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07/11/2009, 8:47 PM
Ezeikial

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Originally Posted by SkStu

That said, it was the best decision our former board ever made.

To appoint him or to sack him?

Only kidding you:D
07/11/2009, 8:56 PM
Ezeikial

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Originally Posted by galwayjames

A winter of uncertainty for Dundalk it seems though Stephen Kenny is the best option and should attract some of his current lot from Derry so maybe not too bad.

A winter of uncertainty looms for most clubs and players with about 90% of players out of contract

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Originally Posted by Infadel

....despite the fact our board are trying to be realistic with regards to next seasons budget he still wanted a full time outfit with a similar budget

Dundalk will most likely be full time or mainly full time next season with the budget being described today as "slightly less then this season" (i.e. close to the current �9k - which will probably have equal buying power in a depressed player market)

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Originally Posted by jinxy lilywhite

I think this will be a blessing in disguise for us in the long run.

I suspect you are right

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Originally Posted by jinxy lilywhite

BTW if connor wanted to stay he would off taken any budget on offer from the board and worked with that

This was speculated on in local media recently, but I think this is a total red herring for the reasons stated above about the budget. His departure has nothing to do with the budget.
07/11/2009, 9:06 PM
White Horse

First of all, I'd like to thank Sean Connor for re-establishing Dundalk as a Permier League club.

Secondly, I think it is a wise decision for him to move on. He carries far too much baggage and brought undue attention on the club from officials. His man-mangement and ability to enforce discipline is also suspect.

Dundalk will now be in a position to attract a much better manager than last year.
07/11/2009, 9:22 PM
Dillonman

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Originally Posted by White Horse

First of all, I'd like to thank Sean Connor for re-establishing Dundalk as a Permier League club.

Secondly, I think it is a wise decision for him to move on. He carries far too much baggage and brought undue attention on the club from officials. His man-mangement and ability to enforce discipline is also suspect.

Dundalk will now be in a position to attract a much better manager than last year.

Will we or will available managers out there see the job and go "oh thats that club who sack their manager for achieving success every year...better not go there or ill be sacked if I dont win the Champions League"!
07/11/2009, 9:23 PM
galwayjames

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Originally Posted by Dillonman

Will we or will available managers out there see the job and go "oh thats that club who sack their manager for achieving success every year...better not go there or ill be sacked if I dont win the Champions League"!

Stephen Kenny is pretty much there as it is
07/11/2009, 9:30 PM
White Horse

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Originally Posted by Dillonman

Will we or will available managers out there see the job and go "oh thats that club who sack their manager for achieving success every year...better not go there or ill be sacked if I dont win the Champions League"!

Sacking John Gill, and particularly the manner of the dismissal, was very disrespectful.

Connor leaving is very different. However many clubs would tolerate our disiplinary record this year?

I don't see Connor departure as scareing top managers.

There will only be four clubs with 2,000 plus crowds next season, Rovers, Bohs, Cork (if they survive), and Dundalk.

Fenlon and O'Neill are going nowhere. Dundalk are one of the few available top jobs.
07/11/2009, 9:35 PM
Dillonman

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Originally Posted by White Horse

Sacking John Gill, and particularly the manner of the dismissal, was very disrespectful.

Connor leaving is very different. However many clubs would tolerate our disiplinary record this year?

I don't see Connor departure as scareing top managers.

There will only be four clubs with 2,000 plus crowds next season, Rovers, Bohs, Cork (if they survive), and Dundalk.

Fenlon and O'Neill are going nowhere. Dundalk are one of the few available top jobs.

But what Im saying is that managers at the moment will be looking for some sort of stability in a job that if they do a decent job, they'll be kept on the season after but with constant changes year after year there will be doubts in their minds in going for the DFC job.
07/11/2009, 11:40 PM
Ezeikial

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Originally Posted by Dillonman

But what Im saying is that managers at the moment will be looking for some sort of stability in a job that if they do a decent job, they'll be kept on the season after but with constant changes year after year there will be doubts in their minds in going for the DFC job.

I suspect that Dundalk will also be looking for stability in the managerial appointment.

The potential is there for all to see - good support, a decent budget, an intelligent and pragmatic owner in Gerry Matthews, a �5.5m Youth Development Centre.

If Pat Fenlon is the most successful current manager in LoI, he did not appear to be unduly worried about becoming the 8th Bohs manager in 10 years when he took over (by contrast Dundalk have had 9 managers in the 25 years since 1974!)
08/11/2009, 12:01 AM
PartySaint

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Originally Posted by White Horse

There will only be four clubs with 2,000 plus crowds next season, Rovers, Bohs, Cork (if they survive), and Dundalk.

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Alot of our fans are fickle, if we start the season well we could easily get 2,000 at our home games
08/11/2009, 5:05 AM
SkStu

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Originally Posted by Ezeikial

If Pat Fenlon is the most successful current manager in LoI, he did not appear to be unduly worried about becoming the 8th Bohs manager in 10 years when he took over (by contrast Dundalk have had 9 managers in the 25 years since 1974!)

just to set the record straight, Pat Fenlon is our tenth manager since 1974. Your next will be your tenth since 1974. Samesies... :D
08/11/2009, 9:19 AM
foxfordred

connor is the most obnoxious little piece of s--t it has been my misfortune to meet and chris turner has signed a pre contract agreement with shamrock rovers and you can expect a few more to leave
08/11/2009, 10:24 AM
Nedser

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Originally Posted by SkStu

just to set the record straight, Pat Fenlon is our tenth manager since 1974. Your next will be your tenth since 1974. Samesies... :D

Or to put Ezeikial's twisting of statistics in better perspective, Fenlon is our 11th manager in 119 years. :p

Or to directly respond to his "8th manager in 10 years" comment, Fenlon is also our 8th manager in 16 years. Your new manager will be your 8th in the same period.
08/11/2009, 4:26 PM
Knappagh Red

[QUOTE=showgies;1259730]
Faz
Sean had him in the middle of the park, he only really shone for us when Leo Tierney played him up front.

Adam Hughes � Sean saw him as a right winger, when moved into middle of the park by Cook, he became a threat and scored more goals

[/QUOTE

I think you're getting mixed up there showgies, Connor usually played Faz on the wing and it was Cook who moved Hughes to right wing to accomadate his chubby scouser mate Mark Boyd, agree with the rest of yuor post though
08/11/2009, 10:03 PM
R�iteoir

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Originally Posted by SkStu

just to set the record straight, Pat Fenlon is our tenth manager since 1974. Your next will be your tenth since 1974. Samesies... :D

That's not at all like Ezekiel to be incorrect with figures concerning Bohs - he's normally so clued up about that area of the League.

Or so he keeps telling us...
08/11/2009, 10:18 PM
SligoBrewer

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Originally Posted by Knappagh Red

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Originally Posted by showgies

Faz
Sean had him in the middle of the park, he only really shone for us when Leo Tierney played him up front.

Adam Hughes � Sean saw him as a right winger, when moved into middle of the park by Cook, he became a threat and scored more goals

I think you're getting mixed up there showgies, Connor usually played Faz on the wing and it was Cook who moved Hughes to right wing to accomadate his chubby scouser mate Mark Boyd, agree with the rest of yuor post though

Nope, he's right.

Hughes was number 7 for us in 2006, and played on the right wing. Faz and O'Grady were in the middle.
08/11/2009, 10:55 PM
R�iteoir

It's a shame that Connor's gone - he was lining up this new signing for next season

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4Piuuqqs10
08/11/2009, 11:22 PM
LeixlipRed

Man that's hot. See ya all tomorrow, I'm clocking off
08/11/2009, 11:25 PM
Ezeikial

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Originally Posted by R�iteoir

That's not at all like Ezekiel to be incorrect with figures concerning Bohs - he's normally so clued up about that area of the League.

Or so he keeps telling us...

Some of you guys are so touchy - and seem very eager to take offense.

If you care to read the post, the central point was not about your beloved Bohemian FC (more obsession about being anti-Bohs), but about was making the point that a following a period of managerial changes at a club need not be a barrier to the incoming manager.

For the record, what I said about managerial changes at Bohs is factually correct (as is what Stu said)

Including Pat Fenlons appointment in 2007 the list is:
1) Pat Fenlon
2) Sean Connor
3) Gareth Farrelly
4) Stephen Kenny
5) Pete Mahon
6) Roddy Collins
7) Joe McGrath
8) Turlough O'Connor

While I don't think you are right, I do appreciate your compliment on being "clued up" on Bohs - you are a right flatterer!
09/11/2009, 12:59 AM
SkStu

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Originally Posted by Ezeikial

If you care to read the post, the central point was not about your beloved Bohemian FC (more obsession about being anti-Bohs), but about was making the point that a following a period of managerial changes at a club need not be a barrier to the incoming manager.

to be fair i got the point you were making - but because you chose Bohs as your comparator, i was just providing the correct stats for us since 1974 which is what you used for yourselves.... :)
09/11/2009, 1:22 AM
SkStu

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Originally Posted by R�iteoir

It's a shame that Connor's gone - he was lining up this new signing for next season

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4Piuuqqs10

not going to give me any credit for unearthing that gem then Reitoir? :mad: Bad form ya thieving gypsy ;)
09/11/2009, 10:34 AM
Ezeikial

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Originally Posted by SkStu

to be fair i got the point you were making - but because you chose Bohs as your comparator, i was just providing the correct stats for us since 1974 which is what you used for yourselves.... :)

SkStu - I assumed that you did understand the point.

Not so sure about Nedser and Reiteoir though. There tends to be a great haste to take offense to any reference to Bohs, even though it should be obvious when none was intended.

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Originally Posted by Nedser

Or to put Ezeikial's twisting of statistics in better perspective, Fenlon is our 11th manager in 119 years. :p
09/11/2009, 11:57 AM
R�iteoir

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Originally Posted by Ezeikial

Not so sure about Nedser and Reiteoir though. There tends to be a great haste to take offense to any reference to Bohs, even though it should be obvious when none was intended.

Looks like you're not too hot at picking out a sarcastic post when it's made.

We'll leave it at that and move on to other matters shall we?
09/11/2009, 5:00 PM
the-blue-harp

sean connor is as good an irish export as "jedward"
09/11/2009, 5:16 PM
SMorgan

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Originally Posted by R�iteoir

It's a shame that Connor's gone - he was lining up this new signing for next season

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4Piuuqqs10

She certainly didn't get away with it. She was given an indefinite ban.
10/11/2009, 3:18 PM
Hitman

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Originally Posted by jinxy lilywhite

It will be difficult to see the break up of this team and on the pitch we where very successful but I feel all this team will be only remembered for is team of hackers with our 20 red cards this season.

Sorry for going a bit off topic, but what was the actual number of sendings off this year? As I'm extremely busy and productive at work, I tracked down 16 in the league and 2 in the cup in total, but as that was relying largely on RTE it's likely to be out. The following and Jinxy's post suggest 19 before the Derry game, does anyone know if that's right?
http://www.argus.ie/sport/soccer/dun...e-1933608.html
10/11/2009, 3:22 PM
The Betting Man

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Originally Posted by Hitman

Sorry for going a bit off topic, but what was the actual number of sendings off this year? As I'm extremely busy and productive at work, I tracked down 16 in the league and 2 in the cup in total, but as that was relying largely on RTE it's likely to be out. The following and Jinxy's post suggest 19 before the Derry game, does anyone know if that's right?
http://www.argus.ie/sport/soccer/dun...e-1933608.html

18 Players got red cards and the manager got a red which makes it 19 for one season
10/11/2009, 3:32 PM
Duffman

+Darren Mansaram = 20
10/11/2009, 4:49 PM
bennocelt

So what about this Benin job then????:)
10/11/2009, 5:01 PM
SligoBrewer

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Originally Posted by bennocelt

So what about this Benin job then????:)

I really doubt they'd appoint a non native Francophone to the post in all seriousness.
10/11/2009, 5:40 PM
sligoman

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Originally Posted by SligoBrewer

I really doubt they'd appoint a non native Francophone to the post in all seriousness.

Je suis un ami de Steve Bruce...that's all he needs to say really.
10/11/2009, 8:33 PM
Bohs11

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Originally Posted by SligoBrewer

I really doubt they'd appoint a non native Francophone to the post in all seriousness.

They have appointed two german managers before
15/11/2009, 10:11 PM
Ezeikial

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Originally Posted by roversforever

. I know most of the players that played for him during his sligo rovers reign and i've yet to meet one who has a good word to say about him..not one.

roversforever, I though you might be interested in what Chris Turner had to say about Sean Connor in an interview with Dundalk Democrat newspaper, AFTER he signed for Sligo:

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Turner also questioned the club's decision to part company with Connor, despite the Belfast man taking Dundalk to a 5th placed finish in their first season back in the Premier Division.

"I think Sean knew it was going to happen for a while", he said. "He wanted his budget for next season sorted out a few months ago so he could plan ahead. When the club didn't do that I think he knew his time was coming up. Sean is the type of character who you either love or hate. Some people didn't get him and I think they have been trying to get him out since he came to the club but he did a great job and his record speaks for itself."

And Turner - more than anybody else - will be keeping a close eye on what his former manager does next after revealing that he has an amazing stipulation in his contract which could see him re-united with Connor in the future.

"I've signed a two year deal with Sligo but there's a clause in there that says I can leave if Sean joins a League of Ireland club. I love working with him

I hope you get to meet CT this time around!!!

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