I just want to understand this. Is their any conceivable Irish team you would support. What would have to change, the team, manager, fans, FAI?
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It's down to patriotism of course. Put it this way, if you grew up in my family it'd even be impossible not to look forward to the cricket match on Friday. :) If the world wasn't watching it probably wouldn't mean anything to me though.
Thast absolute rubbish. The Cyprus and San Marino performances happened long before Keane had a chance to open his mouth so don't belittle the opinions of others with a comment as weak as that. I'm well capable of making my own mind up from what I see on the pitch and what I've seen on the pitch has been p1ss poor. I'd imagine the vast majority on here formed their opinions that way too.
My point on Roy Keane's objectivity or lack of it relates to his various opinions on David Connoll's selection, Cork biases, and such drivel.
Nobody would disagree that the performances on the pitch have been poor; however I say again - the criticism of Staunton has been over the top. Give a man a fair chance.
The only criticism I'm aware of thats been over the top is the stuff in the rags and its your own fault if you read them. Keane can say what he likes, I agree with some it and I think some of its muck. But you can't just say that peoples opinions are formed by what Keane says just because they don't rate Stan. I don't rate Stan, I think he's clueless, I see no consistency or idea in what he's doing, but I formed those opinions on going to games and watching the San Marino and Cyprus debacle not because Keane told me so, as far as I'm aware Keane had his mouth firmly shut at that point.
And for the record I find it a bit funny that all this warranted criticism is being compared to the carry on of our neighbours across the water. Well what I find more familiar is the blind optimism of a few on here that appears to be coming from very little evidence, something our English friends are even more adept at.
My point is that if Bohs found themselves in that position, which we did last year, I'd be in a position to try and change it. Believe me, a lot of pressure was put on the board vis a vis the Farrelly situation. We had that outlet. With Ireland and the FAI you criticise and you are censored.
There may be a grain of truth in that. I'll say by and large you are wrong because particularly when I was a young 'un and a teen the national team certainly did mean a lot to me. What is important to me now though is that the national team represents the sporting values I hold dear and that the players I am watching are guys who I have seen playing at club level on a regular basis, be they current ELOI players or players who have learned their trade in the ELOI. Players like Doyle and Ward. A team made up of players like that I could be passionate about no matter what the results were like, once they went out and gave their all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie
A win of course... crazy to say otherwise... just a question for anyone at the last game, what songs are people singing in the crowd these days? Watching it on tele there was little or no atmosephere at the last match at all (apart from the Mexican wave)! Do people still sing the traditional Ole Ole Ole... Or are there any songs being sang at all?
Give it a lash Jack
i am supporting ireland. so its a yes.
I'll sit on the fence and hope for a draw :D
yes I want Ireland to win ...
I'm hoping for a win naturally enough, partly because I'm excited by the team Stan has chosen (can't believe I've just said that) but also because I don't think a loss would mean we'd see the back of Stan or Delaney, unless it's a particularly embarassing one.