That's utter bull.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
That's utter bull.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
You would hope so.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe_denilson
Roll on next Sunday ....... 14 matches unbeaten.
The 0-0 draw machine rumbles on, crushing all in it's path....
We had chances to score ...... lets hope on sundayQuote:
Originally Posted by tricky_colour
Lol my stream has switched to the Queen's jubilee concert, which I just happened to have on the telly in the background.
Prince Philip could not make it as he is blalddered in hospital.
Was very impressed by Hunt tonight, great delivery both in open play and set pieces. Terror off the ball, prevented a certain goal with good decision making and handed a chance on a plate to Walters. Should definitely be our bench impact player IMO.
Overall that was a very good warm up game for us, you'd have to allow for the conditions for the quality at times.
If O'Shea can get back his zest in time then the only other change from the starting line up I'd make is have Gibson at CM. I was pleased with Ward's game.
If somebody says any different for the forward partnership, I wouldn't disagree, it's about time that we can change the starting partnership during the game and not miss a beat.
Thought Walters was excellent when he came on. Doyle and Keane were ineffective, hopefully food for thought for Trap and might consider Walters for a starting place.
Westwood also had another pleasing performance, made one lovely save at the start of the 2nd half.
Good to see the likes of Green and Hunt getting a run out, but hopefully that's the last we'll see of them this summer.
Was the Trap better off by saying that places in his starting 11 were still up for grabs?
O'Shea, Doyle & 1 of Whelan/Andrews should be fretting about their places in starting line up if I'm being honest.
Trap just acknowledging that we struggle when the opponents play five in midfield. However, he then questions whether we can actually match that by playing with only one up front. Sounds to me like he won't change anything.
Wow didn't expect the Trap to question the use of 4-4-2?! Where the hell did that come from?
Very interesting that he mentioned it. Still think it'll be a 4-4-2 for the majority of games, but with a back up plan just in case. As for who can play in front of the midfield, what about throwing McGeady or Duff in there and letting Mclean loose on the left. Duff has played forward for us in the past.Quote:
Originally Posted by shakermaker1982
Just stuck up a stream cap of the match (Premier Sports) on Irish Torrents.
John O Shea is a centre half, should be along side Dunne, Kelly would do at full back.
Entertaining game, but another curate's egg of a performance. We conceded enough chances to lose and yet we created enough ourselves in the second half.
Much better second half but it was too easy for Hungary to get between our two lines of four in the first half. Walters and Gibson in particular staked big claims for a starting place, but I think all the subs contributed. Nowt wrong with keeping good players up your sleeve but I'd definitely think of dropping Doyle.
Still, what's football if it isn't conceding chances and making chances and then seeing who scores more?
Hmm, George Hamilton, Hannover 1988. Danger here...Quote:
Originally Posted by swinfordfc
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Originally Posted by tricky_colour
Which is why they are Hungary!!!
Well it is no surprise that 4 are going to struggle against 5, if that is the case then we simply have to dropQuote:
Originally Posted by EastTerracer
a strike back to help out, and it is what we should have done today if they was the problem.
Lets face it it is utterly pointless have 2 up front to pass to when you can't win the ball in first place.
Only just saw the game, had it Sky+'d. Surprisingly entertaining for a 0-0 friendly. Thought we didn't look as defensively switched on as we should have - one eye on next Sunday possibly. Either way doubt Trap will let them get away with it.
Definitely some thought on the starting 11 yet. I think wily Trap might have a surprise up his sleeve yet - his talk of five in midfield post game sounds like an attempt to keep Croatia guessing though.
I think the whole "this is my XI for the tournament" is mind games stuff. I hope so.
there does not apear to any way to register at the site, thus nobody could every login?Quote:
Originally Posted by theworm2345
it wasn't a great game, but was in atrocious conditions and quite possibly should not have gone ahead
having said that, the result was the least of my concerns, behind injuries and suspensions
Am I right in thinking that David Forde is the only squad member not to see gametime in the two friendlies?
Hungary Ireland
22(9) Shots (on Goal) 12(3)
15 Fouls 7
3 Corner Kicks 7
0 Offsides 3
50% Time of Possession 50%
1 Yellow Cards 1
0 Red Cards 0
3 Saves 9
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/report?id=337048&cc=5901
Watched the game... but, just checked the box score to see the damage... we gave up... 22 shots!?
Slaven Bilic was in attendance. He'll have trouble sleeping tonight I suppose lol
Don't want to read too much into a friendly 6 days before the big show, on a wet pitch, but still a bit disconcerting.
Stephen Ward giving the ball away just before the ten minute mark was downright criminal. He'll get roasted by the likes of Spain and Italy. What is Trap thinking? Get a real left back in there.
How do you guys feel about Duff and Doyle starting?
Those are the two I'd single out- not crazy about their form. Would prefer Long followed by Walters ahead of Doyle. McClean over Duff.
Ward concerns me but don't think we have any option there.
You need to be invited, though I am out of invites. I know I invited horton and either geysir or gastric (too similar to remember) and neither has used either of their invites so you can ask one of them I'm sure they'd oblige.Quote:
Originally Posted by tricky_colour
I'd keep Duff for the Croatia game and see how he does. His experience alone means he should be given more time. Doyle, though, has lacked confidence for over a year now and has just being playing bad - simple as. I think Walters looks the most threatening of all our strikers lately and would like to see him start Sunday.Quote:
Originally Posted by boysingreen
This is my fear for the euros, the ' Russian effect'. Basically how they played against us in both games, used a diamond format in, which played between and passed through our banks of four. As much as I admire traps organisation and effective tactics, I fear he doesn't seem to have any answer to the diamond formation and associated tactics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
As for traps comments at the end about a change in formation, does anyone else think he often says ,certain things that are either lost in translation or are to appease the journos. I don't believe for a second that he is truly considering changing our formation.
Not too bothered about the game. Given and O'Shea will be better for the game. McGeady played OK Doyle has been off form for some time and his position is the one most under threat. Lets hope he has a stormer on Sunday and rediscovers the form he was showing a season ago. Keane and Duff wisely going through the motions. Bilic won't have been too bothered by what he saw but I bet he is a bit nervous about McGeady and the players we have on the bench like Long, Walters, Cox and McClean.
I agree, I think Walters has looked our best option at no 2 up front since the Estonia games last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Philly
I know trap appears to have said he'd start with Doyle but given the events of the last few weeks, wudnt be surprised to see him spring a surprise. Having said that, he may still want to start Doyle and use Walters as impact from the bench. More likely that Walters might start against Spain or Italy, if trap looks to freshen it up.
Sean St. Ledger on 35 minutes, he lost his footing and gave up a great chance, should have been a Hungarian goal for sure. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt due to the terribly slippery conditions but a mistake like that in Poland will cost us dearly.
Meh, this match is meaningless. We will play better on Sunday. No question.
Also reading back these comments believe it or not i think POSH got goaded into negativity.
Let's face it. We're gonna win nothing. Probably ever.
But If Trap has 'mind games', that is one thing veryhard to beat, by anyone.
Hate to be a player in that 'system' though...
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:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/R...ePQzMg8VBl.jpg
Surely the solution to that is to simply play a matching diamond? You have to match their formation when you do not have the ball at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by elroy
We should be ale to adapt, it would be better to have a midfield captain to do that.
Trap talking about brining in a 5th midfielder. Media suggesting he is contradicting himself. I guess he wants to keep the opposition guessing. Like any game of poker while we had our possible starting XI, we were hardly showing our hand. If we play like last night on Sunday we'll be defeated but I'd expect us to be tighter and not so open to counter-attacks.
He wouldn't change it this late in the day would he?
Some of us have been banging on about 4-5-1 for years now but we's missed our chance to road test such a system. It can't have just dawned on him that we struggle against skilful mobile midfields? If he does go 4-5-1 then Keane & Doyle would need to be dropped and Walters brought in. That would definitely not go down with the captain.
Other things I'd like to see corrected before the big game on Sunday:
Stop Duff taking set pieces. His corners are woeful, chipped slow balls into the penalty box are a waste of time. They are too easy to defend.
O'Shea and Ward need to close down wingers/wide midfielders a lot quicker. Stop turning your back when it looks like the opposition player is going to cross it and close the bloody man down. EVERY bloody time. Watch tapes of Ashley Cole if you have to.
It's easy to see where your invites are gone and once an invite has gone out, it can not be taken back.Quote:
Originally Posted by theworm2345
I have earned another invite, no doubt due to my diligent seeding habits :) if Tricky wants an invite he can 'PM' me his email address.
Yeah, I've been playing full back since I was a kid and I know that. But O'Shea and Ward aren't natural full backs - and it shows.Quote:
Originally Posted by shakermaker1982
As for 4-5-1, I'd like to see Duff moved into centre midfield to form a triangle with Whelan and Andrews, with McClean taking Duff's place on the wing. Duff is a good passer, can hold onto the ball and a clever player. He would be more use in the centre now that his pace is gone. Like Giggs for Man Utd...
But for trap 4-5-1 means "Paul Green" so I'd be very afraid...