My mate was at Watford v Coventry last night. He said Chris Woods, now Everton goalkeeping coach (?), was taking notes on Westwood throughout the game.
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My mate was at Watford v Coventry last night. He said Chris Woods, now Everton goalkeeping coach (?), was taking notes on Westwood throughout the game.
I still think Folan offers something different in that he's more effective in the air, and better at hold-up play.Quote:
Originally Posted by youngirish
There's no question in my mind that Best will score more goals, but against certain teams, having an aerial outlet like Folan has its uses.
I also think Folan has a bit more class than he's given credit for. He's got a pretty good first touch, and is good at directing flick ons with accuracy.
In terms of what all this means, I feel that Folan, if partnered with Robbie, would get the best out of him, whereas if Best and Keane played together, they'd probably play as independent strikers and not link up too well.
I realize a certain amount of this is speculation, but these are my thoughts. Excited to see Best doing so well though.
Call me old-fashioned if you like but I prefer strikers who tend to score goals, from what I've seen of Folan he's not going to be a prolific goal gett;)er.
We all like strikers who can score goals, but sometimes the work of what I would call "complementary" strikers make the team overall better, even if they aren't the ones who put the ball in the back of the net.Quote:
Originally Posted by Docboy
To put this another way, would you prefer a striker who scored 5, but got no assists, or a striker who got 0 goals and 10 assists?
I'd take the latter every time. Goals are one key ingredient for a striker, but you've got to look at the total package that an individual brings to the table.
Yeah I definitely agree with irishfan there. Remember the potent Quinn/Phillips partnership. I'm sure there were plenty of better goal scorers around than Quinn at that stage but how many would have complimented Phillips as well?
In the case of Best and Folan, Best may well turn out to be a better player for Ireland. However, at the moment Folan is the one out of the two that offers something different, from what I've seen of both, which hasn't been much.
For the record, I believe Best will have a better club career and score more goals than Folan for Ireland, but they're different players with different skill sets and attributes.
I agree with the sentiments expressed here about Best though, he is looking a scary player.
I don't rate Folan. Very one dimensional, and at best he's only average to good at that one dimension. He tried to be a more rounded player lately but it doesn't come off for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by irishfan86
I think people are underestimating Best's presence in the air and his ability to bully defenders.
I thought Folan was excellent in Bari, and started OK in Bulgaria. Poor against SA.
What did I tell you all 5 years ago....
An interesting fact also: In last nights game. Will Hoskins scored for Watford and Leon Best scored for Coventry. They both went to the same school at the same time; I can't imagine that has happened too often!
He can bully defenders by harrying them and he's too strong to push off the ball, but in the air he's not nearly as effective as Folan (from what I've seen).Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Admittedly, I haven't seen a tonne of either player, so I may be wrong on this, but this is what I've picked up from the games I have seen.
did a few of the weast ham lads not live on the same road growing up?
we have suffered badly since quinn retired. he never scored a huge amt of goals but always brought the best out of those around him due to his size . Ireland v germany wc 02 being prime exampleQuote:
Originally Posted by Docboy
despite being our second top scorer in international football?Quote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
21 goals over 92 internationals is not a big return. always helped others to score thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
:D Hah I've been waiting on that one!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by livehead1
He got some right important ones in fairness-Quote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
Palermo equaliser v Holland
Wembley equaliser v England
Lansdowne equaliser v Denmark
Maybe more, can't rememer. I'd say the highest quality opposition and most important goal Aldridge scored was against Mexico. Never really scored against any really big teams that I can remember despite the ones against Malta being important. Man I'm gone way off topic, that Best looks a good player:o
Not sure where I read it but I remember reading an interview with Chris Coleman talking about how the penny seems to have dropped with Best. He alluded to Best's inclusion in recent Ireland squad's as the reason behind his recent progression and suggested that it's a real motivation for him.
i wasnt having a pop at quinn. complete opposite actually. my original post was just pointing out that we have bissed having a big man since he retiredQuote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
I didn't for a second think you were. I totally took it that you were praising him actually. I probably used the words "in fairness" for no good reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
remember the goal Aldo tried to claim against portugal at home in our 1-0 win in the Euro 96 campaign i think. Was an own goal by their goalkeeper Baia (?), Aldo didnt even touch it!!Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean