Jamie O'Hara

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Originally Posted by Morbo

Agreed, if there was a POTM on this board that would get my vote.

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It's in the off topic section.

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Originally Posted by lopez

To paraphrase the Italian manager of the team that won the 1934 World Cup: If you are entitled to fight for Ireland, you're entitled to play for Ireland. End of!

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That was Trap wasn't it?

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Originally Posted by SkStu

couldnt have said it better - and scarily similar to the deals struck with my wife - in my case swap Australia for Canada and France for Croatia.

Only one team my sons will be playing for.

Great post Silkcut.

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:) I am married to an American and live in the states, It warms my heart to see Kilbanes passion for Ireland, there is only one national side I would ever want my son to play for

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Originally Posted by mr.untitled

:) I am married to an American and live in the states, It warms my heart to see Kilbanes passion for Ireland, there is only one national side I would ever want my son to play for

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Remember this is not a decision for either you or your son. You will be required to submit yourself to the "Murfinator test of Irishness" first.

If you fail, for whatever reason..eg..lower than the requisite number of freckles..you will be requested to stay the hell away from the Irish team.

I moved away from Ireland when I was 21. I now live in England and have done for many a year. When I have my own kids with my girlfriend here I will teach them all about Ireland's rich history, it's culture, it's far flung people and music. I will take them on holidays back home to the green fields of Dublin's North inner city, the place which I still call home. I'll take them to their grandfather and uncles who'll introduce them to that old Irish family tradition, intravenous drug use. I will love them with all my heart and I hope they will feel more Irish then many of my own Dublin born and bred family back home.

However when the war kicks off again they'll be the first Brits to be put to the sword by my own hand.

Long live Ireland.

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Originally Posted by youngirish

I moved away from Ireland when I was 21. I now live in England and have done for many a year. When I have my own kids with my girlfriend here I will teach them all about Ireland's rich history, it's culture, it's far flung people and music. I will take them on holidays back home to the green fields of Dublin's North inner city, the place which I still call home. I'll take them to their grandfather and uncles who'll introduce them to that old Irish family tradition, intravenous drug use. I will love them with all my heart and I hope they feel more Irish then many of my own Dublin born and bred family back home.

However when the war kicks off again they'll be the first Brits to be put to the sword by my own hand.

Long live Ireland.

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Well that made me laugh pretty loudly

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Originally Posted by youngirish

I moved away from Ireland when I was 21. I now live in England and have done for many a year. When I have my own kids with my girlfriend here I will teach them all about Ireland's rich history, it's culture, it's far flung people and music. I will take them on holidays back home to the green fields of Dublin's North inner city, the place which I still call home. I'll take them to their grandfather and uncles who'll introduce them to that old Irish family tradition, intravenous drug use. I will love them with all my heart and I hope they will feel more Irish then many of my own Dublin born and bred family back home.

However when the war kicks off again they'll be the first Brits to be put to the sword by my own hand.

Long live Ireland.

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Spoken like a true patriot...................you pass the test.:D

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Originally Posted by youngirish

I moved away from Ireland when I was 21. I now live in England and have done for many a year. When I have my own kids with my girlfriend here I will teach them all about Ireland's rich history, it's culture, it's far flung people and music. I will take them on holidays back home to the green fields of Dublin's North inner city, the place which I still call home. I'll take them to their grandfather and uncles who'll introduce them to that old Irish family tradition, intravenous drug use. I will love them with all my heart and I hope they will feel more Irish then many of my own Dublin born and bred family back home.

However when the war kicks off again they'll be the first Brits to be put to the sword by my own hand.

Long live Ireland.

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For your sake I hope you are better at selecting girlfriends than footballers.

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Originally Posted by mr.untitled

:) I am married to an American and live in the states, It warms my heart to see Kilbanes passion for Ireland, there is only one national side I would ever want my son to play for

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good man, same here! though the little fat sh!te wouldn't be much use as he can't even crawl yet... :D

YI, i object to the uncles and grandfathers, that is a dublin thing only.

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Originally Posted by ken foree

good man, same here! though the little fat sh!te wouldn't be much use as he can't even crawl yet... :D

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and that is not my wife i'm talking about

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Originally Posted by paul_oshea

Silkcut it might break your heart but he might still well do it, ive found australians even second generation to be very ego-centric, maybe thats a bit strong a word but given its relative isolation to this part of the world they are very much an us and them which is demonstrated particularly in the rugby and international rules.

Anyway great post!

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Ha ha that is very true, he could hate me!!! Aussies are'nt ego centric when it comes to sport though, I can see how it might come across that way but they are just fiercely proud and incredibly driven. They hate to lose. They invest so much money in sport it is amazing, there is a government funded institute of sport in every state, massive new stadiums in every city, Melbourne alone has the MCG, Etihad Stadium, Rod Laver Arena, and Olympic park, plus a huge swimming stadium and several other AFL stadiums, and they are building another stadium just for sports played on rectangular pitches. Their commitment is amazing, it is no wonder they win so often. People just love to play sport. When they win they are not half as annoying as other nations not as far away from Ireland. After hammering us in thomond park there was no fanfare or gloating, some commentators even said we had a very understrength team out!
We would have done well to invest some of our money (when we had it) as well as Australia does.

All that said, my son will be Irish.

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Originally Posted by SilkCut

Ha ha that is very true, he could hate me!!! Aussies are'nt ego centric when it comes to sport though, I can see how it might come across that way but they are just fiercely proud and incredibly driven. They hate to lose. They invest so much money in sport it is amazing, there is a government funded institute of sport in every state, massive new stadiums in every city, Melbourne alone has the MCG, Etihad Stadium, Rod Laver Arena, and Olympic park, plus a huge swimming stadium and several other AFL stadiums, and they are building another stadium just for sports played on rectangular pitches. Their commitment is amazing, it is no wonder they win so often. People just love to play sport. When they win they are not half as annoying as other nations not as far away from Ireland. After hammering us in thomond park there was no fanfare or gloating, some commentators even said we had a very understrength team out!
We would have done well to invest some of our money (when we had it) as well as Australia does.

All that said, my son will be Irish.

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not just irish but from longford aswell! :D

If a player does change alliances and decides to play for us then you have to compliment him on it because it takes a lot of guts to turn your back on your country of birth.
For instance I am also eligible to declare for Wales but I would find it next to impossible to ever play for them as I couldn't bring myself to do it.

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Originally Posted by rambler14

If a player does change alliances and decides to play for us then you have to compliment him on it because it takes a lot of guts to turn your back on your country of birth.
For instance I am also eligible to declare for Wales but I would find it next to impossible to ever play for them as I couldn't bring myself to do it.

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if i qualified and problem! was good enough i'd most certianly play if i wasnt going to get a look in with ireland! i qalify for england tho so id never have that

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Originally Posted by rambler14

If a player does change alliances and decides to play for us then you have to compliment him on it because it takes a lot of guts to turn your back on your country of birth.
For instance I am also eligible to declare for Wales but I would find it next to impossible to ever play for them as I couldn't bring myself to do it.

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Ya cos they are crap! :D

Acornvilla can you translate that from your native tongue(whatever that is :p) to english

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Originally Posted by paul_oshea

Ya cos they are crap! :D

Acornvilla can you translate that from your native tongue(whatever that is :p) to english

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:D
pretty much i'd have no problem playing for a different country if i got the chance.. haha only read my post back now thanks for that

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Originally Posted by amaccann

I don't want to qualify that badly that I'm willing to let in a bunch of English players with borderline ancestry, just because the rules have changed. It simply cheapens the notion of international football.

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Good, we don't need ya!

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Originally Posted by rambler14

If a player does change alliances and decides to play for us then you have to compliment him on it because it takes a lot of guts to turn your back on your country of birth.

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In fairness, it doesnt take a lot of guts to choose going to a World Cup / Inflating my Sale Price / Earning better wages as an international player versus not doing this.

Unfortuantely for some players this is the criteria involved in making the decision.

The following was posted on OWC earlier today -

"There's a lot of speculation in the press today that ROI are going to get former England u21 internationals kevin nolan, kyle naughton (whose in the current set-up) gary mcsheffrey and jamie o'hara to declare for them.

Jamie O'Hara's dad is apparently from Magherafelt, hopefully the IFA is also trying to get him on board, especially when one considers the recent success we have had at recruiting English born players at underage level.

Think its more probable he will declare for ROI however, as they seem to be more active in trying to recruit him."

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Did anyone here read about this? Could anyone provide a link to it?

(.......it might just be a slow news day)

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Originally Posted by The Fly

The following was posted on OWC earlier today -

"There's a lot of speculation in the press today that ROI are going to get former England u21 internationals kevin nolan, kyle naughton (whose in the current set-up) gary mcsheffrey and jamie o'hara to declare for them.

Jamie O'Hara's dad is apparently from Magherafelt, hopefully the IFA is also trying to get him on board, especially when one considers the recent success we have had at recruiting English born players at underage level.

Think its more probable he will declare for ROI however, as they seem to be more active in trying to recruit him."

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Did anyone here read about this? Could anyone provide a link to it?

(.......it might just be a slow news day)

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Erm didn't McSheffrey play for the Scots?

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Originally Posted by Kingdom

Erm didn't McSheffrey play for the Scots?

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No dont think so

i don't want o'hara, nolan or naughton in the irish team :mad:

maguire, mcgeady, kilbane fine but not those others.

my other country belgium is like france we have many players born in foreign countries but they grow up in belgiums football culture. this is not like ireland. it sucks to see this.

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Originally Posted by youngirish

I moved away from Ireland when I was 21. I now live in England and have done for many a year. When I have my own kids with my girlfriend here I will teach them all about Ireland's rich history, it's culture, it's far flung people and music. I will take them on holidays back home to the green fields of Dublin's North inner city, the place which I still call home. I'll take them to their grandfather and uncles who'll introduce them to that old Irish family tradition, intravenous drug use. I will love them with all my heart and I hope they will feel more Irish then many of my own Dublin born and bred family back home.

However when the war kicks off again they'll be the first Brits to be put to the sword by my own hand.

Long live Ireland.

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Now that's got my vote for POTM. Brilliant. :D

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Originally Posted by Kingdom

Erm didn't McSheffrey play for the Scots?

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I think his family could from the Derry/Donegal area. Though, the only reason I say that is because he's a relative of someone I know.

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Originally Posted by Predator

I think his family could from the Derry/Donegal area. Though, the only reason I say that is because he's a relative of someone I know.

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Thanks Predator. I googled and found that McLeish had tried to coax him to the Scots when he was boss.

Personally I don't think he's anything to get worked up over.

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Originally Posted by Kingdom

Thanks Predator. I googled and found that McLeish had tried to coax him to the Scots when he was boss.

Personally I don't think he's anything to get worked up over.

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Yeah, I know it didn't offer much to the question... I wasn't aware of any ties to Scotland though!

The Herald has a story about a Tomas Juktiewiciez (or something to that effect), an Everton reserve team striker who is eligible for us. He's on loan to Motherwell and has scored a few in the bastion of football that is the SPL.

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Originally Posted by irishultra

i don't want o'hara, nolan or naughton in the irish team :mad:

maguire, mcgeady, kilbane fine but not those others.

my other country belgium is like france we have many players born in foreign countries but they grow up in belgiums football culture. this is not like ireland. it sucks to see this.

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whats the difference between O'Hara and Maguire? I understand ur reasoning for Nolan and Naughton because they have turned us down

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Originally Posted by DeNiro

The Herald has a story about a Tomas Juktiewiciez (or something to that effect), an Everton reserve team striker who is eligible for us. He's on loan to Motherwell and has scored a few in the bastion of football that is the SPL.

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eligible for us, England and Poland according to wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lukas_Jutkiewicz

English-born Jutkiewicz is eligible to play for THREE countries thanks to his Irish mum and Polish grandfather.
And despite reports claiming he has already decided to represent the Poles the hitman insists he's keeping his options open.
Lukas said: "It has become a common misconception that I've nailed my colours to Poland's mast at international level.
"I haven't made any decision yet. I'm eligible to play for them but I'm not sure how aware Poland are or how forthcoming they would be with a call-up. "Until anything happens I will keep my options open.
"As well as England I can also play for Ireland. I haven't played with any of them at youth level and don't have a preference.
"If I'm playing well for a club it will take care of itself and I will have a decision to make.
"However, at this stage no one from any of the three associations has contacted me about a possible call-up."

Anyone seen Motherwell in action of late?

He isnt that highly thought of at Everton, poor attitude apparently. He was signed for £1m+ and when Everton had no fit strikers available he was left in Scotland

He was at Huddersfield last year.
From Down at the Mac forum:

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It justs shows how crap scottish football is if he is the third top scorer in the highest league in scotland, he was absolutly ****e when he was on loan...whats changed?

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As you said, it shows just how crap that league is. Maybe he's learnt how to run, move, breathe, put some effort in, etc.

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Unfortunately his idea of effort was to breathe. He did little else.

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I hate him

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Originally Posted by boovidge

"As well as England I can also play for Ireland. I haven't played with any of them at youth level and don't have a preference.

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Am right off with ya so, no interest, thank you.

have a little inside knowledge that Kyle Naughton is seriously interested in playing for Ireland.

he wasnt that interested this time last year

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Originally Posted by irishultra

he wasnt that interested this time last year

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true but just passing on what I have heard.

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Originally Posted by Strongbow10

true but just passing on what I have heard.

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Hi Kyle :D

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Originally Posted by Strongbow10

have a little inside knowledge that Kyle Naughton is seriously interested in playing for Ireland.

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If it's only a 'little' then you won't get in too much trouble for telling us.

Trapattoni last Thursday 22-Nov: "Getting a striker is important for us. We have a list of players we are after. We are monitoring the situation and someone on our behalf has asked the players if they want to play with us.
"One or two are not sure because they can also play for the England Under-21s.

"We have a defender, a winger and an attacker lined up but we cannot say who they are just yet."

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I think this could go down as one of Trap's most unwise public statements.


England had their eye wiped in the past when Mark Lawrenson and Terry Dixon were ignored at underage level and played for Ireland.


Don't be surprised if Noble, Naughton and O'Hara are called into the England squad by Capello for one of their several friendlies in the run-up to the World Cup and capped. One cap is enough to prevent them playing for Ireland.