I didn't want to get more moral outrage aimed at me, but I do kinda agree. You don't see Bush*, Blair, Howard etc down on the frontline....Quote:
Originally Posted by Magoo
*even when he was drafted!
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I didn't want to get more moral outrage aimed at me, but I do kinda agree. You don't see Bush*, Blair, Howard etc down on the frontline....Quote:
Originally Posted by Magoo
*even when he was drafted!
:rolleyes: i knew this was gonna happen. Read the post again will you. I said the situation was discreditable... warped way.... yadda, yadda, yadda. I understand all these words mean so little now in the hyperbole age of the tabloid but please try an approach the thing objectively without the "sick *******" rhetoricQuote:
Originally Posted by joeSoap
I know...I know... ;)
I hope that this does not sound in any way patronising.
With the exception of the mainly crass posts made in the first page, this thread is seriously and sincerely written.
Hats off to these soccer fans who take time out to reflect on the world around them, and to go public like this with such excellent posts.
Also didn't Saddam (or one of his agents) try and assassinate George Bush Mk1 after the first Gulf War.Quote:
Originally Posted by joeSoap
Also did anyone see Mark Stein (who i think sometimes writes in the Irish Times) had his article on Bigley pulled by the editor of the Telegraph... even from someone so notorious it was written in pretty poor taste given the recentness and the nature of the whole incident.
If you go to a country to earn 'danger money' then you can expect to possibly get killed.
Not gloating in the mans death but would you go to Iraq tomorrow ??
Well now you see if I was to go and make big bucks probably, but to help out hell no :rolleyes:
This thread is starting to get cynically dense!
Possibly killed....maybe caught in a crossfire, blown up in a bombing, the way most civilians die in wars, yes. To be abducted, abused, tortured and clinically beheaded, then....no!!Quote:
Originally Posted by dortie
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everyone knew what the situation was, and theres no war there at the moment. the country is just in chaos and hundreds of people have been abducted. its just this guy is british.Quote:
Originally Posted by joeSoap
Agree 100%Quote:
Originally Posted by ShedEnd.com
Maybe its just that it gets more publicity over here cos he was British. And we wouldn't be having this discussion if it wasn't so well publicised.Its a simple fact that, like it or not, we tend to listen more to British related news topics and take an interest in them because they're our only neighbouring country, speak the same language as us, and dare I say it, are very similar to us in most ways....oh shock horror to all of the Brit-Haters, look what I've just said.... :eek:
Thank you....yet we are very quick as a nation to dispel any similarities or associations...when it suits us to, or when we've had a few pints too many and decide to be 'patriotic'....
You've got to ask for who's benefit is he doing this for? O.K . he might be doing it to shock the West but he's probably also doing it for the benefit of other fundamentalists. There has to be a power struggle within that group and by acting (however horrifically) at the front line rather than directing operations hidden in a cave somewhere he is putting down his mark as the leader of the fundamentalist movement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Magoo
No, if you look at the other posts I've made, I suggested that these people be punished, but also that there is an attempt to change the situation as a whole.Quote:
Originally Posted by joeSoap