S�amus Coleman (D Everton b.1988)

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07/12/2009, 8:11 AM
an_ceannaire

As an Irish Evertonian, of course it gace me great satisfaction to see Seamy do so well today. And yes we can look to the future and dream of a new Dennis Irwin...But a note of caution......some lads on here are prone to the whole "he would start for anyone" stuff after a game or 2. This wasnt Seamys first game, he has had a few, and not been particularly great atall. But today was brilliant and please God a sign of things to come....fingerc crossed. But calm down lads, please....not seen this much hype around a young fella on here since....McShane.....;)
07/12/2009, 9:29 AM
twoenz

He was excellent as a right midfielder yesterday. Needs work on the defensive side of his game, but he's going to get a good few games this year at Everton, so he'll improve pretty well under Moyes. It was a great ball for the 2nd goal.
07/12/2009, 9:37 AM
dr_peepee

Cited as a Winner today in F365s Winners & Loosers column

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Seamus Coleman
It's not often that full-backs win the man-of-the-match award and even rarer for one to do so on his home debut after being introduced as a substitute. Coleman's performance was the personification of the fearlessness of youth, which was an oddity in itself because he looked absolutely petrified when he was on the touchline waiting to be introduced
07/12/2009, 9:50 AM
paul_oshea

I wonder does dessie farrell watch the soccer now....:)

Lads keep yer feet on the ground, i know the sligo contigent will have seen a lot of him. But remember mcshane....lets just hope that both he and gibson grasp their chances with both hands given the injuries at UTD and Everton. If 2 lads could emerge this year to add ot the midfield and the right back slot we could be a hell of a lot stronger in come the euros.
07/12/2009, 9:54 AM
Murfinator

To be fair Paul McShane is a 23 year old playing week in, week out in the premiership. I hate people acting like he's a prime example of a failure of a player. He's had a rough couple of seasons sure, but Richard Dunne was playing no better than him at his age so I'd still give him every chance of maturing into a more reliable player.

Good luck to Coleman too, just a shame he's playing at right back where we've already got 4 regularly playing premiership players in that position.
07/12/2009, 10:02 AM
paul_oshea

Ah ya but john oshea could switch to left back if we got a really good right back playing there.

Mcshane is only young, but in the cold light of day he still has made a few too many vital mistakes for us, most recently letting henry get in behind him for "that goal". IF oshea hadn't gone off injured henry would never have gotten in there.
07/12/2009, 10:03 AM
macdermesser

http://www.footytube.com/video/evert...ur-dec06-29107

Fast forward to 14:51 and the post match analysis is positive about Coleman. Coupled with Darron Gibson, Marc Wilson and Stephen Ward's performances .. this bodes well for the future.
07/12/2009, 10:04 AM
colster

Saw the MOTD highlights last night and he played very well. It's just occurred to me that he was very like Evra (or Stephen Carr at the start of his career) in style. It's a pity he's right footed. We could do with a left back of his quality.
Anyway very encouraging to see a young lad get a chance and grab it with both hands. He had a stormer.
07/12/2009, 10:26 AM
Predator

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Originally Posted by colster

Saw the MOTD highlights last night and he played very well. It's just occurred to me that he was very like Evra (or Stephen Carr at the start of his career) in style. It's a pity he's right footed. We could do with a left back of his quality.

Despite his game against Benfica at left back, I still think he's capable of playing left back. He might be right-footed, but he can use his left foot as was evidenced by a cracker of a cross he put in with it yesterday!
07/12/2009, 10:28 AM
colster

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Originally Posted by Predator

Despite his game against Benfica at left back, I still think he's capable of playing left back. He might be right-footed, but he can use his left foot as was evidenced by a cracker of a cross he put in with it yesterday!

That would be great. Can you imagine himself and Duff raiding down the left.
07/12/2009, 10:30 AM
HammerNThongs

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Originally Posted by twoenz

He was excellent as a right midfielder yesterday. Needs work on the defensive side of his game, but he's going to get a good few games this year at Everton, so he'll improve pretty well under Moyes. It was a great ball for the 2nd goal.

He was right back. Stephen Pienaar was Evertons right winger.
07/12/2009, 11:52 AM
paul_oshea

Why did moyes not let him receive the man of the match award the dick? He is not a teenager in fairness and it might have given him a bit of confidence.
07/12/2009, 12:05 PM
Predator

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Originally Posted by paul_oshea

Why did moyes not let him receive the man of the match award the dick? He is not a teenager in fairness and it might have given him a bit of confidence.

What's this now? What did Moyes do? That seems like a strange thing to do!
07/12/2009, 12:06 PM
geysir

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Originally Posted by paul_oshea

Why did moyes not let him receive the man of the match award the dick? He is not a teenager in fairness and it might have given him a bit of confidence.

Moyes in all probability did the right thing.
Maybe the kid was not inclined to be interviewed.
07/12/2009, 12:09 PM
centre mid

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Originally Posted by paul_oshea

Why did moyes not let him receive the man of the match award the dick? He is not a teenager in fairness and it might have given him a bit of confidence.

Maybe SKY wanted the Captain who scored the equaliser and the keeper who saved a last min penalty.
07/12/2009, 12:16 PM
paul_oshea

No moyes has a policy of keeping hte young ones away from the media, which is what geysir is referring to, he did the same with rooney and doing it now with gosling and rodwell. Perhaps moyes knows best and its too early for him to be seeing this stuff and moyes is easing him in, i may have over-reacted.
07/12/2009, 12:28 PM
Colbert Report

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Originally Posted by paul_oshea

Ah ya but john oshea could switch to left back if we got a really good right back playing there.

Mcshane is only young, but in the cold light of day he still has made a few too many vital mistakes for us, most recently letting henry get in behind him for "that goal". IF oshea hadn't gone off injured henry would never have gotten in there.

John O'Shea is not a left back! For the last time people!
07/12/2009, 2:07 PM
SkStu

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Originally Posted by paul_oshea

No moyes has a policy of keeping hte young ones away from the media, which is what geysir is referring to, he did the same with rooney and doing it now with gosling and rodwell. Perhaps moyes knows best and its too early for him to be seeing this stuff and moyes is easing him in, i may have over-reacted.

thats exactly what it is Paul.

by the way, I think its clear that Coleman will be able to cut the mustard over the long haul.

eh? eh? geddit? ;)
07/12/2009, 5:42 PM
CF1989

glad to see ye've all woken up and realised what a player he is
07/12/2009, 6:17 PM
The Legend

i havent seen this level of excitement since high flying eddie mcgoldrick!
07/12/2009, 6:43 PM
Fergie's Son

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Originally Posted by The Legend

i havent seen this level of excitement since high flying eddie mcgoldrick!

Who actually wasn't a bad player for Ireland. He played very well away to Denmark.

A nice start for Coleman. Let's hope he can keep his place.
07/12/2009, 9:04 PM
Drumcondra 69er

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Originally Posted by Fergie's Son

Who actually wasn't a bad player for Ireland. He played very well away to Denmark.

A nice start for Coleman. Let's hope he can keep his place.

Had a very decent game against the North in 93 and all, did he win Irwin's free that was cleared for McLoughlin's goal?
07/12/2009, 9:41 PM
Stuttgart88

He also played really well in the 25 miniute "win" over England. A tackle he made in the early minutes set the tone for us. Ok, there's revisionist history and revisionist history, but I think it's true...:)
07/12/2009, 9:43 PM
Stuttgart88

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Originally Posted by CF1989

glad to see ye've all woken up and realised what a player he is

Or maybe those of us who don't live in Sligo (or even Ireland) haven't been asleep, just open minded...
08/12/2009, 8:52 AM
dr_peepee

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Originally Posted by Fergie's Son

Who actually wasn't a bad player for Ireland. He played very well away to Denmark.

A nice start for Coleman. Let's hope he can keep his place.

I remember he tore Irwin to shreds in a club game against united too.. It's gas to think the players you treated with such indifference back in the day isn't it??
08/12/2009, 9:08 AM
paul_oshea

You know I love this a lad who was playing junior soccer 3 years ago and was a great gaelic player who was going to be called up to the donegal senior panel before silgo rovers jumped in and signed him, he must be pinching himself now. Speaking to a load of killybegs lads last night he was the talk of the London County Board meeting. All very proud of their own and rightly so.

Great story lets hope it stays that way and he doesn't fade into obscurity.
08/12/2009, 10:48 AM
EAFC_rdfl

aye it is great, he's doing the county proud! First man to play for Ireland from 'below the gap' (a donegal term)??
08/12/2009, 10:50 AM
paul_oshea

Thats a big auld gap in fairness EAFC ;)
08/12/2009, 10:28 PM
Donegalcelt

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Originally Posted by paul_oshea

You know I love this a lad who was playing junior soccer 3 years ago and was a great gaelic player who was going to be called up to the donegal senior panel before silgo rovers jumped in and signed him, he must be pinching himself now. Speaking to a load of killybegs lads last night he was the talk of the London County Board meeting. All very proud of their own and rightly so.

Great story lets hope it stays that way and he doesn't fade into obscurity.

All spot on bar it was the minor panel. He was only 17 when he signed for Sligo and would've played centre-back for the minors that year. He was though playing senior club gaelic football with Killybegs.

Donegal, who were very strong with the likes of Michael Murphy on the side, went on to win the Ulster Minor League and Ulster Championship in 06, before losing to a Kerry team with Tommy Walsh in the All-Ireland semi-final. Fair play to the lad, he's going really well and everyone is delighted for him.
09/12/2009, 9:04 AM
Royal rover

i'm flying back to ireland via liverpool/knock on xmas eve - i'm going to get a couple of everton shirts with coleman for my cousins in sligo - as it stands will rovers get anymore money based on future first team appearances and international caps
09/12/2009, 9:13 AM
an_ceannaire

Mother of God will ye all calm down!!! :eek:
Youd sware he was playing week in week out putting in Gary Kelly type performances! He's not. As i said earlier, this reminds me of nothing but McShane.....ye all thought he was gonna be "world class" and look what happened!! Just calm it for Gods sakes! We give out that the English press over hype their players.....have a read of this thread!!! On the back of one game! He has played 3 previous and been nothing but poor!!!
Now we all hope Shamie proves himself as a big player and as an Everton fan no one hopes it more than me, but for the love of GOD, Give the hyperbole a rest will ye!!! He is Seamus Coleman, young player, decent potential, as yet unproven. He is not Cafu!! Not yet anyways. This is exactly the kind of OTT Rubbish Moysey is trying to protect him from!

CALM DOWN!!
09/12/2009, 9:22 AM
gustavo

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Originally Posted by an_ceannaire

Mother of God will ye all calm down!!! :eek:
Youd sware he was playing week in week out putting in Gary Kelly type performances! He's not. As i said earlier, this reminds me of nothing but McShane.....ye all thought he was gonna be "world class" and look what happened!! Just calm it for Gods sakes! We give out that the English press over hype their players.....have a read of this thread!!! On the back of one game! He has played 3 previous and been nothing but poor!!!Now we all hope Shamie proves himself as a big player and as an Everton fan no one hopes it more than me, but for the love of GOD, Give the hyperbole a rest will ye!!! He is Seamus Coleman, young player, decent potential, as yet unproven. He is not Cafu!! Not yet anyways. This is exactly the kind of OTT Rubbish Moysey is trying to protect him from!

CALM DOWN!!

That's wrong anyway

He wasn't great against Benfica but then again he was playing on his debut out of position against a Brazilian squad member and the rest of the defence was a shambles

He bared played 5 minutes against Bolton

And he played very well against AEK Athens

People have been raving about him for a couple of years now
09/12/2009, 10:17 AM
magnumpi

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Originally Posted by an_ceannaire

Mother of God will ye all calm down!!! :eek:
Youd sware he was playing week in week out putting in Gary Kelly type performances! He's not. As i said earlier, this reminds me of nothing but McShane.....ye all thought he was gonna be "world class" and look what happened!! Just calm it for Gods sakes! We give out that the English press over hype their players.....have a read of this thread!!! On the back of one game! He has played 3 previous and been nothing but poor!!!
Now we all hope Shamie proves himself as a big player and as an Everton fan no one hopes it more than me, but for the love of GOD, Give the hyperbole a rest will ye!!! He is Seamus Coleman, young player, decent potential, as yet unproven. He is not Cafu!! Not yet anyways. This is exactly the kind of OTT Rubbish Moysey is trying to protect him from!

CALM DOWN!!

finally, some sense.
09/12/2009, 10:22 AM
paul_oshea

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Originally Posted by Donegalcelt

All spot on bar it was the minor panel. He was only 17 when he signed for Sligo and would've played centre-back for the minors that year. He was though playing senior club gaelic football with Killybegs.

Donegal, who were very strong with the likes of Michael Murphy on the side, went on to win the Ulster Minor League and Ulster Championship in 06, before losing to a Kerry team with Tommy Walsh in the All-Ireland semi-final. Fair play to the lad, he's going really well and everyone is delighted for him.

Im aware of that michael murphy fella as well, a lad who went to college with him told me he was the best gaelic player he ever played with or against.

Ive been told from a lad whose father used to be secretary for killybegs that he was going to brought into the senior panel winter 06 i.e. after the all ireland final of that year which the rossies one, and handled tommy walsh quite easy ;)
09/12/2009, 10:24 AM
paul_oshea

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Originally Posted by an_ceannaire

Mother of God will ye all calm down!!! :eek:
Youd sware he was playing week in week out putting in Gary Kelly type performances! He's not. As i said earlier, this reminds me of nothing but McShane.....ye all thought he was gonna be "world class" and look what happened!! Just calm it for Gods sakes! We give out that the English press over hype their players.....have a read of this thread!!! On the back of one game! He has played 3 previous and been nothing but poor!!!
Now we all hope Shamie proves himself as a big player and as an Everton fan no one hopes it more than me, but for the love of GOD, Give the hyperbole a rest will ye!!! He is Seamus Coleman, young player, decent potential, as yet unproven. He is not Cafu!! Not yet anyways. This is exactly the kind of OTT Rubbish Moysey is trying to protect him from!

CALM DOWN!!

we'll start listening when you start spelling words and names right.
09/12/2009, 10:42 AM
twoenz

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Originally Posted by HammerNThongs

He was right back. Stephen Pienaar was Evertons right winger.

I realise that. I'm just pointing out that the best facets of his game on Sunday was his attacking play, not his defensive side.
09/12/2009, 10:44 AM
twoenz

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Originally Posted by The Legend

i havent seen this level of excitement since high flying eddie mcgoldrick!

Last Irish man to play in a League match for Arsenal too I think.
09/12/2009, 10:53 AM
an_ceannaire

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Originally Posted by paul_oshea

we'll start listening when you start spelling words and names right.

Pedant Alert
Pedant Alert :rolleyes:

(and who is we Paul.....are you the elected spokesman for the group?)
09/12/2009, 11:10 AM
paul_oshea

No, but when you call him Shamie, you could at least get that right.
09/12/2009, 11:25 AM
an_ceannaire

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Originally Posted by paul_oshea

No, but when you call him Shamie, you could at least get that right.

Sorry for not knowing what way culchies up your way spell Seamie/shamie/sheamy..........:rolleyes:

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