Bleurgh. Your assumptions and one-eyed interpretations have had more holes poked in them than Stephen Ward's defending. Get off your cross.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
Bleurgh. Your assumptions and one-eyed interpretations have had more holes poked in them than Stephen Ward's defending. Get off your cross.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
ill happily acknowledge any wrong predictions I make. Far being being condescending, it was an ever-so-tiny playful dig on my part and I have also referenced you and your opinions positively in several posts. I don't think it's way off the mark to suggest you have a glass half empty / worst case interpretation of several issues. Less of the victim please.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
Stutts you know i have the utmost respect for you (and Danny) as posters, and the respectful and intelligent way you get your points across, but we are going to have to beg to differ on this! It's not me bringing up Keane and Grealish this time. I am comfortable in my assertions. I don't feel a need to crusade for vindication! What i said about Keane is common enough criticism but here it is sadly a losing battle.
I thought you even admitted you were probably wrong on Keane after reading the Liam Mackey version of events?
As for "common enough criticism" I often despair at Irish popular opinion on many things, especially sport. Sorry, change "often" to very frequently.
Indeed. We hold ourselves to a higher standard of debate. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
Idk. I have regularly seen similar opinions to mine re: Keane on rte, wsc, guardian, boards and proc.
Agree about the standard of posting here though compared to certain other forum.
I think you've seen similar opinions to yours on here as well. It isn't personal and it isn't a witch-hunt, it's just the cut and thrust of debate. Your view is your own, and generally you seem to give as good as you get - I only have a problem when you lapse into victimhood.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
As we know, the only true victim round these parts is Tets now he has to run around policing The Doc.
Ive sent an email to Everton that was polite but firm on your behalfs.
I have not seen any interpretation here or elsewhere, that Robbie would walk away if he was dropped from the first team, not even by the most irritable and ignorant of the Keane bashers. It's just about universally accepted that Keane will turn up as long as the manager wants him in the squad.Quote:
Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton
Alba will be feasting on haggis before the match. Do you chaps remember the movie Alien?
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...9F25oKlYgq7EDD
Uh oh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crosby87
BEHALVES, Crosby. I hope you haven't hit send yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crosby87
No, that works for Crosby!
I can't speak about the forums on WSC (although I enjoy the mag) or the guardian, or PROC (People's Republic of Cork?) but if you're using the comment section on rte.ie and the soccer forum on boards.ie to support your opinion, you're already on thin ice.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
I'd wager there's no ice at this stage.
It's funny my tablet corrected me on the whole behalves thing. Technology is such a hideous bitch goddess.
I was speaking fairly generally. I thought there was one or two people round these parts agreed with TOWK. Regardless, I agree the weight of opinion from what I've seen wouldn't support it.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
Mostly I was just trying to be conciliatory, Geysir. I'm a moderate, unlike you with your 'off with his head!' arctic outlook.
Swan tends to be the ship of tranquility in a sea full of storms, claim many.
Fair enough but you were replying to a post which headed with that Keane nonsense /victimhood.Quote:
Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton
I just ignore his posts, that's not an 'off with his head' attitude, it's called silent action, a quite progressive and effective action :)
With kick off two weeks from Friday, any idea when there will be a squad announced? Monday perhaps? I'm guessing there won't be any changes except those forced by injury.
Unflappable one might even say...Quote:
Originally Posted by Crosby87
Cyrus Christie is gearing up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Philly
Ah, c'mon, TOWK. I'll admit, sometimes I've allowed myself to get wound up to the point of exasperation by what I have perceived to be your irrational doom-mongering and exceptionally stubborn sophistry, but I don't mean to be condescending. (I'm not sure if you're addressing myself or Stutts there; possibly both.) If I've come across that way, I apologise. It might be hard to believe, but there is a mutual respect there, for you obviously care, and I know you have a sense of self-awareness and enough intellectual capability to be much less rigid, suspicious and catastrophical in your general analysis of things. That's why I try to entertain you in debate when others urge otherwise or simply ignore you, but it can be frustrating work because you so often continue repeating the same disproven claptrap over and over again in spite of the faults and inconsistencies of your position having already been clearly pointed out to you. More empathy and less ego would do you good! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
If I'm wrong on something, I'm prepared to admit it. We've been over the former two matters enough before, but, when you return with that now-familiar response of "but that's what Robbie said!", you're still simply assuming that Robbie's words were intended to carry a meaning that you've presumptuously assigned to them. Once again, you seem to be disingenuously feigning ignorance of the many discussions we've had on this before where it has been pointed out to you how you were jumping to an unreasonable conclusion. And, as Stutts has already mentioned, you'd even admitted your unfairness after you'd read Mackey's piece. Mackey, a perceptive and knowledgeable journalist, was at the press conference.
On Grealish, vagueness is akin to ambiguity, whereas you've always tried to give the impression you were sure he was simply deceiving us. Do we know he explicitly turned down a senior call-up? The whole episode told us a young lad was considering a tough decision in his footballing life - our management empathised with that and dealt with it accordingly - but now it seems he's going to go through with it and stick with us. Cut him a bit of slack.
Can you direct us towards a few of these opinions seeing as they're so readily available? Anyhow, just because a certain interpretation might be a popular one (and that is disputed), it doesn't make it the correct one.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
Is TOWK a Corkonian then?... I suppose that explains the victim complex then! Actually, he's not Sullivinho's comedy wind-up account, is he? :pQuote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
McCarthur and Steven Fletcher are both out for this game apparently. Fletcher's time out doesn't seem to be confirmed by Sunderland yet though, so he might be back in time.
Gordon Greer is slow.
lads, fair few tickets available in Lisbon Lions Section 411
McCarthy playing in a game with this kind of atmosphere and hostility could only benefit Everton I think. Whether he produces or not on the night wouldn't even matter too much, to them, as the experience would stand to him no end. If anything, we are the ones who stand to lose more by his availability. If, as a lot of the Scots seem to think, Brown starts getting the better of him due to his greater mental strength, that would give the home support a massive lift and it could become a very difficult evening for McCarthy. It really is an opportunity for McCarthy to show that he has grown into the player we know he came be, in terms of ability but particularly in terms of temperament.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Still at this I see. It should be read in the context of what he said earlier: "Of course I thought about it ((retiring)) but the thought of never putting on a green jersey again was difficult to come round to and even now I am dreading that. I want to play as long as I can for my country and as long as I am fit and healthy and the manager picks me, I will play".Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
In other words he will play for as long as he can (unlike many high profile internationals these days) but once he is no longer fit, or healthy or selected, he will retire. What more do you want him to do? Give blood?
That is some crazy illogic, DeLorean.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
In my cobweb defence, I did try to explain what I meant in the remaining paragraph. I just don't see why Martinez would want him withdrawn from this game compared to any other. The hostility, etc will be an Irish problem, not an Everton one.
squad announcement imminent: http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...-30701288.html
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The Ireland manager is in Dublin today to name his squad for next month's Euro 2016 qualifier with Scotland
That quote come before or after the uproar caused by his other quotes? To answer your question, I wouldn't mind him accepting rotation and being available off the bench. It could prolong his Intl. career by another couple of years. He doesn't have to start to be useful to the team.Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
And I don't appreciate the tone. If you look back in the thread you know full well I didn't bring Keane up out of thin air; it wasn't me who brought him up at all in fact. It was someone else bringing him up and using him as a stick to beat me with over my opinion on another, completely unrelated, subject.
Ah you say that geysir but you still haven't put me on your ignore list. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
The same Brown who is a red card waiting to happen?Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
@ DI
- Exasperation is mutual.
- Agree to disagree re: Keane (not me constantly bringing it up as a topic!)
- Agree to disagree re: Grealish (how do you equate someone saying "he turned down call up" with someone saying "he is deceiving us"?)
- Yes even your last post was extremely patronizing.
If all you get from what I say is that Keane and Grealish are spinning webs of deceit then fine but that's not what I'm saying at all, even if it's not as complimentary or approving as some would like.
I was talking about Scott Brown who plays midfield for Scotland and Celtic... looks a bit like Kieran Donaghy. If somebody said (or you feel) he's a red card waiting to happen then yes, the same Brown.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
It was related in so far as it demonstrated inconsistency in terms of your interpretation of different players' words. You (mis)interpret whatever set of words you wish to suit your agenda.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
But you've often made the claim that he's hiding his true intentions - those allegedly being to play for England - from us, haven't you?Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
There you go again. Saying I'm (mis)interpreting something. Very patronizing. I have said from the start that it's simply my interpretation and it differs from yours. It doesn't mean I'm right and it doesn't mean you're right.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
I have a memory like a sieve, but I honestly don't think I ever definitively said that he's hiding his true intentions to play for England. I simply stated that he may have a pull towards playing for England and backed this up as best I could. And in fairness, that was the worst case scenario that had everyone here panicking just two months ago. I've said several times that he's ours to lose now but I'm not going to hatch my chickens yet especially after the rollercoaster ride of events over the last several months. U.S.A. game is a friendly game. Kevin & Jack Grealish think this is the right time to showcase Jack. I'm not going to definitively claim that this and that is their intention.
36 man squad named:
David Forde,
Shay Given,
Keiren Westwood,
Darren Randolph,
Rob Elliot,
Richard Keogh,
Marc Wilson,
Seamus Coleman,
John O’Shea,
Alex Pearce,
Brian Lenihan,
Stephen Kelly,
Paul McShane,
Damien Delaney,
Shane Duffy,
Ciaran Clark,
Stephen Ward,
James McCarthy,
Jeff Hendrick,
Glenn Whelan,
Darron Gibson,
Paul Green,
Aiden McGeady,
Anthony Pilkington,
James McClean,
Robbie Brady,
Stephen Quinn,
David Meyler,
Robbie Keane,
Shane Long,
Daryl Murphy,
Jon Walters,
Kevin Doyle,
Anthony Stokes,
Simon Cox,
Conor Sammon.