The pitch did play very well in Tallaght tonight from what I saw. The two-week break was probably what it needed to come up to scratch.
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The pitch did play very well in Tallaght tonight from what I saw. The two-week break was probably what it needed to come up to scratch.
It's getting there. Easily the best grass surface we've played on this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Was almost quietly impressed by this then I remembered you've played at the Brandywell, Jackman and Dalymount.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
I did say "easily" though. I thought the pitch played well, the ball was on the deck for most of the game and both sets of players seemed to have no difficulty passing the ball. Not quite sure what was going on in the heads of both sets of centre halves, they will probably try to blame the pitch for their poor control.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Rovers were playing some kamikaze passes around the back four. Ryan Brennan should have been punished a few minutes before the goal when he pinged it straight to Meenan.
I thought it was poor. Apart from the monsoon of a Setanta cup final, pitch is normally very good in TallaghtQuote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
Everything relative I suppose. We haven't played at grounds where the surface have been considered as traditionally good. Tonight was top of the heap so far. It wasnt bad to the point of really effecting the game, a backhanded compliment I suppose. Turners Cross next week will be interesting to see considering the silky football played at home compared to the long ball away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Louth4sam
Stop it!
Make another thread to discuss other pitches. This one is for building up the myth of the invincibility of the Oriel pitch
Myth? What Myth? The Oriel pitch has magical powers! This was never questioned..Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
I wonder how it would be after a typical Irish summers day when we have all four seasons in the space of a few hours.Quote:
Originally Posted by Calcio Jack
The legend of the pitch grows......
It's now eating lumps out of football boots
http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...-31161823.htmlQuote:
Towell will travel south in fine fettle after his treble against the Galwegians brought his tally to seven goals in his last five league outings, a good start for a new pair of black adidas boots that he was sent which are a lucky charm.
"I've only worn them five times so I think there's something in them," he says. "I don't even wear them to training any more because the pitch (at Oriel) takes lumps out of them."
It won't be long before visiting players will need hob nailed boots to even tread on the Oriel surface
Serious question - can players wear their regular boots at Oriel or do they need a particular type for the surface?
You can wear normal boots but there are specific boots made for artificial surfaces that a lot of players would have. Modern boots would be better at coping with artificial ground than the old-style metal studs but they're not ideal either, as Towell says.
Ya what?Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Just a timely reminder to Longford fans that this thread is dedicated to all whinges and moans about Oriel Park pitch, away sections, stewards, lack of crisps or any other random grievances
I'm sure we will use this to its full extent after a heavy beating tonight. Thank you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
Are Dundalk going to keep Astro truf pitch for next year? I heard that they will have to rip it up & end of this season or next, heard dundalk want ownership of Oriel sorted ASAP so they can decide what to do with the pitch.
Might help explainQuote:
Originally Posted by Trainee
https://medium.com/@McLaughlinGavin/...d-91931f0f1b9a
Talk is 1 more season and then either return to grass or upgrade it to the newer model synthetics. All depends on the lease of the ground though with the previous owner of the club playing silly beggars with it as that and the YDC are his main assets these days after the arse fell out of the building game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trainee
He did have to flog a piece of land for €60 that was bought for €800k, never mind the Quayside office block going for a song like €300k or something. He is hanging on for dear life to claw back some of his bank balance. If people boycotted Tool Fix his supposed one last standing income he might hand over the lease - he can keep the YDC though that would be an issue with Des Casey i'd say!
Exactly, his portfolio/ businesses have taken a hammering the last few years and Hiney Park was bought purely on speculation that he'd be able to grease the right palms and get it rezoned for housing etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
The YDC should have stayed with the club when the Fastfix lads took over, even with it being built partially on Casey land but the price GM was looking was exorbitant, he really got a fantastic deal at the time considering the situation he was in, which has only increased over the last few years. I wonder now if he'd be more agreeable to a deal at a reasonable price given his current situation. Within the next year is the time frame to try and hammer something out with him before the property/ construction/ land merry go round really starts picking up again. It's fantastic facility to be fair and sure the only reason he got the grant money in the first place was because he was the owner of the club/ leasee on the land and it was supposed to be a long term benefit for the club itself.
As far as I remember Oriel/ DFC is one of the regional centres of excellence now for the FAI as well, in an ideal world we could work out the lease/ ownership of the ground so we could draw down grant money and possibly in an ideal world take ownership of the YDC too. Maybe work out a deal on the price for it where the club leases it out to GM for 5/ 10 year term which would be a reversal of the current situation but at least he maintains control of the operating business out of it.
I don't think he wants it anymore. No way is it making money. Football pitches are only in use for 2/3 hours Mon to Thurs, and the odd 21st/40th etc... and the odd charity eventQuote:
Originally Posted by colonelwest
I believe that GM has leased out the YDC to a former staff member of his that is running it.Quote:
Originally Posted by colonelwest
So while the terms of the lease forbid it it is sub let to a sub let? Surely that is a breach of the lease and allows the Caseys withdraw the lease for the breach and reissue to Dundalk FC. So it seems to me that if DFC take the lease back as is certainly possible the planning levy on the YDC will becom become a liability to the club or the Casey trust for a facility that is built on land of 2 owners...wont be able to slag Bohs off over land issues anymore as this all comes out in the wash!
So GM has sub let the sub let? Inception level stuff at this stage! Shirley as Nesta says that's breach of contract never mind he's in breach of the original lease with the Casey family? It's a horrible can of worms we're in the process of opening, as much as I and most appreciate what GM did for the club while he was there it's an absolute mess of a situation to try and sort out now, all tying back to him getting out of the club and the fastfix lads coming in.
I still believe that he never wanted to sell up and hoped to cash in on Oriel Park. Any building development in the area seemed to be linked with a new home for DFC as is happening with DkIT now albeit for different reasons - DkIT have said nothing and all there is is a tenuous link due to a former plan with Louth GAA that collapsed as a result of lack of central GAA funding. i doubt the FAI would help resurrect the project with their financial contribution. GM should cut his losses and give up his leasehold otherwise he will end up down his initial money with €300k of council rates and levies on top; Not hanging in there in the hope circumstances may change and Boom II will bail him out of the hole.
There's a boom ii ?
Is GM still involved in the building game ? I know he had a steel business at Castletown Cross but is that still going or is Toolfix and the YDC all he has now?
While lack of central GAA funding was an issue as they want most if not all games in the Leinster championship played in crooker, the nail in the coffin for it was the south Louth GAA clubs refusal to have them based in Dundalk.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
In relation to this debacle the one who loses out the most in all this is the club. I am under no illusion that the current setting was developed under the best intentions but then why should the lads invest more money in an area that they don't own and are only theoretically subletting.
The dkit project I would take with a huge ladle of salt. Because there is no official word from them that they would wish to build a stadia and wish for is to be anchor tennents. Also is it going to be municipal with a running track, as I can't see it being just for footy.
In all honesty I think the cheapest option for the club is to try to buy the lease outright
"hanging in there in the hope circumstances may change and Boom II will bail him out of the hole"Quote:
Originally Posted by Dunny
Cool :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
BTW no way would i be calling for or supporting a boycott of his store in Park street as was suggested,that's just stupid.I know a couple of lads that work there & they have families to feed and houses that need paying for.Wise up.
Maximum impact...No I phrased it badly, i wasnt suggesting that his shop should boycotted. I was more saying that he is playing a risky game and could jepordise his reputation and his ongoing business interests. He is putting his notoriously difficult nature in a very public domain and I am surprised some of his closest associates haven't had a quiet word of advice.
A packet of Tayto for anyone who manages to say anything original here...................
Cheese and onion :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
The lines were painted on crooked when Harps played there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
That was the pre-match pints of Harp.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
That stuff is good in name only.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
It's a great pitch. Everyone loves playing on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
Funny how nobody complains if you happen to beat dundalk on their own "turf"Quote:
Originally Posted by Nah Nah Nah Nah
Should we not start giving out about the unfair advantage they get from their new Scoreboard now ?
Its only half an advantage as only half the crowd can see it as has been the predictable complaints on everything by some of us Dundalk natives:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by vinnie