I was watching it as well, did Janmaat step in front of Elliot before he punched the ball, so he didn't get a great contact on it?
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I was watching it as well, did Janmaat step in front of Elliot before he punched the ball, so he didn't get a great contact on it?
Just had another look at it - Janmaat was in front of Elliot, but didn't really step in front of him, he was just following the flight of the ball and, if anything, Elliot moved out behind him. There was a gap between them so Elliot certainly wasn't muscled out or even significantly unsighted, which is why I would like to see him become more comfortable dealing with crosses. That said, his shot-stopping was first class, with a nice variety of saves - covering his near-post; not going down too early in a one-on-one and using his legs; getting down quickly to get a strong hand on a daisy-cutter; a reflex stop of a near point-blank bouncing header.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Compared to other positions, does it really matter what level our goalkeepers are playing at in terms of who we should start, within reason obviously? I think Westwood is comfortably a better goalkeeper than Elliot from what I have seen. Elliot doesn't do much wrong, but Westwood saves things that a lot of goalkeepers don't. That's why I always rated him higher than Forde as well and what separates the top goalkeepers from the reliable goalkeepers. Randolph got a bit of a free ride for B&H's goal against us, I only saw Danny Invincible mention it, he was pretty poor for it I think and wasn't great for the Poland opener either.
I think Randolph was utterly blameless for B&H's goal, jury out for Poland's opener (personally I think partly culpable - others have said deflected). A great save at a key point in each game too remember. His save in Zenica at 0-0 half way through second half was excellent, after Hendrick was caught in possession on our 18 yard line I think.
I think too much is made of the importance of starting or not. Look at Long last night, sharper and hungrier than ever. Whoever starts in goals in June will have benefit of training and a couple of warm-up games. As an ex keeper I'd opine that sometimes not starting can be good - a bit like not having played golf for a bit. Bad form or self-doubt can be carried into the next game whereas a break is a chance to be positive.
Anyway I'll be seeing Elliott live on 2nd January at Arsenal. If there's any talk of Arsenal being title favourites before the game he's sure to have nothing to do!
I think be might have been covering his near post to an unnecessary degree, Dzeko was able to just put it into the centre of the goals from about the penalty spot I think. Maybe I'm being harsh though, it was an unusual kind of goal.Quote:
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Misses the game through illness.
He made the bench. His replacement has had an "exceptional" first half according to Jeff.
Edit- messed up for what looks like a West Brom winner.
Jeff didn't watch the game so.Quote:
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Darlow was a disaster from first to last whistle.
Maybe he meant exceptionally bad :p
Got 5/10 in today's Independent (UK). That's pretty poor.
That was unbelievably generous, he was a mess the poor guy.
Heard Jeff Stelling on Sky Sports saying early on that "Newcastle keep on unearthing goalkeepers" - so maybe he started off well and went down from there?
Edit - highlights here. Two good saves, but the commentators are referencing him throughout; sounds like there was a few general handling errors there (as well as the goal obviously)
MOTD showed a nice bit more than that. There were handling errors, sliced kicks from back passes and some general panic stations that weren't shown there. You'd have to feel for him.
He had nothing to do. Hardly involved at all apart from a few kick outs and a couple of routine saves. Seemed maybe to have had a misunderstanding with a defender for the only goal but the defender should have just taken command and not let it bounce. Koscielny wanted it so got it.Quote:
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Cech was much busier and saved Arsenal on a couple of key occasions in the game.
Having a stormer at Goodison as Newcastle trail 1-0. Made a world class save from Barkley a few minutes ago.
Anyone got a clip of Barkleys late penalty against him ?
Ended 3-0. Two Barkley penalties late on after two ridiculous fouls. Barkley sent Elliot the wrong way for the first and dinked the second down the middle. Lennon's opener was unusual, a soft enough shot from the edge of the box but he kind of reversed it into the opposite corner you'd expect him to go for. It was clever from Lennon as it seemed to totally wrong foot Elliot but I'm not sure if he should have done better.
Would Newcastle getting relegated be good for Elliot? Surely Krul would move on? Hope it happens anyway, firstly it would mean Norwich would probably survive and, secondly, it'd be funny after all the fairly mental money they've spent.
Here.Quote:
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https://streamable.com/6kirQuote:
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Just watched the highlights of the Everton v Newcastle game. Couple of absolutely world class saves from Elliot. He's in incredible form and certainly the form goalkeeper in terms of Irish players the minute. I hope he's not overlooked by O'Neill. It'll be a close call between him and Randolph for the Euros.
Just saw the goal he conceded against Stoke during the week, surprised it hasn't been mentioned. Awful stuff, Shaqiri shot from distance and Elliot just watched it fly into the middle of the net as if it was going wide.
Be ridiculous to drop Randolph when he has done nothing wrong. He will get enough football before the Euros between the cup and the friendlies.
Elliot as #2 with the confidence he can step in at short notice like he did for Newcastle.
Westwood should be #3.
No need to overcomplicate things, though I'm sure Given will be brought along for experience/destabilisation.
Out for six months according to Sky Sports
Nasty, poor guy. Thank God we're in a better position than Newcastle all the same, once Shay disposes of his voodoo doll.
Sky Sports
Disaster, gutted for him.
Five years ago I'd never believe I would hope for a Shay Given injury, yet here we are.
Are we going a little overboard about Given though? He played okay when he came back into the side before his injury, not brilliant but hardly disastrous. Randolph had a couple of really bad moments last night it has to be said, kicking the ball straight to the Slovak striker who miscontrolled it, fortunately for us, and threw another ball straight out of play for a throw-in. I'd imagine poor Shay would have been slated on here had it been him.
I don't want Given as our number one either, but I definitely wouldn't go as far as to actually want him to get injured again, even though I know that's not meant in a malicious way by SvD or anybody else. If he plays a few games at club level and is looking sharp then I think O'Neill can take it from there, fitness alone definitely shouldn't be enough to dislodge Randolph at this stage, but he could be okay as back up. I'd just like to see Westwood dislodge Forde for the other spot really and remain part of the picture for the WC campaign.
On Football Focus right now.
Player of the Season at Newcastle: https://twitter.com/the_dilsh/status/731917787946455040
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It's an honour to win player of the season for #NUFC can't wait to get back and help get us back where we belong!thanks for all the support
The most cheese in a bacon factory. And you can quote me on thatQuote:
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New four year deal for Elliot at Newcastle: http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20160...281670_5869071
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The Republic of Ireland international was the Club's player of the season last term and is nearing full fitness following the knee injury which kept him out of the final few games of the 2015/16 campaign.
Making his comeback on Monday night for Newcastle U23's: https://twitter.com/NUFC/status/807273816841977857
Their current keeper, Karl Darlow, doesn't seem to be a major sensation so IF Elliot gets back to his best form, there is every chance he could be competing again for the No. 1 jersey.
Played 90 minutes for the U23 side against Aston Villa, Newcastle won 4-2 - https://www.nufc.co.uk/matches/under...-v-aston-villa
Jake Doyle-Hayes started for Villa, and James Finnerty was an unused sub
On the bench this afternoon.
Mitrovic replaces Murphy.
Robert Elliot returned for Newcastle and played well .
Best of luck to him and I hope he is back in the Irish squad again soon .
We can do with the competition .
I believe that he was playing on merit last night having impressed in training.
He was playing very well before the Injury . Hopefully he still wants to play for us . He did get that injury playing for us if I remember correctly.....
I don't see why he wouldn't still want to play for us. He always seemed keen and even cancelled his stag-do in Las Vegas and postponed his honeymoon to travel to the US for our end-of-season friendly tour in 2014: http://thestar.ie/about-us/oneill-la...-his-own-stag/
Martin seemed impressed by his show of commitment at the time:Quote:
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Fair play to him, I heard they were to be going karting on the stag do too.
That's the end of the karting jokes.