Coleman's positioning is often suspect too. He's an attack-minded player so he's always going to have one eye on getting up the field. He's surely a better player than Andre Wisdom too.
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Coleman's positioning is often suspect too. He's an attack-minded player so he's always going to have one eye on getting up the field. He's surely a better player than Andre Wisdom too.
Cyrus is giving Enda Stevens a tough evening in Boro v Sheff United at the moment. It's actually poor tactics by United. They have Stevens isolated at left wing back so Boro are doubling up on him and he's being offered little support by the left centre back of their 3 man defence. Bamford and Howson are making hay down that wing now and then too.
It's not been disastrous for Stevens. He's coping quite well. I'm sure he'll have a good year at this level. Boro are stacked with quality.
In the WhoScored Championship Team of the Month for September: http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...i-of-september
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Christie's arrival from Derby always looked likely to be a strong acquisition for Boro and the full-back has certainly not disappointed. The 25-year-old registered an assist in a 3-2 win over QPR last month and followed that up with a late leveller at Fulham, showcasing his threat going forwards. Indeed, it's Christie's ability in possession that is unquestionably his greatest asset, completing 17 dribbles and creating 6 chances for a rating of 7.58 last month.
I like his effort, but his performances for us on the international stage have been subpar thus far. Glad to hear he is a run of good form coming into these two matches.
Given we'll be searching for wins/goals rather than focusing on the defensive side I'm happy enough that Christie is our man for these matches. I don't envy any player who has to fill in for a guy like Coleman -- pretty hard standards to match just as you're trying to break through with the senior team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Colbert Report
Things appear to be going well for Christie at Middlesbrough (for Bamford, not so much) -
http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/f...-last-13842191
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Christie having the last laugh
If the season finished now, Cyrus Christie would have to clear space on his mantlepiece.
For that's where the Boro 'Player of the Season' accolade would be heading.
In his final days at Derby, the full-back came under fire from some sections of the Rams' fanbase after being quoted as saying he was 'one of the best full-backs in the league, and on his day, one of the best'.
The criticism that followed saw Christie take to Twitter in response, accusing the Derby fans of focusing on one particular comment and glossing over the rest of the article.
The niggle wasn't just off-the-pitch either, with the Republic of Ireland international feeling some supporters were quick to jump on him after every mistake. In his words, the summer move to Boro gave him a new 'lease of life'.
Well Christie's claim of being one of the division's best certainly looks a valid shout based on his performances so far in 2017/18.
The energetic defender looks to have finally ended the long-term Boro right-back curse, and his sensational assist for Britt Assombalonga's goal at Hull last night was further evidence of the player's prowess.
He is not just a defender, he is effectively a second-winger for Boro - a player who is relied on to add width and drive on the flank.
Christie gave Boro fans one of the standout moments of the season with his last-gasp equaliser at Fulham last month, and while his contribution at Hull may be overlooked, Assombalonga was quick to hail his teammate after the game.
If Christie continues his early-season form, he is destined to become a fans' favourite for many years to come.
Ya that's alright championship but international as we know you get(and he has) found out, going forward all the time and getting out of position.
He's done okay for the most part I think. It's not like anybody expected Coleman to be replaced seemlessly.
https://amp.independent.ie/sport/soc...-36290165.html
Great read. He's really proud of playing for us.
Lovely read, yes, but what went on with the bit I quoted above I wonder, was he telling the FAI he was available to them & it not being acted on till it turned out Guppy knew his people ? Or am I looking to criticize unfairly here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyrus Christie
He does seem to be implying that. Whether it was his fault or the FAI's, I think the truth lies somewhere in between.
I'd say it's more than the management didn't know he was eligible until Guppy told MON.
'Gardaí to investigate racist tweet directed at Cyrus Christie': https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soc...stie-1.3297770
I'm absolutely disgusted to hear this. I don't think Christie had the best of games defensively on Tuesday, but he still gave his all and did his bit over the whole campaign. He clearly cared and certainly didn't deserve to be subjected to ignorant bullsh*t like this, especially just after having missed out on World Cup qualification, which was upsetting enough for all concerned.Quote:
Originally Posted by Emmet Malone
An utterly shameful episode and cowardly too from whoever the assh*le was who did it, considering they were protected by the shield of anonymity.
Don't think they should take too much notice of the odd likely drunken tweet by upset fans really.
One thing I would say is they he is pretty good going forward, certainly for us anyway!!
2 goals in 17 games v 6 in 249ish in league games!!
(3 in 17 if you count the Norway one!!).
I just wonder how he would be on the wing or up front?
YBIG have named them on their Twitter account
This story is an embarrassment. The unfortunate reality of social media - gives a platform to such clowns that are evident in society.
The players cannot be overly sensitive to criticism that they deserved for that performance. But not abuse and certainly not abuse in that manner.
Christie seems to be weak/prone to error on the defensive side of things but looks threatening going forward. I wonder whether he should be tried out in the right wing position.
Don't think Christie has the tricks to be a winger - he's a pretty standard attacking full back. Needs to work on his defensive positioning and he'll be a Premier League player.
The abuse he received is vile - hopefully the person responsible gets a visit from the police.
Social media has opened my eyes to how many ignorant and really brain dead people actually exist. I genuinely had no idea, thankfully I encounter very few in 'real life'.Quote:
Originally Posted by elroy
I actually thought he was one of our better players on the night, although I seem to be in a minority. Didi Hamman did mention he was probably our only outfield player who can hold his head up high, or something to that effect, so at least I'm not completely alone.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
Heartening to see a lot of support from Ireland supporters for Christie across social media today. The condemnation of the abuse has been widespread, which is good to see.
Criticism (preferably constructive) is part and parcel of the game, but there's absolutely no place for racist abuse. It should be confronted and faced down when it raises its nasty head.
YBIG have highlighted the accounts from which the abuse emanated although I hope these individuals' identities can be uncovered so that they can be properly named and shamed.
The Twitter account of the cretin involved was still public earlier today. He isn't even Irish.
Seems to have more effective tricks than some of our other option.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Swapping him and Brady on the left, Brady to right back, Christie to right wing would have been a better idea
I expect.
Best thing is to just ignore such people, if you don't likle their tweets stop following them.
Christie tweeted the following a short while ago:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPGxrACWAAY4mTR.jpg
I am in two minds about this story. Take it as read that racist comments are unacceptable but they've hardly gone away especially now with social media. Is it such a huge story that some cretin of a racist posts a pejorative comment on Twitter and it is the headline on the sports news? One or is it two or three nobodies make a racist comment and it's headline news. If there were 15 or 20 people or the fans were making racist comments I think it's a story because it would be reflective of a greater feeling among people.
Or perhaps it's good to highlight it so that people are aware of such things. I am not sure. It just seems an ott reaction for the comment of one or two persons. I remember I was at and England v Ireland rugby match (free ticket I hasten to add) and an Ireland player (I think it was O'Driscoll) was injured and this English supporter kept shouting at him "Get up, you f'in Paddy!! Get up, Paddy!! There's nothing wrong with you, Paddy!!" which I thought was racist at the time but would it be worth headline news? The song "James McClean hates the f'in Queen" does us no favours either for the "best supporters in the world".
Is it a storm in a teacup or something worth highlighting ? I would imagine that James McClean gets far worse and in bucket loads. Does highlighting one or a couple of racist Tweets help in the fight against racism or encourage it. I just don't know.
Yeah its not like there is even a hint that this isn't an isolated minority incident. I guess what changes it over, say verbal abuse, though is that it goes straight to his timeline and that it has become a headline. Once it becomes a headline it becomes a story. Ultimately though it is 2 absolute cretins tweeting racist abuse. I'm not saying its "just" this as if downplaying it, but the story is that two people have publicly outed themselves as racist idiots.Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
Controversial view here maybe, but - is "Go play for Jamaica" even racist? I presume Christie has some Caribbean roots given his name and colour. "**** off back to Jamaica" may well be racist, but "Go play for Jamaica" to me just implies he wasn't/isn't good enough, and a lesser team is his level. Obviously the own goal makes him a target unfortunately.
But would it be racist to shout "**** off and play for the North" at Gibson after a bad performance?
The tweet I've seen online is brain-dead and an example of all that's bad with social media. It's abuse, unnecessary and, as noted, apparently not even from an Irish person.
But why is it racist? Is it because Christie is black? That's not what makes something racist; in fact, it undermines real racism to suggest that everything slightly offensive is racist. Arguably, "Go play for Jamaica" is just a variant of what's been shouted in frustration from terraces for decades.
Obviously the lynching comments are utterly indefensible and should be followed up, (but they're still not racist by themselves)
I have to agree that its not too bad and the example of the North is a good example. People scream stuff at white Irish players all the time, Ginger B#$tard being one that is 100% racist and offensive but sure that's allowed of course because the victims of this abuse are not counted. Its all ******Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
you don't get to decide what is it and is not racist. The "go and play for Jamaica" implies he's not supposed to be here, i.e. that he's not Irish. He has an Irish passport, he plays for Ireland, he's Irish. End of discussion.
The same person also talked about starting a lynch mob to go after Christie.
Shouldn’t Lynch Mobs only go after Lynchs.....I’d say that twitter fella isn’t the smartest .Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Exactly. and would the person say it to his face? Good rule of thumb.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
I was thinking the same thing. Unfortunately a headline like those over the last few days are going to give an impression that we have a number of racist fans and may make other players think twice about playing for us. It really doesn't make sense for footballers to have social media accounts. They may enjoy the praise when they have a good game, but its a guarantee they will get abuse when they inevitably have a bad oneQuote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
It's abuse with reference to his (alleged?) ethnic roots. How is that not racist?
By the way, I'd see it as equally racist if he was a white guy with, let's say, Latvian roots and he'd be told to go play for Latvia.
A statement can be unintentionally racist, I could use a term that I didn't know was racially charged (e.g. Suarez using "negrito"), but once it has been established as racist, then it's racist. That doesn't make me a racist for saying it, but using it again would.
These people clearly wanted Christie to leave because they don't regard him as Irish. The reference to Jamaica is a clear link to the colour of his skin. These people singled Christie out for this type of abuse because of his race. They are racists. This is not up for debate.
Of course it was racist
I think telling someone born in Coventry to go home to Jamaica is racist. I suspect most if not all of us here when supporting Ireland do not even notice the colour of the skin of our players or whether they are "Anglos" or born in Cork (ok maybe we notice that!). To suggest to someone that they should go to Jamaica is abusing them because of the colour of their skin and is therefore racist. If they were from Jamaica, it would arguably not be racist.
However, I am a bit p'ssed off with Christie that he chose to start reading his tweets in the dressing room after one of the most catastrophic results in Irish footballing history. I expected him to be in tears before reading the tweets not after them but then I am not a professional footballer who has to deal with disappointments week after week. But seriously, what did he expect to see in his Tweets? "Great game, Cyrus" "Unlucky, Cyrus" ?
I checked out the two racists fools who made those comments on Twitter. One is a diehard Milwall fan from London.
The other says he is German-English born in India (I think he’s since shut down his account. Maybe he f**ked off back to India)
So neither of them are Irish and feel they have a right to speak on behalf of Irish soccer supporters. Cretins!
Regarding the debate on whether the Jamaica comment was racist, it absolutely was. You need to look at the motivation behind that tweet. It was made with intent to be racist and get to Cyrus. Language can be interpretable but you must look at the intent and the intent here was vitriolic and abusive, designed to be as insulting as possible.
Did Cyrus have the possibility of playing for Jamaica ?
that's not necessarily what he did. What I imagine happened is he just turned on his phone, and the tweet that mentions his account would have appeared in his alerts - same as any text message, whatasapp, etc - and then he searched for his name to see what else was being said.Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan