We'll call him Pilks from now on though.
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We'll call him Pilks from now on though.
I know what you mean, and I agree on how the media works but I'd have thought that Pilks' continuing goalscoring exploits would at least cause one of journos to quiz Trap on him.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe_denilson
Scored again today vs Spurs.
A texter to BBC live updates writes: "If Kyle Walker is in with a shout for England then surely eight-goal Anthony Pilkington who is causing him all sorts of problems should be too."
Hands off our boys FA!
Until Trapattoni caps him, which he should have been doing, then Pilkington is not one of ours yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
It does stand to reason that if McClean was deemed worth a cap then Pilkington could have been called up too, even if a far lesser level (if any) of media attention in this country is directed at Pilkington.
Perhaps Trap has been waiting for a strong declaration of intent to play for Ireland from Pilkington. As someone mentioned in this thread, there's every chance that he'll be in the reckoning for the London Olympics as part of the Great Britain squad. Then there's the fact he has only played one game for Ireland, so it's not as if he's in a McGeady or McCarthy position whereby he's been part of the FAI youth set-up since he was a teenager and has grown comfortable in that environment to the degree that he actively wants to play for Ireland, rather than England.
There's also the speculation (not sure if it's true) regarding Pilkington being unaware he qualified to play for Ireland, which hints that he holds no great affinity with the country or his Irish heritage.
Seen this on Pilkington's twitter:
Not sure if the inquirer is referring to England or Ireland.Quote:
RT @livergary: @Pilkington_11 do you think you will be picked for the world cup qualifiers in september?»» NO
So he played a game for Ireland but was still unaware that he qualified to play for them?Quote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
I think he means that Pilks was unaware he qualified until he was called up to the U21s.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crosby87
My view on all this is that Trap could put all it to bed in about 10 minutes by calling him and telling him he'd like to name him in a squad and ask Pilks to make up his mind. He obviously doesn't feel like he'll ever get a chance with England and if he was happy to bother his arse coming to play an underage game for us you'd imagine he'd be interested in playing for the senior team. I suspect we might see him after the Euros, though I think it's a shame that two of the EPL's star performers this season, Pilks and Hoolahan, will play no part for us in June.
hasnt hoolahan been in and out of the Norwich team all season? Has had a few eye catching performances but including him as one of the leagues star performers is pushing itQuote:
Originally Posted by Yard of Pace
He's started 22 of 33 games and appeared as a sub in a further 7. I can't say I have seen every Norwich game but any time I do he's pretty much central to everything good that they do. Gregg Roughley wrote a piece in the Guardian recently which featured this:Quote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
Any player who is now a "household name" surely must be considered a star performer this season, I would have thought. Norwich are now up to 10th, incidentally.Quote:
Norwich City's manager, Paul Lambert, polled second with 40%. His side are just one place below Swansea in 12th, having entertained with a no-fear approach while making household names of players with little to no previous Premier League experience: Grant Holt, Steve Morrison, Anthony Pilkington, Wes Hoolahan.
i think to characterise Hoolahan as anything other than a star performer for Norwich is doing him a disservice. Thats not exactly what you have said, granted, but he (along with Pilkington) has been a key part of a team that has superceded all expectations in the EPL this year. Holt has been one of the leagues star performers though, without question.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
Emile Heskey is a household name.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yard of Pace
From the Herald
"NORWICH midfielder Anthony Pilkington sent a clear message to Giovanni Trapattoni on Saturday night with a match-winning performance against Manchester United. Pilkington spoke with Ireland goalkeeping coach Alan Kelly last week and is expected to join up with the Irish team in 2013.":D
Hope he enjoys backing up Simon Cox :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapAPony
Wonderful news, if true. The MOTD commentator on Saturday night was exclaiming that he'd be getting an England call before long.
I'd be happy to see him called up. With Coleman reverting to RB, Duff retired, Hunt and Lawrence in the wilderness, McClean off the boil, and McGeady continuing to flatter to deceive, the wide midfield areas have become something of a problem position for us in the last 12 months.
Given that he's only 24 and we've recently seen 31 year-old Leon Osman gain England recognition, his chances of eventually getting a cap or more for England isn't far-fetched, particularly on the basis of his career's trajectory thus far.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapAPony
I hope there's basis to this story. Am I right in saying that the Herald isn't the most reliable source for this type of news? Positive nonetheless, but I don't understand why he hasn't been capped by now, especially when, in effect, he operates in a role which Trap loves to accommodate in his squads; a player who can play on the wing or but is of decent stature to play up front (Keogh, Cox, Walters etc.).
I mean, there are two reasons as to why he hasn't been capped at this stage:
1. Trap hasn't felt the need to call him up
2. Pilkington himself has been hesitant to pledge himself to Ireland
Well, now would be a strange time for Pilkington to over-come his hesitancy. And Trap has called him up once before, but he pulled out due to injury. So did Trap judge him not to be worthy of a place in his squads before and after that friendly?
Was he actually called up for a squad? I think there were only rumors that Trap inquired as to his availability for the Serbia friendly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
Trap denied that contact had been made about Pilkington joining up with the squad.
But it appears that some contact had been made, Trap had requested from Pilkington that he first get a passport and then commit himself to Ireland.
Hughton is one manager who would always do the right thing by Ireland
Don't think he was called up. Apparently, inquiries were made by FAI officials though: http://www.edp24.co.uk/sport/norwich...ahan_1_1480743Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
Shouldn't he already have an Irish passport from representing us previously?Quote:
But it appears that some contact had been made, Trap had requested from Pilkington that he first get a passport and then commit himself to Ireland.
It was a friendly, mind, and haven't there been suggestions that things are more lax for under-age friendly games? Interestingly, Séamus Coleman also played in that game: http://www.soccerscene.ie/ss21/matchdetails.php?id=39
Yeah I see there was a report on the FAI news pageQuote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
Trap welcomes squad for serbia friendly
"Following Wes Hoolahan's withdrawal from the squad on Friday (Achilles), Norwich City were contacted about the availability of Anthony Pilkington. However, Pilkington sustained a hamstring injury and came off after 65 minutes in a pre-season friendly yesterday and is not fit to report."
I suppose that amounts to a request. However, Trap denies that there was such a contact. Could be a case of a FAI official getting ahead of themselves, I wouldn't rule that out :)
Who knows, Trap just referred to him and passport.Quote:
Shouldn't he already have an Irish passport from representing us previously?
Unextrapolated quote from Trap,
"I sent SMS but at this moment we have to ask as we need to make the passport," Trapattoni told reporters. "We have doubt situation. He has good quality but we need time.
"Until now he must answer us. It’s not the first time. There is no contact, he is not our player," he added
Clearly, the FAI's Passport Production Department aren't what they used to be. Back in the day, I remember they managed to manufacture one for Tony Cascarino in no time!Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
I reckon if he keeps up these performances then he will surely be called up to England by that stage.
Why ?
Because there is a "doubt situation" existing.
Well, be amazed if England pick him...
Besides them, he's only eligible for Ireland?
Unless he's moving to Qatar...
Goal. Long ball over the top, Pilkington played on side by Kilgallon. Manages to get behind Kilgallon, though forced away from goal by Cuellar, cuts it back and in side Cuellar, and finishes past Mignolet into the corner from about 12 yards out.
Sunderland getting back into the game got they got one back to 2-1 then there was one of the most shocking misses I have ever seen, not sure
which Sunferland player is was, a fair haired one. Kilgallonn. Shocking miss worth seeing.
Wasn't Kilgallon mentioned as possibly being eligible a few years back?
He is mentioned here.Quote:
Originally Posted by JGKyne
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showt...p?t=2055756787
But judging by that miss we aren't missing much!!!
Pilkington goal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6lMc3lNOKE
I really can not under stand the mentality of someone who would make a clip cut so short at the start.
The start of the video is almost him drawing his foot back for the shot
The ball is in the back of the net before 2 seconds are up FFS!!
And here is the goal without the set up cut out.
There is a player offside but I don't think he counts, Pilks is close to offside but gets the benefit of the doubt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_HGcbAyj3Y
Good quality view of the miss hereQuote:
Originally Posted by tricky_colour
http://www.footytube.com/video/norwi...?ref=wv_relbox
Also not that Mark Bunn actually saved that shot by pushing it onto the post.
Also shows Pilk's goal which I thought was top class.
Not shown is where Killgallon gave away a free kick and also a penalty which was not awarded, however he still got a decent
rating on Sky Sports!! & players (including subs rated worse by users!!). Having said that there were mitigating circumstances
for each incident, ie the missed goal, the ball was fairly high when he put it over, but still a shocking miss.
'Giovanni Trapattoni to persuade Norwich midfielder Anthony Pilkington to declare for Ireland': http://www.goal.com/en-ie/news/3942/...ielder-anthony
Quote:
Republic of Ireland manager Giovanni Trapattoni is set to persuade Norwich City midfielder Anthony Pilkington that his senior international future lies with the Boys in Green, according to a report in the Sunday Times.
The 24-year-old Canaries midfielder was born in England but has represented Ireland once at under-21 level, appearing against Lithuania in 2008. However, he has yet to make a senior international appearance for Trapattoni's team.
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[A]ccording to the Sunday Times, the Football Association of Ireland (FAI) has since endeavoured to speed up the process, with goalkeeping coach Alan Kelly said to be assisting Pilkington with passport issues.
Speaking about the issue, Norwich City manager Chris Hughton, who played 53 times for Ireland, described the talk surrounding Pilkington's international future as 'irrelevant'.
"That is irrelevant because at this moment he hasn't had that opportunity (to play for Ireland)," he told the Sunday Times. "If he has the opportunity or a decision to make that would be based on the fact that he is playing very well."
Republic of Ireland international Kevin Kilbane, meanwhile, believes that Pilkington has been overlooked by Trapattoni 'for too long' and must be capped competitively.
"He has been overlooked for too long," said the former Everton midfielder. "There is still that possibility he could play for England and that decision should be taken away from him by giving him a run out in a competitive game."
Kilbane is a legend but should we not be giving Pilkington a competitive cap because he is better than other players available to us and not just to stop England from capping him?Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
I think Kilbane was alluding to the former by stating Pilkington "has been overlooked for too long".Quote:
Originally Posted by Irish_Praha
According to that report, he hasn't got a passport yet.
I think that confirms that you don't need a relevant passport in order to play any friendly at underage level, it appears that nobody gives a fleck who you play in the team.
The same ST article also said he was thinking about holding out for an England call-up, with Hodgson having seen him play a couple of times recently. There was no source for it though.
I'd completely believe this.
But the process of 'greening' him has begun in earnest and presumably he has agreed to participate in this process, which probably means he will be put in a situation where he will have to make a final decision - early next year.
Pilkington on course to make his senior debut
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...327874307.htmlQuote:
Anthony Pilkington is on course to make his senior international debut for the Republic of Ireland against Poland, according to Giovanni Trapattoni, who sounded a little surprised yesterday that Darron Gibson’s self-imposed exile from the squad shows no sign of ending.“I can say with certainty that he is very interested in playing for us,” said the Ireland manager in an end-of-year press conference with journalists. “He is honoured with the interest and the paperwork is being processed at the moment. Who knows, we might be able to see him in early February.”
The Italian said he will watch Norwich again over the Christmas period to monitor the form of both Pilkington, who has previously represented Ireland at under-21 level, and Wes Hoolahan, but he left little doubt about his desire to have the English-born winger on board.
“Absolutely,” he said. “I have seen him play in two or three matches and he is a very interesting player. He is a very particular type of player. He is technically excellent and he is very physical.
“He is really at ease playing both off his left and right foot. He is young and very aggressive with the ball. I don’t know if during my time here we have actually had that type of player, who is at ease both on the left and right wing, and who can come in and create difficulties for defences.
“I think he is a great threat in front of goal. There are a lot of different ways he can attack in the air. He has a great strike of the ball and he is not afraid to take a shot. He is excellent at set-pieces; his physical and technical attributes are there for everyone to see.
“He is a bit different from Duff, Lawrence, Hunt and even McClean. He is able to offer a lot in different areas of the pitch