keep senior football alive. Would love to see clubs including Harps making a stand on this but doubtful it will happen as clubs are nervous of repercussions of rocking the boat. It's an unholy mess. No transparency, no plan and no democracy.
Members association in representing the views of their members only SHOCKER.
The idea of the vast majority of league clubs having anything of any value to bring to discussions with the FAI is insulting to the intelligence of anyone who follows the league. Poor clubs left without a voice my aras.
Nice to see limerick fans have a short memory.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lim till i die