Shur if you're to be believed I'm sure he has far more important things to be doing than posting on an internet forumQuote:
Originally Posted by PinBallWizard
I mean, sure, he could come on with bull$hit rumours I suppose............ :rolleyes:
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Shur if you're to be believed I'm sure he has far more important things to be doing than posting on an internet forumQuote:
Originally Posted by PinBallWizard
I mean, sure, he could come on with bull$hit rumours I suppose............ :rolleyes:
Yes, there are problems at the club.
There seem to be financial pressures and organisational pressures.
But whatever the situation, most fans are content to go along to the matches (or not!), maybe discuss/moan about the club in the pub or online, and that's it!
While I only expect a minority to have any serious interest in the actual running of the club, it is disappointing to see that the level of discussion here rarely gets above calling for certain people to be sacked and replaced by people who occupied certain positions in past incarnations of the club! If those who ran the club in the past were so great, how come we find ourselves where we are now?!!? There are very few actual concrete suggestions emanating from this forum!
I have nothing against people who were previously involved being involved in the current setup. Mistakes were made in the past, but valuable lessons can be learnt from those mistakes. As long as those people have learnt the right lessons from their experiences and are motivated for the right reasons, they can play a very useful role in the potential success of the current club.
While luck can sometimes help you get over organisational problems in the short term, eventually those problems will be exposed. The debacle over the table quiz is one small example of this. Should it emerge that there are bigger financial problems, that would be a more significant indication of underlying organisational problems.
I don't believe there is anyone involved in the club at the moment who isn't capable of doing a very good job. But no organisation can function as a small group of individuals. It must work as a cohesive unit with a clear plan and focus. It must also have enough people involved to spread the workload, with everyone properly motivated and pulling their weight. If those involved are carrying too heavy a workload the cumulative effect of such pressure/stress can over time lead to poor decision making.
While I am disappointed with the performance of certain people in the club, I think their shortcomings are more due to a lack of direction rather than them being incapable. To an extent, this is perfectly understandable given the conditions: a new club has been formed, with most of the people involved new to their respective roles.
I do think that a little more clear direction would begin to help this situation.
This is Ger Finnin's job. But in order to do so more effectively, I think he probably needs to be relieved of some of the duties he currently carries out.
The only thing that really disappoints me at the moment is the lack of say the supporters have in the running of the club. The openness that I had hoped for is not quite there. While there is a position on the board for a non-voting supporters' rep, from what I can gather, in practice the rest of the board seem to regard this as a discretionary position when it comes to holding meetings.
The surest way of building the club is through the current cohort of regular supporters. While positive media coverage can help build up a buzz around the club, most of this will go over people's heads unless it is accompanied by word of mouth from actual real life fans who have actually witnessed a real live match!
In my opinion, the direct involvement of supporters in the running of the club is the surest path to success.
Some examples:
Although the Supporters' Club has made some progress this year, it too has some way to go to get properly organised. But it's on the right path.
- It is the current fans who will recruit new fans to the cause of Limerick 37 on the pitch.
- A little market research among supporters would yield information that could inform a targetted advertising/sponsorship campaign.
Even if it doesn't own any shares, a well organised Supporters' Club can (and always should) wield great influence within the club.
After all, without the fans the club is an empty shell...
(Wow, that took so long, I see everyone else has now gone to bed... :eek: I think I'll follow suit!)
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Fair Play!! Well said :ball:
No longer able to post here.Quote:
Originally Posted by PinBallWizard
on all of foot.ie or just this thread??Quote:
Originally Posted by sadloserkid
On everything, hes gone over to that other eircom league forum i believe (forget the name) but hes the only Limerick fella on it so far:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Jofspring
He told me on the forum of our fantasy league thingy.
From this....
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Either Danny is a very very good bargainer, or L37 got ripped off in their development work in the jacks
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Originally Posted by Lim till i die
to this.....
You bought shares, hooray for youQuote:
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why so diplomatic Joe? Get off the fence.Either you want these guys in or out. I bought shares in this ****ing thing.
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Every single person I talk to at matches and in the pub later thinks finnin is a spoofer that would put roddy collins to shame,.
Name one instance of trouble this year?? Have you any idea how much outside security would cost?? I say fairplay to himQuote:
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And don't get me started on our 'head of security' that behaves like a back street doorman.
I reckon he bought slightly more shares than you.Quote:
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Why is he responsible for making decisions in the club?
And your way of getting an explanation is to spread scurrilous muck all over a website..........Quote:
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EAs a shareholder do I not have the right to an explanation as to what the hell is going on?
Why don't you just approach the "back street doorman" or the "spoofer" in person??
Sure do. In the Shed every single game, a real fan. Not the type to go in for spreading stuff on the internetQuote:
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Aah.....our head of security,does anyone remember him from last season,in the shed
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You certainly changed your tune....a bit two-faced no??
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Originally Posted by Jofspring
Hes banned from the whole site!!
jesus, how'd he manage to get a full on ban?Quote:
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Not sure but id say a lot of people complained him!! :eek:
Where?!?! :confused:Quote:
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From where you were questioning the role played by D.Hehir in the redevelopment of jackman one minute where you inferred he was responsible for over-pricing, and a short while later are praising him to the hilt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lim till i die
As in.....
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Either Danny is a very very good bargainer, or L37 got ripped off in their development work in the jacks
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Originally Posted by Lim till i die
Eh, isn't Darren Hehir involved in the building trade??
The point I was making (sigh) was that if Mr. Soap had an accusation to make he should just come out and make it rather than dealing in inuendo. See when you deal in inuendo you get people like your good self unable to grasp what you're on aboutQuote:
Originally Posted by PinBallWizard
Not sure I can make it any simpler for you :rolleyes:
Mr.Soap wasn't making any accusations through innuendo. Mr Soap was merely stating that either Danny Drew was very very frugal in his construction dealings or that perhaps L37 were over charged for the work they did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lim till i die
See when you read innuendo into everything, good people like yourself become slightly paranoid...;)
The only reason I'm paranoid is because they're all after me :)Quote:
Originally Posted by joeSoap