Jersey Clash - Cork Fined

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Originally Posted by Super Rovers

how can it make sense if cork are fined. bray wore cork's away jerseys occording to the article

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Originally Posted by superfrank

What a joke of a decision. If any club was to be fined it should have been ourselves.

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Originally Posted by Pablo

Its breathtaking really. The FAi are a shambles. and prove it on a weekly basis.

Still it'll buy a few coctails on their jolly up To South Africa

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Did any of you actually read the explanation posted before replying?

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Originally Posted by TommyGaynor

Can we get proof that this rule is actually in the rulebook?

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I think the rulebook is supposed to be on the FAI website now.

Obviously, while it appears Cork were due to be fined under the rules, the FAI should by rights be fined for letting Bray register an away jersey which is so close to their home jersey, but that's not going to happen anytime soon. Also, as Bald Student noted, there's no reason why it can't be decided long in advance which colours clash, and let clubs know about this.

But hey, brand new league...

The rules state:

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13 Club Colours

13.1 Each Participant Club shall register two sets of colours to be used. All jerseys shall be numbered on the back. Goalkeepers must wear colours, which distinguish them from other players and the match officials. Sponsors advertising on team gear must receive the prior approval of the League Director before each season commences. Rules governing sponsorships and team kit are described in Schedule Three Commercial Rules, which must also be adhered to.

13.2 In the event of two Clubs playing in the same colours, the Away Club shall change colours when such Clubs meet in competition. In the event of there still being a colour clash, the Home Club shall change colours to the referee’s satisfaction. In all cases the referee’s decision on the necessity for any Club to change colours shall be final.

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And Cork's away kit is black and yellow, which barring any referee kit or problems telling black from white under floodlights, seals the deal. Cork should have gotten fined under the rules. But Bray still shouldn't have been allowed register such a similar away kit.

What happened when Rovers played in Cork? Their kits are the same. Or when Rovers played Bray? All four of their kits are green and white.

Rovers' away is all black, they wore it in Cork and Bray, and as previously mentioned, at home to Bray because Bray's away doesn't solve the clashing problems.

Oh, OK. Colours of football has it as all white.

The FAI should not have let Rovers & Bray register away kits that were so similar to their home strip. But the referees need to be told cop on also. Cork v Galway, in the second game of the season, Cork wore green& white, Galway wore their white away jersey, Richie Winter & his officials had no problem with that. Galway v Pats in April, Galway wore maroon strip Pats, red & white, again Alan Kelly had no problem with this. Lasf friday Galway had to wear white away strip & Pats their 'Barcelona' away strip. The reason, the ref decided that both Pats strips clashed with Galways home kit. The referee? A certain Mr Alan Kelly who had no problem with a colour clash in April!!!!

The refs would never survive in the GAA

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Originally Posted by noby

I tend to agree with Tommy here. Whatever about what happened in Cork, surely there must be something done at the start of the season to ensure a clubs away colours are sufficiently different to their home colours.

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Bray's away kit is sufficiently different. Its just that both are similar to corks. Which has very little to do with them.

Pats away kit is COMPLETELY different to home but Galway were made wear their away kit. No big deal. Unless a club is looking to be awkward

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Bray's away kit is sufficiently different. Its just that both are similar to corks. Which has very little to do with them.

Pats away kit is COMPLETELY different to home but Galway were made wear their away kit. No big deal. Unless a club is looking to be awkward

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It's not sufficiently different to the home kits of either of the two clubs they'd need to wear it against!

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Originally Posted by Demoshield

The FAI should not have let Rovers & Bray register away kits that were so similar to their home strip. But the referees need to be told cop on also. Cork v Galway, in the second game of the season, Cork wore green& white, Galway wore their white away jersey, Richie Winter & his officials had no problem with that. Galway v Pats in April, Galway wore maroon strip Pats, red & white, again Alan Kelly had no problem with this. Lasf friday Galway had to wear white away strip & Pats their 'Barcelona' away strip. The reason, the ref decided that both Pats strips clashed with Galways home kit. The referee? A certain Mr Alan Kelly who had no problem with a colour clash in April!!!!

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City might not have changed, but theres more at fault for that.

If at the start of the season you had to pick out clubs that might have these problems, then Rovers and Bray would be two of them for me. To let them register those away kits so similar is madness, and fingers shoe be pointed.














Good administration will avoid this happening ....... Bad administration wont.

On the Cork and Galway game that demoshield mentioned, it was actually a small bit confusing, I don't know why Galway didn't wear maroon, as they did a few weeks ago

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Why? You went to the game with both your kits. It was Cork who refused to budge

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Mt problem with it is that, one, the rule is stupid and, two, in the eyes of the ref Bray were the guilty party by not bringing a "sufficient" jersey.

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Did any of you actually read the explanation posted before replying?

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Yes and I feel the rule is very poor. I'll restate it. The ref clearly saw the jersey situation as Bray's problem : our jersey wasn't up to his very high standards and, whilst I feel he's wrong there, the ref's decision is final and you get on with it.

The ref was given a workable solution, which he (it appears) tried to invoke - namely, make Cork play in away kit. They refused, they got fined. Bray were being awkward by not having a proper away kit; Cork were breaking the rules by not wearing theirs. There's the difference. The jersey situation was as much Cork's fault as Bray's in the ref's view - not just Bray's fault as you say - and he tried to get them to change too, but they refused.

Bray shouldn't have been allowed register the white away top in the first place, but in the context of this one game and the resulting fine, that's neither here nor there.

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Originally Posted by TommyGaynor

It's not sufficiently different to the home kits of either of the two clubs they'd need to wear it against!

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Or Cork's jersey is too similar to both of Bray's kits. And don't even start on "well they're our club colours", as we've all seen Cork wear white, red and green seperately and together as home colours....

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Or Cork's jersey is too similar to both of Bray's kits. And don't even start on "well they're our club colours", as we've all seen Cork wear white, red and green seperately and together as home colours....

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Regardless of history (though while we're on the subject, within the past ten years Bray have had white, green and striped home jerseys), Cork were the home team and therefore the visitors should have had a kit that would not have resulted in a clash. By the same token I wouldn't expect Cork to travel to Bray and only have kits that would force Bray to change. Bray had this problem away to Rovers too

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Bray's away kit is sufficiently different.

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I don't tend to agree. Not having a go at Bray here, specifically, but if your home jersey is a combination of two colours (50/50 as opposed to trim), then if one of those two colours is your away jersey, then I don't think they're sufficiently different.

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I don't tend to agree.

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Foot.ie summed up nicely in one sentence there. :)

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Originally Posted by Demoshield

The FAI should not have let Rovers & Bray register away kits that were so similar to their home strip.

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Eh, our away kit is all black, i fail to see how thats even vaguely similar to green & white hoops, white shorts & white socks!? You'd need some kit to clash with both of those!! :)

Koh

FS, will some of you grow up ! some of the posts in this thread are just childish.

Why all of a sudden is clashing jerseys such a BIG problem this season ? We have had the same home and away gear for the last number of years and not once has there been a problem up until this season. Our home and away jerseys are very different and can be easily distuingished from each other. As i said, why all the fuss this season when in all other season there has not been a problem what so ever.

Also, As the rules state, that if the 2 sets of jeresys clash then the home side must wear there away jersey. These are the ruls, Cork unsportingly refused and were then fined for this. End of.

In fairness, Bray brought their two kits down.
The ref decided that both clashed with our home jersey.
The rules are quite clear, we should have worn our away strip.
We didn't.
We deserve the fine.

It's comical though that in the same week Rico gives out about fans causing the club to be fined €100 for lighting a flare, the club themkselves incur a fine ten times as large through their own stupidity/stubborness/superstition.

Whether the rule is daft or not is irrelevant.