It would have actually qualified as cryptic if they hadn't spelled it out in the caption. I assume they're legally required to change it to Monday Night/Tuesday Morning SoccerQuote:
Originally Posted by ger121
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It would have actually qualified as cryptic if they hadn't spelled it out in the caption. I assume they're legally required to change it to Monday Night/Tuesday Morning SoccerQuote:
Originally Posted by ger121
"Soccer Republic". Crap name, bodes well.
No more Monday nights it looks like to me.
Sunday nights maybe? Directly after The Sunday Game? 9pm slot? That'd be lovely.
The FAI Awards night is on this Sunday night at 8:30. Might give an indication of a slot available?
It's Monday at 11:05 pm
http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/irish...medium=twitter
Soccer Republic, a new series focusing on all aspects of Irish soccer, will begin on Monday 10 March at 11.05pm on RTÉ Two.
The series will cover all the action from the SSE Airtricity League, as well as the latest Republic of Ireland and Champions League fare.
Interviews with Ireland’s Premier League stars will also be a regular feature of the show.
Presented by Peter Collins, the show will feature top pundits, special guests and goals every Monday night.
Paul McGrath, Ray Houghton, Ronnie Whelan, Kenny Cunningham and Keith Gillespie will be among a host of special guests joining the regular panellists Richie Sadlier, Pat Fenlon, Brian Kerr and Tony McDonnell.
The first show on Monday week will hear from both Martin O'Neill and Roy Keane ahead of Ireland’s friendly with Serbia on 5 March.
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Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter
Back to the Future !
Ah I'll be sending up Z's by that time anyway
Silly decision.
While the new time slot for the show doesn't bother me, it's disappointing that there is no show focused solely on the league. I don't have any interest in hearing interviews from players in England as they are always uneventful and filled with cliches.
I'm also not sure what part of the champions league covers Irish aspects bar the couple of games involving our teams in the summer.
It seems to me RTE are just looking for a highlights show that covers the only rights the hold now in the champions league. We'll know better after the first show but I've a feeling the league of Ireland games will be relegated to a side issue. Hopefully I'm proved wrong.
It will definitely suffer while the premiership and champion leagues are on. Will miss MNS even though they reduced the coverage of games last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yossarian
Wouldn't mind both. Highlights on Saturday of Friday and Saturday games. Round up Monday night if more games and even a preview of the next week.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Doesn't RTE already have a "Champions League Magazine" show at the weekends? Is than kaputt?
I love the way they're trumpeting that they'll be showing "all the goals from the Premier Division". Presumably this translates as: "Coverage of the Premier Division will be reduced to only the goals, and we've finally decided to stop acknowledging the existence of Division One."
this station never fails to amaze me, 11.05 at night. ya thats great but what about the people who have to get up early for work. really pathetic from a pathetic broadcaster. you might as well put it on at 2am.
There's no way of dressing this up. It is a downgrade of the coverage of the league.
The change in the time slot will also affect the number of school kids who watch the programme.
Is there a house in the country that doesn't have the ability to record the show? Or watch it on the RTE player?
I'd say there are quite a few.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nah Nah Nah Nah
They are tagging everything with "Republic" these days. Breakfast Republic, Soccer Republic, Republic of Telly.
What's next?
The News at OneRepublic
Republic of Loose Women
New religous show called "Dominican Republic"
New Financial show - Bouncing Cheque Republic
In fairness this is lazy stuff from rté isn't it ? This show will be a ratings failure and be off the air in a year - the league needs to move to an internet / You tube based show with on Demand higlights etc - TV and RTÉ are just not interested.
Back to around the time of eircom league weekly so?
Jaysus lads, you might try and give it a chance. There will be no 'downgrading' of LOI coverage, it will be the same level as MNS. The difference is that there will be a holistic approach to Irish football which might, just might attract new viewers. In a new era where the national management team actually recognise that there's a national league surely it makes sense to treat all Irish football equally.
As for the timeslot, 7.00pm was a terrible slot - men simply don't watch TV at that time, hence the proliferation of soaps between 7 and 9 across all channels. Most of us are commuting, eating, putting the kids to bed, listening to Game On or Off The Ball, out training or bizarrely attending actual live Monday night LOI games - a situation that doesn't happen anywhere else, League games scheduled against the highlights programme.
I realise there's a reflex kick RTÉ attitude among LOI fans - much of it has been warranted at times - but Soccer Republic is made by LOI fans for LOI fans. Give it a chance.
Good to hear that it'll be mainly focused on LOI.
The Irish national team bit is fine, even if the players are based in England at least it's still Irish football.
But I'm less enthused at the prospect of the Champions League being thrown in... for instance, will it focus only on rounds involving Irish clubs? Will it be broad Champions League coverage, offering insight on games involving teams outside of England? Someone like Richie Sadlier would be well capable of providing decent insight, the likes of Ray Houghton I'd be less convinced of.
I have never heard Sadlier provide insight on anything other than the art of advanced whinging.
If you can provide 1 piece of evidence to prove that more men ( sexist anyway ) watch TV at 11 o clock at night than at 7 o clock in the evening I'll be happy to eat my words, but this is head in the sand posting. Its called Primetime for a reason. I'll probably watch anyway - most followers of the LOI will watch, but some that watched at 7 will not be able to watch at 11, and you can say with a fair degree of certainty that you won't introduce any new fans to the league with this new timeslot ( Although the number of new fans introduced at the 7 slot is debatable - the probabilty drops at 11pm )Quote:
Originally Posted by WeAreRovers
This is a categoric downgrading in LOI coverage and in my opinion it will disappear in a year.
7pm isn't primetime, and that hour is absolutely aimed at female demographicsQuote:
Originally Posted by Real ale Madrid
Why's that? There's zero pressure to produce ratings at 11pm, so it should be safe enough.Quote:
This is a categoric downgrading in LOI coverage and in my opinion it will disappear in a year.
I think people are getting too hung up about the CL aspect. There's maybe 6 weeks left this season. It'll be 15 minutes or so previewing the games involving English teams (and maybe Barca/Real). That's it.
International weeks will focus on the national team.
Other than that the only football RTE can show is LOI. They won't be talking about any football they don't have the rights to
I'd tend to agree later is better than 7 even though it's very late. 10pm would have been a better time but beggars can't be choosers. For one reason or another I always found I had to record MNS and watch it later or online.
I used to miss it the majority of the time at 7pm. I should be able to watch it the majority of the time at 11pm. It won't clash with Monday games anymore. The question is will they include Monday games?
Maybe if they're on in Dublin, beyond that I would doubt it. It may well be recorded earlier in the day too.Quote:
Originally Posted by legendz
That'll be the success or fail of the new time for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by adamd164
Ok not Primtime but the overall point is you get more viewers at 7 than 11 at night. Thus any shift like that is a downgrade. You don't see "Against the Head" going out at 11pm. If you can provide evidence to the contrary then I'll happily eat my words. Perhaps its tougher to compete with Emmerdale etc then whatever is on TV at 11 o clock at night I concede that may be a plus point but I cannot fathom how this can be percieved as anything other than a downgrading of the coverage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Now I just hope that there is less chat and more highlights.
I think MNS, and this new version, are kinda specialised programming so will likely not lose too much, if any, of their core audience. By all accounts, the viewing figures were horrible for MNS so it seems unlikely that they got too many casual viewers. The timeslot won't matter to their hardcore audience, and that's all they hadQuote:
Originally Posted by Real ale Madrid
TV viewing has changed dramatically in the last 5 years. More and more TV is watched through DVR and other playback platforms.
The bottom line for me is that the LOI games will continue to be covered and I'll get to see the goals. MNS was always more than LOI crowds deserved
Different argument than the downgrading of existing coverage I think and I agree. - I think a LoI you tube channel with highlights / analysis up on the Saturday afternoon / evening would be much more worthwhile than the token gesture of a graveyard shift programme with a half arséd marketing effort ( Republic ) which goes out 3 days after the event. Just my two cents - as you say for the majority of us here - all we want to do is see the highlights / goals, doesn't matter really where.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Did Rte crack down on local radio length of updates on LoI games and some live coverage from Shamrock Rovers games?
Don't get the RTÉ apologetics. Seems to be the worst of both worlds; highlights shunted into a graveyard slot and LOI content watered down. In other words, after five years on the national broadcaster, we're getting a sub-eircom League Weekly product, designed to appeal to a casual, non-LOI fan who has no incentive to tune in at that hour anyway.
I think people fundamentally misunderstand the nature of broadcast media in Ireland; the popularity of Gaelic Games, rugby (which was kept alive by the Cogley clique until the Heineken Cup came along) and the Premier League is due, to a massive extent, to the relentless promotion of those competitions by RTÉ. Not t'toher way round.
The rugby coverage isn't great, against the head is only on during 6 nations. GAA fans are critical of how poor League Sunday is.
The hardcore rugby fans that follow AIL would say they get little to no coverage at all and in fairness their crowds aren't much worse than the LOI. I big local derby in limerick can easily pull between 3,000-4,000.
The highlights RTE show of the GAA on League Sunday, is the 2 games that TG4 show on a Sun afternoon and the 1 or 2 games Setanta show on a Sat night, They dont even bother sending their own cameras to any gamesQuote:
Originally Posted by legendz
What does that have to do with anything, though? The top level of domestic rugby is pushed fanatically across all platforms.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jofspring
Yeah, every sport covered on RTE gets its complaints. I don't think there's a single panel I like for example.
I always watch the show on the Player, usually the day after, so this time swap means very little to me. And, as has been pointed out, the show is no position to be angling for a primetime slot. The numbers aren't there, and RTE won't take the financial risk of large scale promotion to try and make them exist for, what is, a niche product in this country.
Because the audience is there in a way it isn't for LOI or AIL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheridan
Support doesn't exist in a vacuum. It's there because it's fostered and promoted.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter