The selection team

i think it's clear that the consultant role here is not being implemented just to find the best candidate for the job, but to absolve the board of the fai from responsibility if it goes wrong. delaney is an excellent politician above all else and he was badly bitten on the stan saga and this brainchild is his way of:

a) showing he is 'progressive' and willing to accept mistakes, learn from them and move on
and b) absolving himself of any responsibility if things go wrong.

if we actually find a decent manager, it is a big bonus as far as he is concerned, but if history has taught us one thing with regard to the fai, it's that is by and large a facesaving measure, where the stated objective and the unspoken objective don't really coincide.

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Originally Posted by NeilMcD

Bobby Robson
Jim Beglin (why?)
Liam Brady
Phil Gartside (or David Dein) (Is this because he is in the news lately for picking Gary Megson and before that Sammy Lee)
Roy Keane(he cant buy a decent amount of players never mind a good manager

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Beglin is a fool, cant believe his name is seriously mentioned here, then again so is Robsons name
My god even the selection committee is tough to call. Might need a pre-selection commitee to pick the selection commitee

Dein and Roxburgh are good choices, but please god tell me the FAI havent went with David Davies

Gartside is Irish, and also picked Big Sam from the 4th flight

Beglin is there as a journo, and like it or not the media are important in this process

And Robson because we are already paying him

I assume there is still no word on this selection team? The vacuum is leaving it open for the pundits and journalists to take centre stage.

In light of Delaney ringing Paul Jewell last night, and Jewell turning it down, does this now mean that there is no selection committee and Delaney is in charge of the process? Does anyone have any insight?

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Originally Posted by eekers

In light of Delaney ringing Paul Jewell last night, and Jewell turning it down, does this now mean that there is no selection committee and Delaney is in charge of the process? Does anyone have any insight?

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I'd be more concerned if speaking with Delaney was the reason he turned it down, i.e. he was interested, spoke with Delaney, and now he's not so interested.

he spoke to giles before delaney last night.
and he informed giles he was no longer interested.
and then delaney got involved to confirm it.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...900405,00.html

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"I rang Johnny yesterday (Thursday) to say 'after serious consideration, I'm really flattered, I've decided not to be considered'.

"Then the FAI chief executive called me last night to ask me if I would re-consider. But I'm beginning to miss the day-to-day involvement with the players on the training ground, that's what I'm looking for now.

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Fair enough, at least that's clarified.

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Originally Posted by eekers

he spoke to giles before delaney last night.
and he informed giles he was no longer interested.
and then delaney got involved to confirm it.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...900405,00.html

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Good stuff eekers. Your stuff is spot on.

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Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar

Good stuff eekers. Your stuff is spot on.

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not really, personally i want to see these two in charge

When Matt Cooper mentioned on Friday afternoon's 'Last Word' that John "Im not getting involved with the prospective management candidates" Delaney had gotten involved with a prospective management candidate by, well, talking directly to him on the phone, I thought Cooper was taking the pee.
Going by their reaction, I think Cascarino and Lawrenson did too....

(Apparently an outstanding deluge of anti-Venables sentiment was sent in by listeners too, which was mentioned several times during the broadcast, which is better than the usual "Venables : our number 1 choice" guff that other media outlets are faffing about with)

If my understanding is correct, today's Sunday Tribune has reported that Sir Bobby Robson has apparently been retained by the FAI as one part of the tripartite headhunting committee. Robson has consulted various figures in the English game regarding the appointment of the next Irish manager, Sir Alex Ferguson being one of those (Ferguson is reported as having said that "a certain Gerard H" seems to be a popular topic of conversation in FAI chatter).

So, my query is this: do we know who any of the 3-man committee are yet (if anyone can confirm that Robson is one-third of it?)

Stephen Staunton maybe?

Robson: So Stan, what do you think of Tony Venables for manager?
Stan: Well, you tell me.

Staunton for England.

Heard Andy Townsend is being appraoched. Big Ron it is then with Andy doing the Ally McCoist thing if his recommendations are heeded.

This whole head-hunting the head-hunters in bullsh*t IMO. The FAI are asking everyone in an off-the-record type of way because they're obviously paranoid of making a pure heims of the appointment again. People won't stand for it and the "Delaney Out" campaign, if it comes to that, will be too much for them to survive after the Stan debacle.

No-one, including them, wants to carry the can for another ****-up so basically they're asking anyone who'll listen to them and will only make it public if the media catch them out on it. Townsend will be in the headlines this week.

Bobby Robson, Don Howe and David Pleat are pretty much confirmed as the selection committee.
Good names but are they in any way in tune with feeling in Ireland with regard who the fans might want.
At least they dont have to read the muck in the media here though.

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Originally Posted by eekers

Bobby Robson, Don Howe and David Pleat are pretty much confirmed as the selection committee.
Good names but are they in any way in tune with feeling in Ireland with regard who the fans might want.
At least they dont have to read the muck in the media here though.

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my fears about these 3 amigos? Don Howe has worked with El Tel (1 of England's coaches during their unsuccessful 96 campaign) and David Pleat is a Spurs man through and through who must love Venables because he's the only one who has won them anything of significance in the 25 years....I'm excluding the League Cup win under Graham. We don't have one Irish voice on that panel. When their selection goes tits up in 2 years time what will they care? It's just another x amount of sterling in their retirement fund. They should just appoint El Tel's wife and ask her to pick a manager.

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Originally Posted by shakermaker1982

David Pleat is a Spurs man through and through who must love Venables because he's the only one who has won them anything of significance in the 25 years....I'm excluding the League Cup win under Graham.

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uefa cup '84 :)
and pleat was a better tottenham manager than venables that 87 team was the business.

Venables isnt that loved at Tottenham at all btw, he shafted the club for his own financial gain.

And Howe must hate him (being a gooner and all ;))

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Originally Posted by eekers

uefa cup '84 :)
and pleat was a better tottenham manager than venables that 87 team was the business.

Venables isnt that loved at Tottenham at all btw, he shafted the club for his own financial gain.

And Howe must hate him (being a gooner and all ;))

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The Uefa cups not a real trophy :D

yes the uefa cup died in 2000