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Yes, there is.
As Charlie Darwin said, Shams do have certain rights as tenants, especially, I think, if they've made their own improvements to the ground. And it hardly makes sense for SDCC to kick them out of Tallaght at any point in the future, they've spent money on the stadium, and they need the rent!Quote:
Originally Posted by osarusan
Someone was saying in the thread I lifted that picture from that Marlay Park is no longer being used for concerts. If that's true, Tallaght would be an ideal place to move them to. Nice stadium, with good transport links to town.
Not that I necessarily think it is the right thing to do, but Shams wouldn't have to be mad to consider the possibility of carrying out ground improvements.
The Marlay Park concerts this summer were astonishingly unsuccessful. Only the Coronas sold out (though some would say they had nothing to sell out from). The problem with using Tallaght for concerts would be summer football - I don't see how you could have a concert season without destroying the field. It's not like Croke Park.
I know nothing about pitch maintenance, but how long would it take to get the pitch right again after a concert? If there was a concert or two before the mid-season break, and Shams put in a request to play their games immediately before and after the break away from home, you could have 3 or 4 weeks after the concerts to get the pitch back to a perfect playing condition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
I'd think it was more about money than time. Croke Park had to be relaid after the U2 concerts - Tallaght probably wouldn't need anything that drastic but I can't see it being economical for the promoter.
I hope Shams get their games at Tallaght and not be out the €200,000 (whatever it costs) to rent Aviva for all 3 home games. The solutions for Shams would be to complete the stadium and bring it up to 10,000 seater capacity which would solve any European criteria for a long time to come. It would cost a few euro though and attendance during the year would never really justify it.
What are this guy's chances of getting a ticket . . .
Our chairman was on off the ball on newstalk last night where amongst other things he said there will be permanent seating installed in Tallaght in time for next Tuesday's UEFA inspection.
Can be listened to here http://media.newstalk.ie/listenback/...nesday/2/popup
How permanent is "permanent"? As in forevermore?
A question a Rovers insider can answer - have the club signed a lease with the SDCC and for how long (if they have signed).
It's hard to know. Permanent to fulfill the UEFA criteria doesn't have to mean permanent at all for the stadium. It could well be put up now and removed in December. I suppose it should become a bit clearer in the next day or two. I must remember to have a look on the way home to see if there's any activity there this evening.Quote:
Originally Posted by fionnsci
It'd be interesting to know whether the likes of Brays stand count as "permanant". If they do, that'd have to be the route if this seating is to be in by the inspection on Tuesday?
Roche did well on Off The Ball - it's always good to hear Early being uncomfortable out of his premier league comfort zone, and he must have been disgusted that the LoI infiltrated the football show. Roche also made all the right noises about investing in the training facility as well, rather than blowing it on players (again, the off the ball lads sounded a bit disappointed imo).
Any idea how many minutes of that toss I have to listen to before he comes on?Quote:
Originally Posted by HulaHoop
Murray's interview is the last 15 minutes of the linked clip. Jonathan Roche comes on about 15 minutes into part 3.
I believe they have a four year "agreement" and are allowed to use it on a stated number of occasions throughout the year ( 40 I heard mentioned) but no lease as it's a publicly owned,built and paid for and maintained facilityQuote:
Originally Posted by Spudulika
Rumours ( from Bohs and Pats sources so...) that the rent they pay is only about half of what would be the economic value.
There's no fixed "economic value" for a stadium. The market value is whatever the highest bidder is willing to pay. As far as I'm aware, Rovers are the only soccer club in a position to pay the rent and generate income from the stadium. Capacity is too small for the egg chasers and the pitch is too small for GAA.
Work on the new seating in full swing today and UEFA inspection was completed earlier according to Tallaght Stadium's Facebook page. Hopefully it'll get the green light.
Junior or reserve rugby games - as in the Argentina Jaguars match and junior gah games are ok, but obviously not that much of a market for it, in comparison to Rovers. Bohs and Pats sources are not good sources..Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Any pictures of the development work going on?
Hopefully all the games will be played in tallaght.
I know when we got through to the play-off round V PSG we done everything possible to get the game played in the Brandywell even though we could have made treble the gate money by moving it.
The atmosphere was unreal.
fk the barstoolers, look after your own fans and if their are any spares try and sell them to other L.O.I. fans who will be fully behind you's during the games.
Decision from UEFA tomorrow Wednesday.
Courtesy of ashbourne on srfcultrasforum.euQuote:
Originally Posted by legendz
http://i53.tinypic.com/2ewlkll.jpg
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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
That depends on what economic text book or theory you read. What you are referring to is exchange value. Their are many other ways to calculate value.
In today's climate, many would argue that it would be very dodgy if anyone were to use a State asset at less than its Full Economic Cost (FEC). I sincerely doubt that any LOI club renting community facilities pays enough to cover the FEC, including both Shamrock Rovers and Waterford United. This is a de facto subsidy. Does this offer an unfair advantage to the club renting community facilities? It's unclear, as although they are subsidised, they can't use the facility to raise monies, or to use it as collateral. It'd be very interesting to know what the various costs are. Cork City would also be interesting to analyse.
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Didnt know that could be classed as permanent.Do you know if Sham Rvs bought it or are just renting it?
And is it just one end of the goals or both?
It would be great if its passed.
Any news of a decision yet?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cuyahoga
No news since the previous update:Quote:
Originally Posted by ger121
Tuesday, 06 September 2011 15:34
Venue decision expected tomorrow (Wednesday) following today's UEFA inspection at Tallaght.
Earlier today, a representative from UEFA inspected the works at Tallaght Stadium that are underway to have the stadium passed for UEFA Europa League Group stage games. A decision on the suitability of the venue is expected from UEFA tomorrow (Wednesday).
Shamrock Rovers F.C., South Dublin County Council and the FAI have been working together to put in place the plans and infrastructure necessary to comply with UEFA regulations.
Still no word yet.
It's Tallaght
Great news!
Well done rovers. So is it both ends and what will be the capacity when it's finished?
Wey hey, good stuff Rovers!
Happy out with that :D
Nothing made public either way afaikQuote:
Originally Posted by soccerc
If it's allowed to go ahead, it's one end, the Car Park end and around to the East Stand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Candystripe
Completed stand - (ultras forum/facebake)
http://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/...43840498_n.jpg
Credible Twitter sources suggesting Tallaght is about to be confirmed.
It was also confirmed on the Ultra's forum earlier. Expected to be made official in the next hour.
I never doubted soccerc.
Great news if it is Tallaght Stadium, well done to all concerned. There should be some great European nights ahead for SRFC and the whole league.
Just one end. The other end is grass behind the goal. Apparently it has to be on a concrete base. So time didnt allow for the other end to be seated. Ground now holds around 8,500.Quote:
Originally Posted by Candystripe
Deadly. Can't wait for these games.
Did Rovers not have to get the capacity up to 10k?
8000 for Catergory 4 stadiums is all that was needed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_stadium_categories