Ireland to stage three group games and a round of 16 game at Euro 2020

Based on the evaluation there we are certs at the minute.

Two things though: Baku are hosting the European Games (http://www.baku2015.com/)(http://en....uropean_Games) next year so outside of distance they should be grand to be considered as one of the successful standard bids. It should also be noted that they have oil up the wazzu so cash isn't a problem. And UEFA like cash.

Parking shouldn't really be an issue given that most attendees would be tourists and we are an island as well as if we were to qualify most attendees would be from the island and getting to Dublin isn't too hard.

By the time this rolls around we hopefully will be prepping for RWC2023 as well... fingers crossed!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BonnieShels

Parking shouldn't really be an issue given that most attendees would be tourists and we are an island as well as if we were to qualify most attendees would be from the island and getting to Dublin isn't too hard.

---

Parking seems to be an issue for most cities.

Don't most of these tenders these days have some degree of environmental impact / ESG box to be ticked? Car Parking is unlikely to be a deal breaker in this context. The Aviva is a walk from the City centre which is probably unique. It's not like the champions league final in Istanbul in 2005 which was in the middle of nowhere and all the coaches suffered clutch failure due to the Alpe d'Huez style access roads.

the comment about transport from dublin airport being "multi nodal and modern" is a bit bizzare. its basically a few bus companys ferrying passeners into the city centre? not a rail or tram link in site.

That Aircoach is one comfy bus though

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by jbyrne

the comment about transport from dublin airport being "multi nodal and modern" is a bit bizzare. its basically a few bus companys ferrying passeners into the city centre? not a rail or tram link in site.

---

Yeah, but there's a tunnel!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by jbyrne

the comment about transport from dublin airport being "multi nodal and modern" is a bit bizzare. its basically a few bus companys ferrying passeners into the city centre? not a rail or tram link in site.

---

A lot of airports in Europe only have private transport so Dublin is actually decent in that respect

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Dodge

A lot of airports in Europe only have private transport so Dublin is actually decent in that respect

---

a few bus companies is hardly "multi-nodal" though. i cant wait to see a few thousand fans queuing for the aircoach on match day!

Does the report mention any concern about the fact that one of the main modes of transport is filthy and full of junkies? That parts of the city are inhospitable because of junkies?

I mean every time I have been in Dublin I have had to have eyes in the back of my head because of them. They are everywhere on Grafton Street and O'Connell Street - and those are our main streets! God help you if you are a smoker.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks

Does the report mention any concern about the fact that one of the main modes of transport is filthy and full of junkies? That parts of the city are inhospitable because of junkies?

I mean every time I have been in Dublin I have had to have eyes in the back of my head because of them. They are everywhere on Grafton Street and O'Connell Street - and those are our main streets! God help you if you are a smoker.

---

Enjoy living in your locked basement with your gun beside you...

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks

Does the report mention any concern about the fact that one of the main modes of transport is filthy and full of junkies? That parts of the city are inhospitable because of junkies?

I mean every time I have been in Dublin I have had to have eyes in the back of my head because of them. They are everywhere on Grafton Street and O'Connell Street - and those are our main streets! God help you if you are a smoker.

---

Load of pish.

As for 2020, given the flawed brand & concept UEFA are becoming, seriously who cares?

The tourism € would be good but really don't care either way. And Croke is a better stadium than the New Lansdowne anyway.

As well as the tourism, I think there's a feel good factor attached. That might be an alien concept to a cynic like yourself, but I think the majority of people like the thought of our little nation being part of a high profile event. It's far from the end of the world if it doesn't happen but it would be nice if it did. Who knows, by the time it comes around it might give you that warm fuzzy feeling inside :)

I don't see the relevance of CP being a better stadium.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy

And Croke is a better stadium than the New Lansdowne anyway.

---

all a matter of opinion but not for football imo. far too far away from the pitch in many CP seats. much closer to the action in lansdowne

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks

Does the report mention any concern about the fact that one of the main modes of transport is filthy and full of junkies? That parts of the city are inhospitable because of junkies?

I mean every time I have been in Dublin I have had to have eyes in the back of my head because of them. They are everywhere on Grafton Street and O'Connell Street - and those are our main streets! God help you if you are a smoker.

---

There is a very bad problem with junkies, homelessness in the city etc but it doesn't seem to bother any of the tourists which I have spoken to. They all can't say enough good things about Dublin and what a great city it is. All isn't perfect with Dublin and there's lots I'd like changed, but it is a great place. I think we have a great chance of getting games and while I'm not one of JD's biggest fans, I do think that he will have the UEFA crew eating out of his hand.

It's a far bigger problem in other cities - Köln for one, which hosted Germany v Ireland last year. Nobody commented on it then.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Bungle

I think we have a great chance of getting games and while I'm not one of JD's biggest fans, I do think that he will have the UEFA crew eating out of his hand.

---

http://cdn3.independent.ie/migration...342/enda-keeny

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by DeLorean

I don't see the relevance of CP being a better stadium.

---

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by jbyrne

all a matter of opinion but not for football imo. far too far away from the pitch in many CP seats. much closer to the action in lansdowne

---

The touchline seats maybe, but been in the ones in the top tier in both grounds and Croke is a far superior stadium in terms of both access and view.

That said, UEFA can GTF. Hopefully we'll host Israel and they'll be met with a wall of Palestinian flags...

Whatever about the football being played, Croke Park as a football stadium was poor for all involved. The Aviva isn't perfect but it's a much tighter space, the pitch is more reasonably-sized and fans are closer to the pitch. Maybe I was just unlucky, but the move to Croke Park meant my block booking went from fairly decent seats in the east upper to freezing seats in the nosebleed section of Croker and was one of factors in me not bothering to renew.

In the Upper Tiers, the view in CP is definitely superior. Though granted the NL is closer to the pitch.
Loved the old ground, but the new one has a rank 'atmosphere', in the main.

The old ground had the 'Lansdowne roar' but it was a kip. Personally, I think the further you are away from the action, the worse the view. The small pitch doesn't help either, creates the illusion you're even further away.

I was watching the European qualifiers roundup on Sky and was very envious of the number of compact 30k seater purpose-built footy stadiums in use, with every seat close to the pitch.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

Personally, I think the further you are away from the action, the worse the view.

---

No kidding, Charlie? Any other thoughts today? :D

Next week Chas switches his attention to, er, rocket science.

No, that new surgery at the Mayo Clinic where they can take part of the brain out of you (hopefully not TOWKS) and get rid of cancer and put the brain back in. (Hopefully not TOWKS). Thats poor Charlie. Whom I Love.

Yer posts are beyond abstract...

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy

Yer posts are beyond abstract...

---

However, in relation to TOWK, it would be a good thing!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Crosby87

No kidding, Charlie? Any other thoughts today? :D

---

It's a serious point :( Sometimes your view gets better as you move away from the action.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy

Loved the old ground, but the new one has a rank 'atmosphere', in the main.

---

thats more to do with the fans / lack of fans these days than the stadium. the poles created a super atmosphere last year and that was only a friendly

Was in Aviva for the FAI Cup Final last year, half-empty or more, but the atmosphere was great, largely thanks to the Sligo fans. It can be done.

Actually alot more to do with poxy all-seaters, but credit to the Poles & Sligo fans. But 2 out of around 50 teams that have played there is pretty fecking poor.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy

Actually alot more to do with poxy all-seaters, but credit to the Poles & Sligo fans. But 2 out of around 50 teams that have played there is pretty fecking poor.

---

the only team that really counts is our own though.
the old stadium was all seater also for qualifiers and was open at both ends yet it didnt stop us creating a good atmosphere most of the time.

Regardless, it means nothing in the context of hosting EURO 2020 games, which will probably be sell outs anyway (or close enough to it).

Unless it's say, Albania v.Norway?

Still no-one on here ever complains about 'event junkies'. UEFA still have more negatives than pluses IMO.

I had no idea you felt that way.

And you know, I do think Norwegians like football. Albania too.

I think UEFA probably has more pluses than negatives. I think they're in a tough position. TV stations want to dictate the football landscape and UEFA has constructed a credible compromise between what the big clubs and big TV stations want, and what the whole game wants and respecting traditions. Complying with EU labour law (Bosman) put UEFA in a tough position too.

What is your particular beef with UEFA?

Qatar support and Platini family link via PSG? Disgraceful.
FFP? Great idea, 15+ years too late.
Champions League? Good competition. UEFA had to bend to big clubs' demands for more rounds.
Europa League? Bit of a joke, too many teams. Same root cause though.
Expanded Euros? Bad idea, tolerable as a one off though.
Multiple hosts for 2020? I think this is a great idea. I don't see why so many writers dislike it.
Refusal to allow cross border leagues? I can see their position but think they could explore more options, some of which I have mooted on other threads.
Relationship with FIFA? I think UEFA is the only place showing any ability to encourage debate. Every other continental confederation is eating of of Blatter's hands.
They are taking a tough stand on third party ownership, but are fighting a really tough battle.
Other issues?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

Other issues?

---

the €25,000 watches that some UEFA delegates received in Brazil during the WC and accepted until a british newspaper highlighted it was against FIFAs own rules and they will now return them. not sure of the full story but its along these lines.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by jbyrne

the €25,000 watches that some UEFA delegates received in Brazil during the WC and accepted until a british newspaper highlighted it was against FIFAs own rules and they will now return them. not sure of the full story but its along these lines.

---

That was FIFA delegates, not UEFA, no?

And they were only worth $25,000, not euro :)

Apropos of nothing, I can only assume that if 2020 is a success, this will be how UEFA does the Euros from then on, unless they alternate between that and the bigger nations (Germany, Spain, Italy, England) that are capable of hosting it without bankrupting themselves. Think recent tournaments have made clear that even co-hosting has limited benefits for countries.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

I think UEFA probably has more pluses than negatives. I think they're in a tough position. TV stations want to dictate the football landscape and UEFA has constructed a credible compromise between what the big clubs and big TV stations want, and what the whole game wants and respecting traditions. Complying with EU labour law (Bosman) put UEFA in a tough position too.

What is your particular beef with UEFA?

Qatar support and Platini family link via PSG? Disgraceful.
FFP? Great idea, 15+ years too late.
Champions League? Good competition. UEFA had to bend to big clubs' demands for more rounds.
Europa League? Bit of a joke, too many teams. Same root cause though.
Expanded Euros? Bad idea, tolerable as a one off though.
Multiple hosts for 2020? I think this is a great idea. I don't see why so many writers dislike it.
Refusal to allow cross border leagues? I can see their position but think they could explore more options, some of which I have mooted on other threads.
Relationship with FIFA? I think UEFA is the only place showing any ability to encourage debate. Every other continental confederation is eating of of Blatter's hands.
They are taking a tough stand on third party ownership, but are fighting a really tough battle.
Other issues?

---

Fair points you raise, but could point out just as many negatives as positives in general. Mainly that like FIFA, they seem too corrupt and their vision of the sport is too detached from a significant minority of fans...