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Next question is who do Derry fancy to be their next manager?
Steve Staunton?
NOT A CHANCE, and if DCFC ever bring back Traitor Kenny Ill not be bqck qt the Brandywell. Only two years ago the same man said he couldnt manage any other team in LOI, so Rovers do well with all their money and jumps ship. Well done Stephen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
My choice would be David Kelly played for us for a while in 2003, great first team coach with lots of experience
On extratime, Kenny's quoted as saying "its time to go home", and the Derry chairman intimates that Rovers are his home club as he was brought up in Tallaght.
I know very little about Kenny outside of his obvious LOI career. Are the above quotes correct? I know he may have been born and bred in Tallaght, but Rovers weren't there at the time. Does he have the strong connection to Rovers that is being claimed? Or is it more of a smokescreen?
That seems like an odd thing to say considering he's spent most of his career managing other teams in the LOI. Not that he didn't say it, it just seems like a strange promise to make.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flexy
I think it's more family connections in Tallaght than SRFC to be honest. At the start of his time in Derry it was hard for him with his family being in Dublin, they moved up to Fahan, but given the oppurtunity to move back(it's a good 3 hour drive, and Fahans basically a village) nearer home to a good job, most people would take it! Managers come and go so it's not that big a deal, thankfully it's come about now rather than closer to the start of the season!Quote:
Originally Posted by gormacha
So with all the talk of a long list of candidates, a manager coming from outside the league etc etc and they've only signed Stephen Kenny and the second choice was the UCD manager??? I was expecting a higher caliber manager with all the talk.
What a retarded comment. The UCD manager who with by far the worst budget in the leagues won the first division over money driven Fingal and Shels. Who then maintained there PD status twice, even after losing 10 of his starting team. Don't be so blind.Quote:
Originally Posted by sullanefc
Secondly good on Rovers for not throwing money about stupidly. Ok they have had to pay compensation for Kenny but that was going to be necessary unless they picked up a manager out of contract, and there are very few good ones not working.
Good appointment by Rovers, there not getting above themselves after one good result in Europe. Some sense in the league at last
They did bring him back. In 2008. I take it you went back then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flexy
Back to the LOI merry-go-round for us after 5 years away. He doesn't come free, but he has a simple task, retain the league. So no pressure then.
What a retarded choice of manager!!! A decent cup manager. That is all.Quote:
Originally Posted by noddy102
solid argumentQuote:
Originally Posted by sullanefc
Well I think it's a point that Kenny's been in a position to win the title and hasn't. Clearly the Rovers board reckons he's learned enough lessons that he can follow through this year. His CV is excellent.
My opinion is he regularly over achieves and when this happens people begin to think your under achieving. Sounds silly but think about it for a second.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Players like McGlynn and Higgins, for example, moved to Bohs and performed very poorly. Kenny on the other hand brings the best out of them. Zayed is another example. Not doing a huge amount for Fingal, and many would argue he isint all that great, yet Kenny produces a PFAI Player of the Year and the PD's top scorer.
My point is its very naive to think the best appointment is one from a foreign league just because those leagues might have a higher profile than the LOI. I for one would argue that choosing someone with knowledge of this league and not just looking at the club as a stepping stone is a very wise choice.
Managers come and go. All the best Stephen. Have no idea who we'll get in but options are limited (Peter Hutton, possibly with Felix Healy is one of the few realistic one's bandied around).
Kenny quit before to join a so called stronger league, which i didnt mind but to leave for one of your main title rivals is an insult to the fans of DCFC and the club. Too soon for Pizza to be full time manager and Felix and wellhe can stick it where sun dont shine. Bring at Dolan or David Kelly Kelly inQuote:
Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton
Meh, not a very convincing argument - what about the likes of Billy Dennehy who was shocking for Derry and when he joined us (and then Rovers) became one of the finest players in the league?Quote:
Originally Posted by noddy102
I've seen it said that Kenny's achievements were phenomenal with Derry given his budget in comparison to other sides - but which of his 2 budgets are people referring to?
Eh, when?Quote:
Originally Posted by adamd164
He's from Tallaght afaik, and did play for Tallaght Town I think. Again, iirc he did at one point harbour ambitions to take Tallaght Town into the league. Whatever about traditionally, Rovers are now clearly the Tallaght team, but even if he wasn't a boyhood fan, maybe going home just means back to Dublin?Quote:
Originally Posted by gormacha
Ultimately though, LoI managers are no different to LoI players, and will do what's best for them. Not exactly the first time Kenny's left a club you'd think he'd have a strong affinity for, for a better offer, is it?
When what?! Derry fans were cheering him out the door. If you mean him being one of the best players in the league, he'd stroll into Sligo's squad or any other.Quote:
Originally Posted by poster
[QUOTE=adamd164;1561803]Meh, not a very convincing argument - what about the likes of Billy Dennehy who was shocking for Derry and when he joined us (and then Rovers) became one of the finest players in the league?
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What when he was 17/18?
Personally I dont rate Billy now so, unsurprisingly, im going to stick to my argument :)
thats me convinced anyway.
Btw, not suggesting Kenny is a bad manager at all. I think he'll do well. But there's already been more than enough spin surrounding Rovers.
After 3 league titles in a row, Jim McLaughlin left us to go to his hometown club. We dealt with it by adding another league title. Now the situation has reversed. I'm sure Derry will deal with it well too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flexy
From what I heard, Kenny left because he wanted away from Derry not particularly because of what Rovers were offeringQuote:
Originally Posted by noddy102
I wouldn't live in Tallaght even if you threw in Georgia Salpa as my personal sex slave.Quote:
Originally Posted by PartySaint
He doesn't have to live there;)Quote:
Originally Posted by born2bwild
its gas, either he isnt supporting Derry long or has a very short memory, he's leaving for 2 in a Row Champions with a hell of a lot more potential then Derry, oh and of course Rovers being the club playing in his hometown. Jim Mc as stated left the best team ever to grace this league, love the man, GOD, but if you want to bring insult into it, the same Derry team that eventually won the league on the back of Rovers demise, was effectively said Rovers team..... now thats an insult.Quote:
Originally Posted by mypost
He's not one of the league's top players. Nowhere near it.Quote:
Originally Posted by adamd164
I thought he was one of the Rovers players who made the step up to European football very easily. I don't think he has good enough ball control or pace to be a top winger but I think he can do it at a level about Shamrock Rovers.
The whole hometown club thing is a total bluff. Sure Shams have no history there apart from the last three seasons that would hold any relevance to Kenny.
I think Shams will win the league by the amount of points that they should have last year if it wasnt for O Neill ie around ten.
Rovers have always been popular in Tallaght - it's one of the reasons the club decided to move there. Milltown is as close to Tallaght as Inchicore, which is why both Rovers and Pats have fanbases in the area.
Wrong!
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Originally Posted by dong
I think it was a bluff to lighten the blow for any upset Derry fans.
They didn't want to say he was leaving for a bigger job with better prospects so went down the "hometown club" road.
Very happy with the appointment as mentioned before and particularly the manner and timeframe of it.
I would agree. SK has, down the years as a player and manager, never been a fan of SRFC. Glad he's on board myself but I'm sure the Derry chairman realises that he's lost his manager for a lot better reasons than 'hometown club'.Quote:
Originally Posted by dong
Stephen Kenny was the obvious and best choice for Shamrock Rovers. It's an absolute travesty for Derry City.
Did you know? Since 1996/97 when Derry won the league title, without Stephen Kenny as manager Derry City have never finished in the top four. Conversely, in every full season that Kenny has been in charge, they have never finished outside a top four spot.
Here's an article on his departure from the perspective of a Derry City fan: http://sc1sports.com/kenny-departs-c...end-of-an-era/
Sweet Jesus, the revisionism by shams on here is incredible Now Kenny is a cross between Alex Ferguson and Jose Mourinho ! :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by CiaranR
Despite large resources (first time at Derry - double contracts era) SK won nothing apart from the League Cup - hardly inspiring stuff. Good LOI manager/coach but nowhere near Fenlon or Cooke in my opinion
Emotionally very brittle (constant cry baby - literally) it will be interesting to see how he copes with the most demanding fans in Ireland, especially when he has a bad result or two. Also his "go to" game has always been counter attacking and while he does it very well I dont think it will be suitable to shams. Too many draws - especially at home - killed Derrys League challenge as they often lacked a "plan B" when teams sat off them (especially at the Brandywell). At Shams he will have to cope with most teams sitting back and settling for a point so he will need a more attack minded set up than at previous teams.
Good manager (in my opinion) but still a lot to prove.
...... He's not the messiah, he's just a naughty little sham :cool:
Would you happen to be the son of a certain former DCFC chief executive?Quote:
Originally Posted by CiaranR
Think most of us thought it was the "free ground" that swung it CD :D I have no doubt that there was support for shams in Tallaght prior to move to SDCC Stadium (there is in most areas of Dublin) but would have considered Tallaght traditionally more Pats territory to be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
I can only speak for my own family but we were all Rovers. Plenty of Pats fans around too. And the decision to move to Tallaght was made 15 years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by marinobohs
Up against the Shels/Drogheda/Cork/Bohs financial eras..Quote:
Originally Posted by marinobohs