The commentator said yesterday that Terry earns more in a week than the Burnley players combined. Amazing stat really. At least he scored in the correct box this time ;)
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The commentator said yesterday that Terry earns more in a week than the Burnley players combined. Amazing stat really. At least he scored in the correct box this time ;)
Yeah United's games aren't getting much easier either though. Villa and Everton away in next 3 matches, plus AC Milan of course. Could really do with Vidic back.Quote:
Originally Posted by shakermaker1982
I watched the Chelsea game last night on some foreign channel in the pub. Hull were excellent at times, played lovely football in the 2nd half, retaining the ball very well. Hunt was excellent but the best player on the pitch for me was a fella I had never heard of before, Tom Cairney. He's only after turning 19 and was playing centre midfield, lovely and composed on the ball, accurately passing with a nice left foot. I was hoping that the surname was actually Kearney and that he might have been one of our own but unfortunately he is English.
Looked good alright so I too did some googling!Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
http://www.hullcityafc.net/page/Prof...~47766,00.html
Scottish U19
Didn't mention that on Wikipedia, it does now. He could form a nice midfield partnership with Fletcher for the Scots. Seriously impressive last night in a very difficult match.
I see Avram Grant was seen leaving a brothel aka a "massage parlour". Things seem to be going ars*ways at Portsmouth.
Mrs Grant sounds like a cool wife....didn't even bat an eyelid.
Watched most of the Birmingham vs WOlves games. Doyle was outstanding and Foley did ok. Fahey came on and assisted in Birmingham's equaliser.
Wolves will do well to avoid relegation. Defence doesn't look good. Only Portsmouth look doomed but the rest of the places are anyone's.
Man U and Chelsea pull away.
On Newstalk last night they read out a text from a listener which went something like "Ignore Dunphy's bets. Bet on an Everton win (4-1) and an Arsenal win (evens)". I wish I had followed his advice. Still a two horse race despite the Arsenal win imho and the musical chairs at the bottom continue.
Ricky Sbragia's record as Sunderland manager: Played 25, Won 6, Drawn 12, Lost 7.
Steve Bruce's record as Sunderland manager: Played 30, Won 9, Drawn 12, Lost 9.
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Originally Posted by Rafa B
rafa benetiz record this season.. played 26 won 13 , drawn 5 , lost 8 see we can all throw out facts ....
My post has nothing to do with Rafa Benitez or are you just blind? Anyway talking about his bad season has been done to death? Has Sunderland and Steve Bruces been? I know when they went on a good run earlier in the season it was all the talk how he'd turn them around. This is the EPL thread so i am perfectly entitled to discuss other managers and clubs other than Benitez. Always one smart arse though!
being called rafa b ... so obvisously a liverpool fan ?? so having a go at other managers / clubs record while chosing toQuote:
Originally Posted by Rafa B
ignore liverpool/ benetiz record in comparison some may say this is the actions of a smart arse ;)
but yes at the moment sunderland do seem to be in freefall and could do with getting a few wins quickly
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Originally Posted by old git
Good guess i am a Liverpool supporter!!! Choose to ignore my own teams/managers failings are you for real get a grip please for fcuks sake. I am entitled to talk about other foortball clubs/managers that i see fit to. This is the EPL thread afterall and just because the team i support isn't doing well does not mean i can't discuss other footballing matters! Now leave me alone please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !
PS Show me were i had a go at the Sunderland manager?
posting previous sunderland managers league record against current manager ... apologies if i assumed you were trying suggest new managers record not much better than manager they sacked !!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rafa B
and last 2 lines of my post i did discuss sunderlands current form ??? so is that not football matters which we are allowed to discuss and i am also allowed to talk about other football/clubs managers that i see fit to.as for leaving you alone !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sorry as a public forum i will continue to stalk you :D:D:D
If I remember correctly he went on a very similar run with Wigan last year. But once he stopped the rot they were mid-table IMO very reasonable for a team like Wigan who are a selling club.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rafa B
This year Bruce has had his team decimated by injuries to his back four and first choice midfield while Sbragia could call on his main players.
Comparing the 26 game Sbragia had with Bruce is seriously unfair because the fixtures have fallen differently.
But I suppose you didn't bother looking at these facts before posting yet another un-educated reply.
But to be fair to the poster 26 is a pretty big number of league games, you would generally expect to have played all of the teams in the league once (although there could be some issue with postponed games etc) and it should be fairly even in terms of the breakdown of home and away games.
I think the point he's trying to make is in effect "Is there a huge amount of difference between the results Bruce has got and the ones Sbragia got ?" Bruce started well but they are slipping a little now, they do need to watch out or they could be sucked into the relegation battle.
Your generally a good poster on this site. But seriously how can you defend his post.
Sbragia games in charge of sunderland Sat 6/12/08 to Sun 21/05/09
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/team/re...=eng.1&cc=5739
Bruce games in charge Sat 15/07/09 to .....
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/team/re...=eng.1&cc=5739
Sbragia's games
Dec:
Away L at Man Utd (single goal)
Home W vs WBA
Away W at Hull
Home D vs Blackburm
Away L at Everton
Jan:
Away D at Boro
Home L vs Villa
Home W vs Fulham
Feb:
AWay D at Newcstle
Home W vs Stoke
Away D vs Arsenal
March:
Away L at Liverpool
Home D vs Spurs
Home L vs Wigan
Away L at Man City
April:
Away L at West Hm
Home L vs Man Utd
Home W vs Hull
Away L at West Brom
May:
Home L vs Everton
Home D vs Bolton
Away L at Portsmth
Home L vs Chelsea
Brucie's record:
Aug:
Away W at Bolton
Home L vs Chelsea
Home W vs Blackburn
Away L at Stoke
Sept:
Home W vs Hull
Away L at Burnley
Home W vs Wolves
Oct:
Away D at Man Utd
Home W vs Liverpool
Away L at B'Ham
Home D vs West Ham
Nov:
Away L at Spurs
Home W vs Arsenal
Away L at Wigan
Dec:
Away L at Fulham
Home D to Pompey
Home L at Villa
Away L at Man City
Home D vs Everton
Away D at Blackburn
Jan:
Away L at Chelsea
Away L at Everton
Feb:
Home D vs Stoke
Home D vs Wigan
Away D vs Stoke
I accept that Bruce has done slightly better against the big 4 teams, but most of the other matches the results are not that different from Sbragia's. Both seem to start off reasonably well but then drifted into winless runs. Bruce is currently on a 12 game run without a win (which seems to include two games vs Portsmouth and two vs Wigan, which every team in the league should expect to get 6 points from the possible 12). Sbragia didn't win his last five, and if you take the Hull home win out (18th April) he had a 12 game winless run. Both suffered pretty heavy defeats - 5 goal margins at Chelsea for instance... I really dont see a huge amount of difference when you tally up all the results.
Didn't Sbragia resign though? I don't really see the point in comparing their results if Sunderland were willing to keep Sbragia on anyway. I do think Bruce is capable of taking them places, it's a really bad run their on but I'd imagine that's all it is, he's had tough spells over the years and has always come good.
How do they compare to Keanes record with sunderland.
Well depending on what you read Sbragia either didn't want the job in the first place, let alone a permanent job or wanted it until funds weren't made available to him that Jan (2009)...
Regarding Keane's tenure, it's difficult to form a valid comparison as some of his games were in the Championship rather than the Premier League:
Sunderland
28 August 2006 to 4 December 2008
100 games
42 wins
41 defeats
17 draws
42.00 % wins
Not to mention the nearly £70m spent on 33 players.Quote:
Originally Posted by cfdh_edmundo
13 games without a win now for Bruce and Sunderland. They will obviously stay up but next season will be huge for him and themselves. Spent a few bob himself and the natives are getting restless now. Amazing how there was no real issue with him being a Geordie initially but now there is but maybe it was just bubbling underneath the surface. I tell you Bruce is lucky the press like him!
yeah so far so good with press,,,, but how long will fans stay on his side badly needs a few wins quicklyQuote:
Originally Posted by Rafa B
Fulham at home is an ideal fixture to have at the wkd. They are usually pretty shocking on their travels.Quote:
Originally Posted by old git
drew 1-1 with shacktar which was a brilliant result for them so not so bad on the travels but will probably mean they will be very tired at the weekend
Great result, they also had a super away result in Basle when they needed it. They have not won away from home in the PL since the opening day of the season though and it was a similar story the previous few years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Acornvilla
looking forward to Man City-Chelsea tomorrow. Hopefully Bridge chins him and sparks a mass brawl!!!!
I have to say I'm getting a bit bored of the media saying this whole fiasco is affecting Terry's form. He has ALWAYS made mistakes in games. Carvalho mops up after him every week.
Here's a take (that I read elsewhere) on the Bridge 'honourable' decision to drop out of the England set up:Quote:
Originally Posted by shakermaker1982
1) Bridge’s honourable course of action has made it virtually impossible for both players to go to the World Cup
2) With Ashley Cole injured Bridge was a ‘boot’ in to the England starting eleven.
3) Capello has more options at centre-half and Terry’s form lately has been poor.
Capello knows he can’t bring both and his needs at left back are greater than at centre back. Is it possible that Bridge is actually hoping that Capello might drop Terry so that he can bring Bridge?
That would be some revenge by Bridge on Terry.
Never going to happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Soccer Mom
I agree and I don't think that Wayne Bridge is that clever but he has effectively put a gun to Capello's head without appearing to. If he feels that he needs Bridge (unlikely) then Terry has to be sacrificed. Mind you the way he is playing at the moment it wouldn't be that much of a loss to England.
It would be a sweet revenge though :)
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Originally Posted by shakermaker1982
it'll be interesting to see if they shake hands before the game when the two teams line up together . If bridge it thinking of slapping him then thats the perfect time ...
Wayne Bridge isn't even the 2nd best English left back anyway. Leighton Baines and Stephen Warnock are both better than him in my opinion, can't see Capello losing too much sleep over it tbh. CAshely will be back for the World Cup too me thinks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Soccer Mom
I think he's put a gun to his own chances of going to the world cup, and then pulled the trigger.Quote:
Originally Posted by Soccer Mom
He may have thought that his stance would result in a groundswell of public support for him (the supposed victim) and would lead to evil Terry being dropped instead, but that is never going to happen.
I'd imagine that Bridge's intentions were honourable. He knows that the media interest in the dispute would not help the team and he knows that Terry is going to be there regardless. As for England's need for a left back being greater than their need for a centre back I don't agree either. Like De Town pointed out, Cole may well be back in plenty time for the WC and Baines and Warnock are easily as good as Bridge in my opinion also. What are the centre back options- Woodgate, Ferdinand and Ledley King have serious fitness doubts. Who else? Brown and Lescott wouldn't inspire confidence on recent form. Dawson maybe...very decent season at Spurs. Am I missing anyone obvious?
I'd say that Bridge just can't stand to be in the same room as Terry, never mind playing on the same team as him, after what he did. In the greater scheme of things footy doesn't mean all that much, better to be feeling right in your own head. Good luck to him, seems decent enough in the way he's handled the whole sorry mess.
Aaron Ramsey got a nasty leg break this evening against Stoke .
Yeah a very nasty one:
http://cache4.asset-cache.net/xc/971...4FC1E22AE2E168
http://cache2.asset-cache.net/xc/971...5D0F04F9784868
Looks like Glenn Whelan was trying to make sure he kept still and didn't go into shock (blood loss).
Very disappointing for such a young, promising player. Shawcross' tackle was very poor in all fairness and it was a certain red card every day of the week