Is Ronaldo the best in the world?

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07/04/2008, 2:08 PM
Wangball

There's only one way to reslove who the better player is between Zidane & Ronaldo....a keep up contest

Zidane was a great player, as was Pele, as was Maradonna, as was Paul McStay (had to put that in there) but Ronaldo is a great player right now & is argubly the best footballer in the world right now...whatever about Messi & Kaka, Zidane isn't even relevant to this argument
07/04/2008, 3:36 PM
Roadend

As there seems to be Zidane and Ronaldo comparisons I'll just ask, would Ronaldo be the same player if he hadn't the pace he has. Zidane didn't have pace and usually beat his man with his football abilities. Just a thought.
07/04/2008, 4:43 PM
feo123

i think if ronaldinho or henry scored 37 goals this season ye would all say there the best in the world
07/04/2008, 5:02 PM
cartman

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Originally Posted by feo123

i think if ronaldinho or henry scored 37 goals this season ye would all say there the best in the world

and yet when someone mentioned huntelaar scoring 30 odd goals - hes not the best in the world...just cos u score loadsa goals doesn't make you the best player in the world - i personally wouldnt even put ronaldo in the top 10 players in the premiership, let alone the world...
and we will all see why, in the next few weeks against arsenal, chelsea and in the champs league semis when he goes hiding as usual..
07/04/2008, 5:10 PM
DmanDmythDledge

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Originally Posted by Roadend

As there seems to be Zidane and Ronaldo comparisons I'll just ask, would Ronaldo be the same player if he hadn't the pace he has. Zidane didn't have pace and usually beat his man with his football abilities. Just a thought.

You can't make that comparison between the two because of the different positions they play.
07/04/2008, 5:44 PM
celticV3

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Originally Posted by cartman

and yet when someone mentioned huntelaar scoring 30 odd goals - hes not the best in the world...just cos u score loadsa goals doesn't make you the best player in the world

i did not say huntalaar was the best only because of his goal scoring look at my post, he has set up countless goals, when the team go behind he is the player that picks up the team and lifts them until they get the win. for example holland playing their friendly two weeks ago were 3 goals down huntalaar scored twice and they won 4-3. he adds so much to a team and for his age is a great leader an inspiration to the team
08/04/2008, 7:30 AM
Pike B

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Originally Posted by Roadend

As there seems to be Zidane and Ronaldo comparisons I'll just ask, would Ronaldo be the same player if he hadn't the pace he has. Zidane didn't have pace and usually beat his man with his football abilities. Just a thought.

And a good point at that.. Well said...
08/04/2008, 7:30 AM
Pike B

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Originally Posted by Wangball

There's only one way to reslove who the better player is between Zidane & Ronaldo....a keep up contest

Zidane was a great player, as was Pele, as was Maradonna, as was Paul McStay (had to put that in there) but Ronaldo is a great player right now & is argubly the best footballer in the world right now...whatever about Messi & Kaka, Zidane isn't even relevant to this argument

Very true. Zidane has left this thread...
09/04/2008, 11:40 AM
old git

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Originally Posted by Roadend

As there seems to be Zidane and Ronaldo comparisons I'll just ask, would Ronaldo be the same player if he hadn't the pace he has. Zidane didn't have pace and usually beat his man with his football abilities. Just a thought.

so you are saying ronaldo has no footballing abilities other than his pace ... would have to disagree on that ronaldo is also better in the air than zidane was ... only time will prove if ronaldo can keep improving over the years :ball:
09/04/2008, 11:43 AM
old git

[QUOTE=old git;916769]so you are saying ronaldo has no footballing abilities other than his pace ... would have to disagree on that ronaldo is also better in the air than zidane was ... only time will prove if ronaldo can keep improving .. i personally though zidane was very overatted at times and at the moment ronaldo is also overated a good player in a good/ great team playing in a hyped up so called greatest league in the world .. : :ball
09/04/2008, 11:55 AM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by old git

so you are saying ronaldo has no footballing abilities other than his pace ... would have to disagree on that ronaldo is also better in the air than zidane was ... only time will prove if ronaldo can keep improving over the years :ball:

Messi's 4 yeas younger and already better IMO

And Zidane was brilliant in the air too. Scored more headers in world cup finals thatn anyone

Probably
09/04/2008, 12:01 PM
shanman2

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Messi's 4 yeas younger and already better IMO

And Zidane was brilliant in the air too. Scored more headers in world cup finals thatn anyone

Probably

That's a good shout Dodge. Seem to remember a certain cup final a few years ago where he score one. Zidane, as much as I hate him, was one of the best players of his generation along with Roy Keane.
The really strange thing is and I know its off topic, Zizu and Dugarry nearly signed for Blackburn that time often makes me wonder?:confused:
09/04/2008, 12:07 PM
jebus

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Originally Posted by shanman2

That's a good shout Dodge. Seem to remember a certain cup final a few years ago where he score one. Zidane, as much as I hate him, was one of the best players of his generation along with Roy Keane.
The really strange thing is and I know its off topic, Zizu and Dugarry nearly signed for Blackburn that time often makes me wonder?:confused:

Roy Keane had a handshake agreement with Kenny Dalglish to join Blackburn as well, so their team could have had a midfield partnership of Keane and Zidane, with Dugarry and Shearer up front
09/04/2008, 12:33 PM
shanman2

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Originally Posted by jebus

Roy Keane had a handshake agreement with Kenny Dalglish to join Blackburn as well, so their team could have had a midfield partnership of Keane and Zidane, with Dugarry and Shearer up front

Ya I remember that. Christ they would have dominated for years if they had to have gotten them. Wasn't it Hodgson who tried to sign the two lads?
09/04/2008, 1:18 PM
Norm

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Originally Posted by Pike B

What are you possibly basing that on man? Zidane's control, and first touch, were incredible, the best I ever saw, not to mention the fact that he NEVER lost the ball!! (Watch any game, he was almost never dispossesed) he scored penalties, free kicks , headers, left and right foot finishes, won the World Cup, Euro Championships, Champions league, three World Player of the year awards, The Ballon D' Or, the Italian and Spanish League titles and is one of only three players (Pele being another,) to score in two World Cup Finals. He scored the greatest ever goal in a Champions League final and was beyond anything I've ever seen in my life as a player. I am 26. Pele and Maradona have both called him the greatest player of his generation, and he is a GOD in France. The truly great players do it on the biggest possible stage. What did Henry and Ronaldinho do in the Champions league final a few years ago?? Nothing.. When France and his clubs needed him, Zizou delivered. The mark of a true great. The World cup thing with Materazzi was a minor blot on an amazing career. Football is worse for his being gone..
Ronaldo has mount everest of achievement in front of him to be anywhere near Zizou. And I won't hear anyone tell me otherwise.

I'll second that.
09/04/2008, 2:21 PM
Roadend

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Originally Posted by old git

so you are saying ronaldo has no footballing abilities other than his pace ... would have to disagree on that ronaldo is also better in the air than zidane was ... only time will prove if ronaldo can keep improving over the years :ball:

No, but I'm just throwing it out there as to whether he would be as good if he didn't have the lightning pace he does. Oh and Zidane overated? You'r having a laugh right?
09/04/2008, 2:26 PM
Denis The Red

Lads, did anyone tell you that Zidane is no longer playing. Neither is Maradona, Eusebio, Tomas Hassler, and I heard Pele packed it in recently to promote some product to help some vital part of the anatomy. So the question was is Ronaldo the best at the moment?
Why is he being compared to Zidane and the likes?
And I do think he is better than Messi.....at the moment, this season, currently.
09/04/2008, 2:32 PM
Pike B

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Originally Posted by Norm

I'll second that.

Wise man... Very wise. You have my respect..
09/04/2008, 2:34 PM
Pike B

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Originally Posted by Denis The Red

Lads, did anyone tell you that Zidane is no longer playing. Neither is Maradona, Eusebio, Tomas Hassler, and I heard Pele packed it in recently to promote some product to help some vital part of the anatomy. So the question was is Ronaldo the best at the moment?
Why is he being compared to Zidane and the likes?
And I do think he is better than Messi.....at the moment, this season, currently.

Ooooooohh excuse us!! Ya at the moment he is...There I said it..You happy?? ;)
09/04/2008, 9:44 PM
jmurphyc

Messi and Kaka have so far both shown more natural ability IMO. Ronaldo has probably been the best in the world this season but he doesn't have the ability to really control a game like Kaka has in the past (admittedly Pirlo helped Kaka a lot in this respect).

Zidane is unimportant in the debate as to whether Ronaldo is the best in the world at the moment but no matter how many stats and games you talk about it's impossible to say whether someone is overrated or underrated or not.

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